Kyrgios withdraws from French Open

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Disappointing.

Kyrgios vs Raonic Wimbledon final confirmed


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cc0509

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Not surprised. The signs were there.

Who had him slotted in to win the AO 2018? BeatlesFan? Djokovic is more likely to win 10 more slams before Kyrgios wins one.

The guy's injury patterns and "I don't really give a crap" attitude are entrenched now it seems, sadly.
 

vex

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You know how I know Kyrgios sucks? Every time the inevitable Nick Kyrgios HYPE thread appears I have to go back and look up how to spell his name correctly cause he's irrelevant 95% of the season.
 

AiRFederer

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Not surprised. The signs were there.

Who had him slotted in to win the AO 2018? BeatlesFan? Djokovic is more likely to win 10 more slams before Kyrgios wins one.

The guy's injury patterns and "I don't really give a crap" attitude are entrenched now it seems, sadly.
Overexaggeration but I get you. Hopefully he turns it around.
 

cc0509

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Overexaggeration but I get you. Hopefully he turns it around.

Don't count on it, man. Attitude and work ethic are everything in this sport and players either exhibit that pattern from a young age or they don't. The guy doesn't even have a regular coach.

He'll probably be like a Monfils-type player, i.e. able to dazzle from time to time. I like his game and I hope you're right but I'd be lying if I said I think he will turn it around.
 

vex

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Don't count on it, man. Attitude and work ethic are everything in this sport and players either exhibit that pattern from a young age or they don't. The guy doesn't even have a regular coach.

He'll probably be like a Monfils-type player, i.e. able to dazzle from time to time. I like his game and I hope you're right but I'd be lying if I said I think he will turn it around.
Agreed. Gimme a hungry player like Goffin. He'll have a better career than a talented guy with no passion or work ethic.
 

Aussie Darcy

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Match had so much potential.

Who does Tomic play now?
This is very odd. Prajnesh Gunneswaran, was going to be the eighth lucky loser who would’ve played Tomic but he has already left Paris for the €64k Vicenza challenger in Italy where he’s in the draw so he won’t be eligible to play.

The line is now blank for now where Kyrgios withdrew. Tomic currently has no opponent. Bizarre scenes.

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https://twitter.com/benrothenberg/status/1000724953682018304?s=21
 
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This is very odd. Prajnesh Gunneswaran, was going to be the eighth lucky loser who would’ve played Tomic but he has already left Paris for the €64k Vicenza challenger in Italy where he’s in the draw so he won’t be eligible to play.

The line is now blank for now where Kyrgios withdrew. Tomic currently has no opponent. Bizarre scenes.

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https://twitter.com/benrothenberg/status/1000724953682018304?s=21
What a mess this tournament is, let’s just give Rafa the trophy already and get the plane ready for Stuttgart.
 

haqq777

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This is very odd. Prajnesh Gunneswaran, was going to be the eighth lucky loser who would’ve played Tomic but he has already left Paris for the €64k Vicenza challenger in Italy where he’s in the draw so he won’t be eligible to play.

The line is now blank for now where Kyrgios withdrew. Tomic currently has no opponent. Bizarre scenes.

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https://twitter.com/benrothenberg/status/1000724953682018304?s=21
Bizarre indeed. One of the tweets mention that Marco Trungelliti will be LL and he is already on his way from Barcelona to sign up. Not sure how authentic the news is though. If he had signed up for another tournament he can't withdraw to enter another tournament the same week, as per my understanding.

https://twitter.com/dannymiche/status/1000731440068382720?s=19
 

Aussie Darcy

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Bizarre indeed. One of the tweets mention that Marco Trungelliti will be LL and he is already on his way from Barcelona to sign up. Not sure how authentic the news is though. If he had signed up for another tournament he can't withdraw to enter another tournament the same week, as per my understanding.

https://twitter.com/dannymiche/status/1000731440068382720?s=19
Seems to be true. Trungelliti has to drive 8 eights to get to Paris and he’s on at 11am tomorrow. If Tomic manages to lose that one....
 

True Fanerer

G.O.A.T.
Kyrgios says he's pain free and this is a preventive measure. He hasn't played for six weeks and let's be honest, his chances on grass are much better anyway.
 

D.Nalby12

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A tank was expected outcome here. But is surprising the tank happened even before match started.

Kyrgios - TankGoat.

Tomic must work hard and wait for his Time.
 

Goosehead

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This is very odd. Prajnesh Gunneswaran, was going to be the eighth lucky loser who would’ve played Tomic but he has already left Paris for the €64k Vicenza challenger in Italy where he’s in the draw so he won’t be eligible to play.

The line is now blank for now where Kyrgios withdrew. Tomic currently has no opponent. Bizarre scenes.

