J011yroger
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Then why does it have the longest season?
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Motives other than winning are clearly at work.
That team name is tame compared to some of the team names I've played with.
We don't get to name our team.Most mixed leagues have the most lewd names.
We don't get to name our team.
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Then you are missing out on most the fun of mixed doubles.
It's naturally going to be a larger league just because its men and women...numbers, but it is generally the least liked by men because it's more work in many cases.Then why does it have the longest season?
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In the tennis world out here, mixed is by far the most fun. Especially 8.0. There is no greater satisfaction on a tennis court than when your 4.5/3.5 team works together in beautiful harmony to out-strategize the opponent.
Legitimized sandbagging!This is the problem with mixed. A 4.5 and a 3.5 have no business being a pair.
I think if you like the opposite sex, and can appreciate their abilities, it can be quite exhilarating, satisfying and could lead to some enjoyable extra-curricular activities.
In the tennis world out here, mixed is by far the most fun. Especially 8.0. There is no greater satisfaction on a tennis court than when your 4.5/3.5 team works together in beautiful harmony to out-strategize the opponent.
I agree with what you are saying to a degree. If you don't like the opposite sex or feel uncomfortable with the playing styles of the other gender then don't play mixed. Both genders can be equally unpleasant on the court so it is important to remember that one unpleasant person does not represent the whole gender.
I have played quite a bit of mixed at various levels. My preferred partner is a man who does not try to "direct" me from the minute we step on the court. I have come across quite a few men who feel the need to instruct and direct women on the tennis court without bothering to observe how they play. (Many do this off the court as well, but lets not get into that discussion. ) Of course I don't mind discussing strategy such as "lets try to lob over the woman and get the guy off the net", or "they are letting balls go through the middle so lets target the middle of the court". But I don't need a male partner who doesn't know me to try to give me a tennis lesson. I know my strengths and weaknesses. For example, I have a hard time returning 5.0 level men's serves because I rarely face them. It doesn't help me to have some random male partner tell me to how to return the serve. I have to figure out what works for me and what doesn't. Once I get a feel for the serve I can usually block or slice it back and keep it really low.....which is often not a bad return for doubles.
Step up and take it early. [emoji1] [emoji1] [emoji2]What about when you are a 5.0 guy and the opposing 5.0 guy aces your 4.0 partner with a 115mph serve on the line that hits the side curtain 5' up and she turns to you and says "how do I return that?"
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Say those three words that men have such a hard time saying. "I don't know." Actually, your answer should depend on your partner and how much you have observed about their level of play. All 4.0 women are not the same. Male players tend to lump all women into one category and fail to recognize the ones who can actually step in and block it back and the ones who are probably not going to be able to do that. There is a vast difference between a 4.0 women who played other sports and a 4.0 woman who never played a sport and took up tennis very late in life.What about when you are a 5.0 guy and the opposing 5.0 guy aces your 4.0 partner with a 115mph serve on the line that hits the side curtain 5' up and she turns to you and says "how do I return that?"
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Say those three words that men have such a hard time saying. "I don't know." Actually, your answer should depend on your partner and how much you have observed about their level of play. All 4.0 women are not the same. Male players tend to lump all women into one category and fail to recognize the ones who can actually step in and block it back and the ones who are probably not going to be able to do that. There is a vast difference between a 4.0 women who played other sports and a 4.0 woman who never played a sport and took up tennis very late in life.
Say those three words that men have such a hard time saying. "I don't know." Actually, your answer should depend on your partner and how much you have observed about their level of play. All 4.0 women are not the same. Male players tend to lump all women into one category and fail to recognize the ones who can actually step in and block it back and the ones who are probably not going to be able to do that. There is a vast difference between a 4.0 women who played other sports and a 4.0 woman who never played a sport and took up tennis very late in life.
This is the problem with mixed. A 4.5 and a 3.5 have no business being a pair.
Where I am the pre match instructions from the 4.5 to the 3.5 (woman) are universal: stay in the alley.
Then why does it have the longest season?
