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zalive
Hall of Fame
Thanks guys. This all sounds really good, better than I expected.
zalive
Hall of Fame
Useful thing for regulating launch angle is tension. Tried stringing crosses tighter than mains? It provides a lower launch angle, at the cost of some spin. If you usually string mains tighter even tension on mains and crosses does some job too. And if you like ample power, keep the mains tension low. Say, 21/22 kg. As for string, I like SPPP (Poly Plasma). Gives a bit higher power than a usual modern poly with some great playability.
SpinToWin
Talk Tennis Guru
Backhanded Compliment
Legend
I haven't used the TC97 but Im pretty sure the IGMP just doesnt have the same spin potential as a TC97 16x19 I also used the YTPrestige Pro for windy days and would have used it all the time but it just was a bit stiff for my taste. TC95 solved that... I just love how heavy even a simple rally ball can be.
Something like yonex poly tour pro will have a little more power than RSlyon. In fact I really loved YPTP crossed with scorpion on my old Pacific frame. Your cross will effect power a bit if you want to get more lively a response.
Georgo
New User
RS Lyon at 57/57lbs (26/26Kg) in the TC95 16x19. Plenty of power and spin.
DJ-
Hall of Fame
Tried full bed origin ? I have used it as a cross with poly mains and it plays very powerful..... You could even try hyper G m origin X
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
I'll check it out. Thanks. Is that your starting tension or your actual court tension?
zalive
Hall of Fame
I'm more a control player than a power player, so I typically put a string bed in the middle ground of power and control. Currently I use even tension on both mains and crosses on most setups. I use round profile strings except when on 18x20 mains, on which even the roughest triangle shaped polys play with good predictability. Tension depends on a setup and it's specs, currently using 21/21 kg on Head 18x20 MP's, 25/25 kg on 16x15 PS95s, and in between tensions for 16x19 MP's. As for crosses tighter than mains, I used to do this when using a shaped poly on mains on a 16x19 racquet. It helped control a lot, you can significantly lower the launch angle down. Usually 1 kg tighter on crosses should do the trick, though few times I've used 2 kg tighter crosses when using shaped poly mains.
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Yes but is that your stringing tension or your actual on-court tension? Is that what you're setting the machine at, or what you let it settle to?
zalive
Hall of Fame
Oh, it's stringing tension. IDK other details, I don't string myself, I guess it's just a regular stringing on a big Babolat machine...
Tennisist
Professional
Prestige MP is much lower in power and much lower in spin. Its directional and depth control is about the same as TC97. The only place it is better are touch shots.
Prestige Pro -- is an entirely different matter. It is slightly above TC97 in power, much higher in manoeuvrability, and much easier to generate spin with. Easier to change directions, and easier at the net.
Because of speed, it also produces much better serves for me: more variety and speed.
michael valek
Hall of Fame
Also much stiffer.
1990's Graphite
Hall of Fame
saleem
Semi-Pro
try weisscannon scorpion
Old Skool Graphite
Semi-Pro
Random leftover pics...
Ok, thanks (I think!) maybe I should have gone with the pro but I do prefer an 18x20. Mainly play doubles so touch, feel and volleys are more important attributes in a racket than power.
I had them both, the tc95 in the 63 RA...
Very different frames, not an easy comparison
TC95 better on serves, more plowthrough, more spin (not much more)
Forgiveness, sweetspot, baseline power, turning defense to offense, all that the prince works better.
But the plowthrough... And prince sure makes you sweat less, because of the lower swingweight...
If I was to go tc95 again, I would go 16x19...
If I was to do a more direct comparison, I think maybe tc97 18x20 would feel more like txt 100p...
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Thanks a lot.
Old Skool Graphite
Semi-Pro
Just finished leading my TC90 up and now it feels like home. At 14 ounces this thing rivals the feel of a Prestige Classic 600 or a Pro Staff 85.
I used 12 Sampras power-strips at 3 and 9 (1.5 oz.) and counter-balanced with 0.3 oz. of lead in the handle as well as a Wilson leather grip and two Pro Overgrips.
Compared to a classic...
I used 12 Sampras power-strips at 3 and 9 (1.5 oz.) and counter-balanced with 0.3 oz. of lead in the handle as well as a Wilson leather grip and two Pro Overgrips.
Compared to a classic...
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Alexandre_Doro
New User
Whats the average TC95 63RA (16x19) unstrung SW?
