ForehandRF
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Well, tbh we entered the 21 st century in 2001, not in 2000.In some sciences, like meteorology for example, they also consider decades starting with 1 and there are many other examples.
Best match of 2010-2019 is...
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AnOctorokForDinner
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Not the first time I see this misunderstanding. A decade may refer to any period of ten years. It is completely correct to say the (20)10s decade is 2010-2019, just as it is correct to say that the second decade of the XXI century is 2011-20. Those are different decades though they overlap by 90%.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Look at that, all the top three picks feature Pushovic. And he won all of them. Hmmm... 
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Epic match.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Look at that, all the top three picks feature Pushovic. And he won all of them. Hmmm...
Pushovic is not so bad after all it seems.
stringertom
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Some worthy pre-final slam (and non-slam Bo3 FedPotro Oly’12) nominations but, IMO, it has to be a slam final determined by 1 break (or less: Wimby’19) to get my vote. Out of those, the best 60 minutes of a two-decade career from an ATG, rising from a 1-3 deficit to his first slam in 4.5 years, makes it the champ:
Sport
G.O.A.T.
It was a 4 sets match. There is a non-written rule that the best match of a decade must be a 5 setter because 5 sets matches are closer and have more drama than 5 sets matches. Otherwise, I would pick the USO 2013.
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tennis_pro
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2011 FO SF
Nadal really showed Murray
Nadal really showed Murray
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
Top 3 favourites from me in random order 2012 Djokodal aus open, 2017 Fedal aus open, 2018 Djokodal Wimb.
arvind13
Professional
idiot logic. many 4 set matches are better quality tennis than 5 set matches. and french open 2011 sf federer vs djokovic was better quality tennis than their us open 2011 sf.
NatF
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RS
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Underlooked match. Nadal was so clutch on big points in that match.
ForehandRF
Legend
Fed-Tsonga AO 2013 is also in the underlooked matches category.
RS
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Yeah because of Wawrinka-Djokovic in the same year.
MichaelNadal
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RS
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Both were better in USO 2010 I think.....
That was a good match in itself.
NatF
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I think the USO 2010 final was better than 2013, Djokovic was full on garbage for 50% of the match in 2013 spraying errors left and right.
RS
Bionic Poster
Djokovic was good in USO 2010 final while Nadal was at his best.
In USO 2013 Nadal was very good but not at his best and Djokovic was moderate imo.
NatF
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Nadal was kinda passive in 2013, I remember one of the sets he basically hit like no winners. He used the slice super well and kinda let Djokovic punch himself out. In 2010 Nadal was just crushing the ball from both wings, Djokovic didn't have a purple patch like the middle two sets of 2013 but he didn't sink as low either.
MichaelNadal
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Whatcha watching these days Nat?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
The difference between Murray and Nadal, as players, is a big one anyway. Nadal slso being extremely clutch results in a straight sets win for him. It's too much for Murray to overcome, who isn't an ATG talent unfortunately.
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G.O.A.T.
@NatF Still a better match than the RG 2011 semifinal for me. Anyhow, you are a Nadal hater, so of course you will try to denigrate that match.
The excuse "Djokovic was not at his best" is because you are incapable of being objective with Nadal. You will say that "Nadal was at his best" in the USO 2011 final, but Djokovic "was not at his best" in the USO 2010 and USO 2013 finals.
If Djokovic defeats Nadal, Nadal is at his best. If Nadal defeats Djokovic, Djokovic is supposedly not at his best. Double standard, and an excuse to make peak Djokovic look unbeatable. Djokovic is only at his peak if he wins. Excuses. No one is unbeatable regardless of his level.
The excuse "Djokovic was not at his best" is because you are incapable of being objective with Nadal. You will say that "Nadal was at his best" in the USO 2011 final, but Djokovic "was not at his best" in the USO 2010 and USO 2013 finals.
If Djokovic defeats Nadal, Nadal is at his best. If Nadal defeats Djokovic, Djokovic is supposedly not at his best. Double standard, and an excuse to make peak Djokovic look unbeatable. Djokovic is only at his peak if he wins. Excuses. No one is unbeatable regardless of his level.
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RS
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Murray is not quite a ATG but he isn’t miles of imo. He is behind the big 3 but better than everybody else in the last 15 years.
Murray played the big 4 close many times from 2008 until mid 2013 that is forgotten.
RS
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Nadal only hit 27 winners in USO13 actually. He played way more attacking in Cincy and Montreal in the same year.
I would say Nadal of USO2013 Final was like Djokovic of the USO 2015 final. Good but not at your best but being very clutch combined with messing up on big points from your opponent.
NatF
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TV wise I'm guessing?
Erm...been watching a fair bit of anime recently, just finished Attack on Titan, watching My Hero Academia season 4 as it comes out. Started watching Jack Ryan too, season 1 was fire. Probably more stuff lol.