DeNJR1qXkAAdxBa.jpg


https://twitter.com/benrothenberg/status/1000724953682018304?s=21
bjorn borg should be drafted in.;) he can play tomic. payback for the itf/fo injustice of '82.:D
 

AiRFederer

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Don't count on it, man. Attitude and work ethic are everything in this sport and players either exhibit that pattern from a young age or they don't. The guy doesn't even have a regular coach.

He'll probably be like a Monfils-type player, i.e. able to dazzle from time to time. I like his game and I hope you're right but I'd be lying if I said I think he will turn it around.
Not throwing in the towel on him. He shouldve beat Dmitrov in Australia but he showed some fight in that tournament. He was never going to do damage on clay anyway, his freaking movement sucks for a top player.

If he doesnt make noise by AO2019, then Im done as well.

This is why as much as Zverev's game is bland to me, I cant really hate on the dude who's putting on the work so far.
 

Badabing888

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How does this not surprise me?

Seriously when they announced someone from the Tomic v Kyrgios match had withdrawn my thoughts were it was Nick before it was Bernie.
 

Backspin1183

Talk Tennis Guru
I guess he is scared of humiliation by great tomic... Good strategy.

I think Tomic would have won even if they'd played. Nick hasn't been healthy of late and Tomic has come through 3 qualifying rounds and was the better prepared player.

Also, I feel like we are going to see more first round withdrawals in Slams, in light of the new rule to punish those that come unfit and retire in round 1 match.
 

reaper

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Surely you can't withdraw from a tennis match against Tomic until the very last moment. How did he know Tomic wasn't going to forfeit or tank?
 

West Coast Ace

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Not surprised. The signs were there.
And when his gf lost.... no doubt quick beach time plans were made.

Not a fan of the extreme FH grip he and many other younger players use. Wonder if that with the unforgiving poly strings are responsible for a lot of the wrist/elbow/shoulder issues.

Hope he’s able to play the grass season. And tries.
 

Mainad

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Well that sucks. No Tomic v Kyrgios match up.

Kyrgios just won the doubles in Lyon which he played with Sock so he could test his elbow. Guess he isn’t ready.

This will come as a blow to Bernie. It won't be as convincing to tank to a Lucky Loser as it would have been to Nick. Guess he'll have to resort to blaming the heat and pull a sickie! ;)
 
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Jimbud

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Ahhhhh, Nikolas.
I dunno what to think, how much of his absence is injury, and how much is some kind of mental issues/performance anxiety (or whatever)

I get this feeling he just can't face coming back and losing just yet.
Unbelievable. Feels like this guy never plays. Given that he admits he doesn’t really like being on the tour, I can’t help but feel like he searches for a reason not to play before every tournament
 
It do be like this sometimes.
Niko plays infrequently, but when he does, he might play great at times. He shows up when he shows up. He works with a purpose. He is kind to the underprivileged.
He wants structure and mentorship, but he does not work hard consistently.
He is interested in many other things, and wants a good tennis-life balance.
He also values making good money.
Oh, and he is a card carrying part-time dbag in terms of appearance as well as actions.
But he is also charismatic, and can save the sport from the imminent rublevzverev hegemony.

He is a nice Grreeekk boy. He is also pan-Asian. And a mama's boy. Ladies like him. Men want to hit forehands and serves like him. Fanbase is yooooj!
Can you imagine the support he would enjoy if he had a one handed backhand? And a haircut which smacked less of dbaggery? And exuded love for the game rather than disdain?
 

yokied

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I dunno what to think, how much of his absence is injury, and how much is some kind of mental issues/performance anxiety (or whatever) ... I get this feeling he just can't face coming back and losing just yet.

For all the hate Zverev gets here at least he delivers some results.

It's all mental. He's humiliated that Zverev has overtaken him and he's panicking. Also, for whatever psychological reason he CBF doing the work required to a) rehab injuries and b) avoid them.
 

Alba Barragan

Professional
It's all mental. He's humiliated that Zverev has overtaken him and he's panicking. Also, for whatever psychological reason he CBF doing the work required to a) rehab injuries and b) avoid them.

I wouldn't say he's humiliated, that's a very strong word. I agree, though, Nick is probably a bit frustrated Zverev overtook him. I remember early last year Nick was asked about Zverev and he was very quick to start talking about their H2H and how he had defeated him 'comfortably' in all their matches until then. That was his first comment when asked to address the progress of Zverev o_O He also said in another interview later that year he wasn't going to deny he was jealous of Z for his recent results and his compromise to train as much, but that he still was leading the H2H so he had the upper hand. They seem to be friends, but there's definitely a little rivalry between the two, which may cause Nick to be a little more nervous to come back and underperform.
 

sredna42

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It's all mental. He's humiliated that Zverev has overtaken him and he's panicking. Also, for whatever psychological reason he CBF doing the work required to a) rehab injuries and b) avoid them.

