Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
That's the case for several so called Novak Djokovic fans. Sad lives they must lead.
Crazy Stat: Federer won his first 7 Slam finals
- Thread starter King No1e
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That's the case for several so called Novak Djokovic fans. Sad lives they must lead.
UnderratedSlam
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UnderratedSlam
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Do or do not. There is no try.
I never tried. I simply did. I told the truth.
RF didn´t get worse or have mono in 2008. The others got better.
Or would you argue that Rafa DIDN'T get better in 2008? Djokovic didn't improve?
Phoenix1983
G.O.A.T.
Rafa and Novak Djokovic both improved in 2008, yes. But Federer was also a bit worse than in prior years.
These things are independent of each other.
King No1e
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Where's Hitman when you need him?
RIP
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
That's false. He contracted mono in December 2007 and he didn't quite recover until around March or April of 2008. It's been well-documented by his team and it can be backed up by multiple sources.
Federer had mono during Aussie Open, agent says
Roger Federer couldn't figure out why he felt so sluggish at the start of this season. His doctors eventually gave him an explanation: The world's No. 1 tennis player had mononucleosis.
Roger Federer: 'If the doctors had found out, they would have told me
Roger Federer blames an undetected illness for his slump during the opening months of the season, but now, he tells Paul Newman, he is fully recovered, has a new coach and is ready for battle at the French Open
www.independent.co.uk
The main point of contention is just how much the mono affected him. I think he was over it by April (at the very most) but you can't deny that he did have mono. If you're "telling the truth", as you claim, you might want to consider rephrasing that statement. It's not even debatable at this point as to whether he had the disease.
King No1e
G.O.A.T.
Hewitt and Safin ate Sampras for breakfast at USO, and both made #1 before Federer - Hewitt even stayed there for a whole year (something which even Nadal has never done). Obviously they're not Nadal or Djokovic (or prime Agassi, whom Sampras had to face) but they were all very good players and would've won plenty more Slams if not for the unfathomable level of dominance Federer imposed.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Epic. 
SaintPetros
Hall of Fame
These are unrelated coincidences that have nothing to do with the declines of Federer, Roddick, Hewitt, Agassi, and friends.
SaintPetros
Hall of Fame
Sampras also ate them for breakfast at USO, so let's call a spade a spade.
SaintPetros
Hall of Fame
If I do it, it will be mine, not yours. More importantly you won't grow from this experience. I know you can do this.
In the so-called weak era, Wawrinka could barely crack the top 20. In Djokovic’s era, he won three slams.
Q.E.D.
Indeed. That’s why such great players as Fish, Stepanek, Karlovic, Simon, and Blake progressed so far as to get their only ever wins over Federer in that most pristine year of his. The strong era was born.
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OhYes
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Another time traveller ? Nice to meet you, now go to your corner and S.U.
I’m just pointing out the facts. Feel free to refute them if you’d like. I think you’ll find I’m correct.
Lew II
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Nadal's first 7 slam final opponents:Sets dropped during the tournament:
Philippoussis 7
Safin 9
Roddick 1
Hewitt 0
Roddick 5
Agassi 7
Baghdatis 7
They were really wiping out the field, uh?
Puerta 5
Federer 2
Federer 0
Federer 1
Federer 1
Federer 3
Federer 0
Djokovic's first 7 slam final opponents:
Federer 2
Tsonga 2
Nadal 0
Murray 2
Nadal 3
Nadal 1
Nadal 2
Total sets lost by their first 7 slam final opponents:
Nadal 12
Djokovic 12
Federer 36
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OhYes
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All of slams he has won came against ailing opponent in final. Not saying he wouldn't take 1 or 2 in other case, just stating facts.
What would he do in 2003-2007 is speculation and nothing else.
titoelcolombiano
Legend
I can certainly see your point but Federer proved at Wimbledon recently that he is more than good enough to win a slam even now. I've also got a slightly different take on Djokovic. He is a late bloomer. Rafa also dominated their rivalry early on, but hasn't done so consistently since 2010.
Nadal_Django
Legend
Mind-blowing data.
Just mind-blowing. Federer's competition during his so called peak years, was beyond pathetic.
Phoenix1983
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Mind-blowing data.