And you are capable of being objective? Ok then
You're a joke man
Never seen you get past the names of the players when analysing a match, don't talk to me about objectivity.
NatF
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Yeah I think that's fair, he junkballed Djokovic and pulled out some timely shots when needed but Djokovic was making or breaking the plays.
RS
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Djokovic played well in the 2 middle sets yeah. Nadal did fully deserve the last and first sets even if he pulled a Houdini in the 3rd.
MichaelNadal
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RS
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2013 was a great year tennis. Maybe my favourite as a fan to see Nadal come back like thatIt was so epic lol I was just starting to sulk when he tripped and went 0-40
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
Lol, Federer fans are again bashing Nadal's USO draws, nothing new.
I wonder if @NatF and @mike danny can at least admit that Nadal was playing like garbage for most of USO 2011 final, or they are just using double standards.
I wonder if @NatF and @mike danny can at least admit that Nadal was playing like garbage for most of USO 2011 final, or they are just using double standards.
NatF
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Obvs, Djokovic was flat as a pancake in the final set it's not like he deserved it lol. Djokovic had a really good patch of play in the middle but he wasn't playing with controlled aggression - he got up a break in the third and then lost it with successive errors off the third ball. It was a decent match, not a terrible slam final by any means just nothing to write home about.
RS
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Serving was poor. Very good off the ground. Still a decent/good performance just not great. Djokovic at his best but Nadal below his 2010/13 level.Lol, Federer fans are again bashing Nadal's USO draws, nothing new.
I wonder if @NatF and @mike danny can at least admit that Nadal was playing like garbage for most of USO 2011 final, or they are just using double standards.
StrongRule
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He had no serve and no backhand at all. And all he was doing with his forehand is just hitting everything to Djokovic's backhand. He used so much more variety in USO 2013 final. It's a joke to even compare the 2011 final to 2010/2013 Nadal.
NatF
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Lol, Federer fans are again bashing Nadal's USO draws, nothing new.
I wonder if @NatF and @mike danny can at least admit that Nadal was playing like garbage for most of USO 2011 final, or they are just using double standards.
Another clown. I'm not bashing Nadal's USO draw anyway, I just found the idea that someone could think the USO 2013 final was the best match of the decade hilarious. Didn't mention his draw once.
Nadal served like hot garbage in the 2011 USO final, good off the ground until the 4th set where he collapsed and played poorly.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Let's get along
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
But I guess if one said USO 2011 was the best match of the decade you wouldn't laugh at it. How exactly Nadal with no backhand and no variety in his shots was good off the ground? He was totally clueless in the first 2 sets.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
I never once claimed Nadal played a great USO final in 2011, which is why I gave Fed a chance against him.Lol, Federer fans are again bashing Nadal's USO draws, nothing new.
I wonder if @NatF and @mike danny can at least admit that Nadal was playing like garbage for most of USO 2011 final, or they are just using double standards.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Where did he imply that he would agree with USO 2011 final being the best match of the decade?
NatF
Bionic Poster
I would do and have done on numerous occasions. So you're off the mark as usual.
The TA chart has Nadal winning a higher percentage of his backhand points than his forehand...I stand by my statement, good level in general off the ground but some of the worst serving I've seen from Nadal in a big match, only worse match I can think of was the AO 2014 final when he hurt his back....
Sport
G.O.A.T.
Yet you found the idea that the RG 2011 SF is the best match of the decade perfectly rational as you did not put a laughing GIF to that user. Unsurprising unobjectivity.
mike danny
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Because the FO 2011 SF was a better match than the 2013 USO F.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
No, it wasn't.
NatF
Bionic Poster
I don't think that match was close to the best match of the decade either and I may have responded to it if you didn't write something far more ridiculous.
Both the 2011 FO SF and final, which Nadal obviously won, were clearly superior in terms of quality to the USO 2013 F - my thoughts on the match have nothing to do with whether Nadal won the match or not.
The irony of you talking about objectivity continues...
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
He called AO 2012 final the best match of the decade though. A match where there was not even 1 great rally which is remembered for a long time. (even USO 2011 final had 2 such rallies)
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G.O.A.T.
No, none of those matches were "clearly" supeiror to the USO 2013 final. What is "clearly superior" about Federer losing for the 300th time agaisnt Nadal at RG?
The USO 2013 final is the best 4 sets match of the decade.
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
The semifinal yes, but the final? You should not just look at how Nadal's opponents play but at Nadal's level too. Nadal in USO 2013 played clearly better than in RG 2011. It was pretty bad from Federer to lose to a very average Nadal in that final.
MichaelNadal
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Imo Nadal played fantastically in the 2011 FO final. Some of my fav rallies ever in that match
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