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joohan
Guest
Good luck getting that number.)
topspn
Legend
Hard to say what the average is but mine is 302 and 303
SideSpinSliceIsNice
Rookie
Let's talk TC97s: 16x19 vs 18x20? Besides the average differences between the two patterns is there anything that's really stuck out to you guys? Are there big differences in feel between the two? I've only ever used the 16x19 and am interested in the 18x20. I love my TC95s but I'm still considering switching over to the box beam as I'm starting to realize how much I miss the "old school" feel and added punch in slices and volleys where the 95 is a little flaky. Imo the TC97 has much better feel than the 95 although the 95 is still better feeling than 99% of the commercial racquet market today. The reason it's my main stick right now is because of the pop I get from groundies and serves in case you're wondering why I'm not rocking 97s already. I remember the 97 16x19 to have this unique feel where I could feel the strings snap back upon contact with the ball, can anyone confirm this with the 18x20?
Alexandre_Doro
New User
Subaruvich
Semi-Pro
I have/had one with rare unstrung SW291, and then four SW300 and one SW304.
If you buy 2 rackets at the same time, they will have the same swingweights or it is random?
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Mid or MP?Just finished leading my TC90 up and now it feels like home. At 14 ounces this thing rivals the feel of a Prestige Classic 600 or a Pro Staff 85.
I used 12 Sampras power-strips at 3 and 9 (1.5 oz.) and counter-balanced with 0.3 oz. of lead in the handle as well as a Wilson leather grip and two Pro Overgrips.
Compared to a classic...
Georgo
New User
The SW on mines where 297 unstrung.
Georgo
New User
I have asked Paul for the same SW, the delivery will take a bit longer as he waits for the right ones to pick from the batches to match.
Subaruvich
Semi-Pro
The same mas o menos. Just ask Paul or leave the note to match the frames.
topspn
Legend
Very small amount of lead 3&9 so strung SW ~ 333 and i string 1.25mm poly with a #33 rubber band for dampener
topspn
Legend
Again, I can’t tell you an average. I asked for my SW so able to get close to my targets. Managed to get TC100 63RA with SW just under 305. I think you’d be hard pressed to get SW for either TC100/TC95 under 295. I think lowish SW is around what I got.
4-string
Professional
After a few weeks playing the TC95 (but not exclusively) I must say that I like it alot. I struggle a little bit on second serves for some reason, but other than that it feels and plays great. Flat first serves are just ridiculous!
I am positive that I got the incorrect handle shape though. I ordered B, but this has to be A. I strung up a Head racquet last week, the shapes felt identical and much more rectangular than my Wilsons.
In any case, this one is a keeper for the build quality alone. It plays great too, so a no brainer really.
I am positive that I got the incorrect handle shape though. I ordered B, but this has to be A. I strung up a Head racquet last week, the shapes felt identical and much more rectangular than my Wilsons.
In any case, this one is a keeper for the build quality alone. It plays great too, so a no brainer really.
zalive
Hall of Fame
So, par with TC95 63 RA? I expected a bit lower average SW because of a bigger head size...yet if it's about there no complaint as it's expected that a 100'' will have some more power, being more a tweener type racquet.
So logically just like on TC95, stiffer option has a lower average SW too...
Old Skool Graphite
Semi-Pro
It's the TC90 which is one of the few mids still available from ANY company.
Old Skool Graphite
Semi-Pro
That's the IG Prestige Mid, one of the best feeling frames I've ever used. I had it weighted to 13.2 oz. and it did everything well. So I think the Midplus version would be great especially when customized to your spec. But I've never actually used one.
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Thanks. Received my two mp's today. Lovely looking frames. Will add 3g at 3/9 in the first instance and maybe a leather grip. It will be interesting to compare to my TC97.
topspn
Legend
Again, can't speak of averages just I got what I asked for SW wise in both TC95 and 100. My TC95s are 302, 303 and my 100 also 303. Any of the 70RA will generally be lower in SW then the 63RA frames
zalive
Hall of Fame
Don't worry, I understood. Just trying to guesstimate loud what's going on.
Perhaps a perfect thing would be to have a TC98 63 RA made on TC95/TC100 63 RA design principles, as a half way between the two, having precision somewhere in between, I really appreciate this head size. Would be easier. Back then I had to wait to get the finances right, but in the meantime I quit the idea of getting an 18x20 Angell because...my strokes are really made on open pattern racquets and it seems I bump into the wall of making the most out of 18x20 racquets, for me it's like benefits I can harvest cannot outweight the shortcomings. And since TC95 63 RA might be too hard a cookie for me...I guess it will be TC100 63 RA for me then.
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