...in which case, it is not at all impressive that Nadal consistently defeated Federer to win his first collection of slams.
ibbi
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All whining aside, it's a hell of a record. To find anybody even remotely close you have to go back to the likes of Fred Perry who won his first 4, Jack Crawford who won his first 5, and Tony Trabert, who also won his first (and only) 5 (6 if you include the Pro Slams). Santana won his first 4 in the 60s, and as you point out nobody in the Open Era has made it past 3.
ForehandRF
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Some users here will never bring anything good on this board.All they know it's trolling, hating, whining and all that stuff.The number of real tennis fans is dwarfed by the number of fanatics.
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Nadal also had a period where he won 7 consecutive slam finals, from 08 RG to 11 RG.
Linelicker
Rookie
Nadal met Puerta, then clay monster Federer 3 times a RG, 1 at W and AO, then Berdych and then Soderling.
Beating Federer in Wimbledon and Australia is obviously a very good result. The other 5 are not spectacular in any way.
Djokovic met Tsonga, Murray two times in Australia where he has never won (not that impressive) then Nadal outside RG + aging Federer in Wimbledon (good wins).
If any Big3 had a tougher first 7, it was Novak, I'd say.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I would rather say Rafa is a very early bloomer, pretty much like older ATGs, which explains the pressure on his body so far and the decline in dominance over the other two, despite age. He has more mileage on his body at top level.
Do you argue that Philippoussis, Safin, Roddick, Hewitt, Roddick, Agassi and Baghdatis is at least equally difficult as Puarta, Federer, Federer, Federer, Federer, Federer and Federer?
Linelicker
Rookie
I was talking about slam wins, I thought that was clear.
Federer should have cleaned the 'weak era', but couldn't. He reached his first clay final in 2006, and lost to Rafa. He made many finals because the clay field got worse.
Lew II
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With impressive opponents:
Federer, Federer, Federer, Soderling, Berdych, Djokovic, Federer
Djokovic won 8 of the last 9 facing:
Federer, Federer, Murray, Murray, Wawrinka, Anderson, Del Potro, Nadal, Federer
Breakpointerer
Legend
Looks like we can't praise anyone's achievements without others bringing it down.
Which Slam final did Djokovic beat Wawrinka in, Lew II?
Lew II
G.O.A.T.
"Facing"
Which Slam final did Djokovic beat Wawrinka in?
Cup8489
G.O.A.T.
Reading fail? he face Wawrinka in a final, and that was the one he lost.
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
Sets dropped during the tournament:
Philippoussis 7
Safin 9
Roddick 1
Hewitt 0
Roddick 5
Agassi 7
Baghdatis 7
They were really wiping out the field, uh?
Tough era with deep field.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Your first post seemed sarcastic, and tbh I don't believe it was meant to be unconfrontational.
If it was then you can hardly blaming me considering the content of your posts...
SaintPetros
Hall of Fame
I've made pro-Fed posts too...
Wawrinka is 2-0 up on Djokovic in GS finals. Djokovic never beat Wawrinka in a GS final. So Djokovic lost, exactly.
As this was a thread about Fed winning his first 7 Slam finals and players winning Slam finals, not losing them, ROFL, thank you. /
NatF
Bionic Poster
One pro-Fed post for every 100 trying to tear him down does not a balanced poster make lol.
I never used a word mug in my life.
JaoSousa
Hall of Fame
All RG btw
JaoSousa
Hall of Fame
It just shows that Nadal got better in 2008 that he finally won something outside of RG. It doesn't mean Federer's opponents were weak. Hewitt was 4-3 against Nadal in 2003-2007 and Rafa's only wins were on clay. Federer had to go through difficult players, and if you really want to argue that, Anderson, Delpo in 2018, and even Med are nothing compared to Hewitt and Safin.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
1.15 is nothing... actual DR was 1.65, I've yet to see a bigger DR in a BO5 loss.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Frack man, no idea how he lost that one. Johansson was a dangerous player but Roddick was actually in top form and just unclutched himself out of the Open.
Breakpointerer
Legend
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
Holy crap.
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
7/45 slam losses with DR>1 (retirement excluded)... even fedr has only 13/58 (besides 4 of them being GS finals though, my sides).
AnOctorokForDinner
Talk Tennis Guru
He was basically unbreakable except when he got broken, one two three breaks and you're out. I think his rate of service points lost per service game was less than 1 excluding the three break games. A special gem in our hearts :lol:
SaintPetros
Hall of Fame
You mean the players that comprised Fed's mighty era of competition during his peak?
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