I wouldn't say humiliated, but I get what you are saying. I don't even know whether zverev even figures much into his "issues", it is more like some performance anxiety he has talked himself into.

I'm hazy on the timeline, cause I don't follow him all that closely this is just my impression, I reckon the loss to Fed at the Laver cup wasn't just a loss, but damaged his circuitry in some way, so he re-grouped, started the year strong, won at Brisbane, but media and his own expectation for a dominant display at the AO was all too much, and he blew yet another circuit board, and he's been fried since then, too scared to play tennis, you can almost see the windows error code scrolling through his eyes.

He doesn't care enough to professionally dispatch low ranked opponents in early rounds, like Fed would, yet implodes completely playing big names in later stages. I don't think he should have lost to dimitrov at all at the AO, nothing against grigor, but he is over-rated for starters and was playing crap at the start of the year to boot. Kyrgios should have swept him from the court, but instead it was all too much, and he system 32'd, and has been on a terminal decline ever since

He's right in one way, if both of them were to be playing well, kyrgios WOULD beat zverev 9 times outta 10 imo, but zverev keeps getting back on his feet and trying, but St.Nikolas doesn't.

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I mean, look at Blake, that guy broke his friggin NECK, then got leprosy or bubonic plague or something, then his dad dropped dead, plus even more I can't remember, yet he STILL gave it his all. Maybe Blake would be a good coach for nick, or even just give him a blood transfusion.
 
Perhaps the ITF should also give some sort of penalty for those that withdraw after the draw has been made.
It is more tolerable at 250/500 but not at the Slams.
Clearly Kyrgios knew beforehand whether he would play or not.
 

Alba Barragan

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I'm hazy on the timeline, cause I don't follow him all that closely this is just my impression, I reckon the loss to Fed at the Laver cup wasn't just a loss, but damaged his circuitry in some way, so he re-grouped, started the year strong, won at Brisbane, but media and his own expectation for a dominant display at the AO was all too much, and he blew yet another circuit board, and he's been fried since then, too scared to play tennis, you can almost see the windows error code scrolling through his eyes.

Totally agree, and I have the same timeline. The thing about the Laver Cup match was that Nick was not only playing great tennis at the time, but he was finally in the environment he always has said he enjoys the most- a team competition. He was playing not just for himself but for the rest of Team World, he had a purpose, he wasn't alone but surrounded by other players who he saw as friends, and he was playing in a very big stage against a legend of the sport, another thing he loves. Everything around him was perfect yet it was still not enough for him to win. Ever since that, I haven't seen him as the same. He kinda gave it a try early this year, but he lost again against Dimitrov at the AO, and that was it. If he was already insecure about putting an effort for fear of losing, after those matches he now seems to be terrified of even trying to do the right things.
 

yokied

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I don't even know whether zverev even figures much into his "issues", it is more like some performance anxiety he has talked himself into ... I'm hazy on the timeline, cause I don't follow him all that closely this is just my impression, I reckon the loss to Fed at the Laver cup wasn't just a loss, but damaged his circuitry in some way, so he re-grouped, started the year strong, won at Brisbane ... I don't think he should have lost to dimitrov at all at the AO
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I mean, look at Blake, that guy broke his friggin NECK, then got leprosy or bubonic plague or something, then his dad dropped dead, plus even more I can't remember, yet he STILL gave it his all. Maybe Blake would be a good coach for nick, or even just give him a blood transfusion.

If you look at the last few singles matches he's played, two of them have been losses to Zverev. Of course he doesn't see Zverev as any competition to himself, yet Zverev is succeeding and getting all the attention. This would be a quiet drip doing all the damage in Nick's head since around this time last year when Zverev won Rome. Two more losses and more Zverev success - definitely damaging IMHO.

And as for that match Vs Dimitrov at the AO, he should definitely have beaten Dimitrov after the way he destroyed Dimitrov in the Brisbane final. That tournament had me and quite a few others thinking he could win the AO. Seems crazy now but he was playing spectacular tennis.

Kyrgios is too lacking in real life experience to see how monumentally stupid he is in his career-related decision making. His family have cloistered him. He's not that different to Tomic in that respect. He'll only take advice from people he "respects", and I doubt Blake is one of those, however good it might be for him to get some perspective from people like Blake, Hewitt etc who climbed the mountain multiple times.

The really crazy thing is he has all the weaponry to succeed on clay too, but it's just too much hard work.
 
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