I coach my 3.5 mixed partner to crowd the center line, standing 3 feet from the net, and go after any ball she can reach without backing up. You'd be surprised how easy it is for a 3.5 gal to hit loads winners from there and make life easy for her partner and difficult for the opponents. Granted, some of those winners are shanks off the frame, but winners nonetheless.It's funny because the only time I've been frustrated by a female partner was when I was in the ad court and the opponent hit a soft ball down the middle I was coming up to hit the forehand putaway. My female partner reached over and tried to hit a stab volley and netted it. She looked back and said "oops I guess middle balls should go to the FH." It was a pro set and we were at 7-7 and this was game point. It went to deuce, we lost the game, then the next game. And all I can think is "who dives for a weak middle ball with their BH when they have a better player right behind them with a FH" So the stay in the alley certainly rang true for that moment. Hell I even know to stay in the alley when I'm playing with a superior men's partner.
I coach my 3.5 mixed partner to crowd the center line, standing 3 feet from the net, and go after any ball she can reach without backing up. You'd be surprised how easy it is for a 3.5 gal to hit loads winners from there and make life easy for her partner and difficult for the opponents. Granted, some of those winners are shanks off the frame, but winners nonetheless.
I coach my 3.5 mixed partner to crowd the center line, standing 3 feet from the net, and go after any ball she can reach without backing up. You'd be surprised how easy it is for a 3.5 gal to hit loads winners from there and make life easy for her partner and difficult for the opponents. Granted, some of those winners are shanks off the frame, but winners nonetheless.
I've played 8.0, 9.0, and 10.0 Mixed. 10.0 is by far the best as most of the women are doods, so they can handle pace and spin. They also move with their parter more cohesively. 9.0 is tolerable so long as you don't take it too seriously. It's just a different game. It's sort of slower and most of the women, in my experience, merely cover their half of the court. I actually like playing the 5.0/4.0 (women/men) combos the best. But, it's just an odd way of playing doubles.
7.0 is unbearable.
This seems to be the underlying reason to gather. I didn't even get to play last match because opponents defaulted. But I had my two beers, pizza, chips and dips...More opportunities to drink and be merry.
I was watching an 8.0 mixed match. There seemed to be a 5.0M/3.0F combo Vs a 4.0M/3.5F combo. The one thing that we picked up on in the viewing area was the 3+ service tosses of the 3.0F. I think the 4.0M got in a work out just jumping forward with a split step on each toss. She also frequently foot faulted by a foot when her toss was "good." We had more fun counting tosses and foot faults than anything else.I'd say in general, poorly balanced mixed is unbearable. These 5.0 men playing with 3.0 women in 8.0 is the worst thing to watch.
I think mixed should remain in the realms of the 3.0-4.0 players personally. It's a different game when you throw 4.5+ men into the mix. Rec intermediates aren't hitting with violent intentions.
I play 7.0 mixed all the time with my wife and have plenty of good fun matches.
1) Don't take it too seriously
2) have beers after and get to know the other couple
3) be complimetary and polite
I'd hardly say it's unbearable if everyone is an intermediate player. Throw one advanced player into the mix and it gets unfun fast.
I'd say in general, poorly balanced mixed is unbearable. These 5.0 men playing with 3.0 women in 8.0 is the worst thing to watch.
I was watching an 8.0 mixed match. There seemed to be a 5.0M/3.0F combo Vs a 4.0M/3.5F combo. The one thing that we picked up on in the viewing area was the 3+ service tosses of the 3.0F. I think the 4.0M got in a work out just jumping forward with a split step on each toss. She also frequently foot faulted by a foot when her toss was "good." We had more fun counting tosses and foot faults than anything else.
The 4.0M/4.0F team was pretty exciting to watch.
On the line is out.What about when you are a 5.0 guy and the opposing 5.0 guy aces your 4.0 partner with a 115mph serve on the line that hits the side curtain 5' up and she turns to you and says "how do I return that?"
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On the line is out.What about when you are a 5.0 guy and the opposing 5.0 guy aces your 4.0 partner with a 115mph serve on the line that hits the side curtain 5' up and she turns to you and says "how do I return that?"
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A 5.0 and a 3.0 can't play together in 8.0.
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USTA thing? I'm from Canada where rankings are far more loosely applied.