Djokovic News

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Djoker was favourite for Wimbledon and US Open the year .

Wimbledon got cancelled and Got defaulted from US open .

it seems Djoker wil not end with slam record . it's difficult nw
 
I played Cricket with tennis balls for more than 20 years now and saw 1000s of tennis ball cricket matches .

Never saw anyone fall on ground after getting hit by tennis ball . Never.

Noone falls on ground after getting hit by ball at speed 100 km per hour , this was not even 20 km per hour speed . WTF

Also , IF LinesPerson need quick reflexes , why choose 253 year old person for the job ?

I think lines person should be young , who has quick reflexes . People in their 20s and 30s shud be ball kids and lines judge.
Yes. I can't think of that the lineswoman reaction was anything but honest. Sad day for tennis.
 
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joohan

Guest
I played Cricket with tennis balls for more than 20 years now and saw 1000s of tennis ball cricket matches .

Never saw anyone fall on ground after getting hit by tennis ball . Never.

Noone falls on ground after getting hit by ball at speed 100 km per hour , this was not even 20 km per hour speed . WTF

Also , IF LinesPerson need quick reflexes , why choose 253 year old person for the job ?

I think lines person should be young , who has quick reflexes . People in their 20s and 30s shud be ball kids and lines judge.

Phillip Hughes? There are certain sweetspots throughout human body that don’t need much stimuli to off you and neck is most certainly top of the list. Carotid sinus, vago-vagal syncope...food for thought (and Google).

This is beside the point anyway. You physically insult a referee, game over. Something a 33y old, 17 times GS champion should be aware of more than anyone else.
 

Nadal_King

Hall of Fame
Djoker was favourite for Wimbledon and US Open the year .

Wimbledon got cancelled and Got defaulted from US open .

it seems Djoker wil not end with slam record . it's difficult nw
Nah still his fitness is best in the sport and his all court ability will keep him with regular grand slam chances
 

thrust

Legend
I think he should get back to court soon .
He should start practising on clay soon in few days.

If he dwells on this issue , he might not be able to focus at RG.

Don't know why but when Djokovic is full in momentum to go closer to Fedal at slams , the worst thing happens . After RG 2016 , and now this .

I hope he can recover from this and focus on slams now . he is inform . What a mess :cautious:
I agree! Perhaps hearing that he was the overwhelming favorite to win this USO every day, took a tole on Novak's frame of mind? There are rarely any guarantees in sports and though I was rooting for Novak to win this USO, I was never sure that he would. Also, winning last weeks masters last week and working on his player's association probably took a toll on Novak's attitude and patience. IMO, the best thing Novak should do is get back on court as soon as possible and keep his mind on tennis and not so much on other than family issues.
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
It was definitely not his intent, but rules gotta apply to everyone. The probability of hitting someone is so less but If it happens you are done
Doesn't matter what side you are on and if you think that DQ should or shouldn't have happened, but please don't spread any more misinformation. The rules are clear that the organisers had a choice to make. They ultimately made the choice, not followed strict rules.
 
Doesn't matter what side you are on and if you think that DQ should or shouldn't have happened, but please don't spread any more misinformation. The rules are clear that the organisers had a choice to make. They ultimately made the choice, not followed strict rules.
If they had not DQed him, the media would definitely have started a full scale witch hunt saying how he is above the rules and can get away with anything. I understand that according to the rules the DQ could have been avoided, but the USO wanted to make a statement that even the world number 1 can get punished, in this case they happily did it cause it was Novak, a guy they hate so much.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Phillip Hughes? There are certain sweetspots throughout human body that don’t need much stimuli to off you and neck is most certainly top of the list. Carotid sinus, vago-vagal syncope...food for thought (and Google).

This is beside the point anyway. You physically insult a referee, game over. Something a 33y old, 17 times GS champion should be aware of more than anyone else.

I am myself saying that Decision by US Open to default Djokovic is Correct .

Btw You are talking about Season leather ball , not tennis ball .
Philip Hughes dies because of LEATHER ball .

Tennis ball is soft and cannot make you fall on ground . NEVER
 

N01E

Hall of Fame
If they had not DQed him, the media would definitely have started a full scale witch hunt saying how he is above the rules and can get away with anything. I understand that according to the rules the DQ could have been avoided, but the USO wanted to make a statement that even the world number 1 can get punished, in this case they happily did it cause it was Novak, a guy they hate so much.
That still doesn't mean that the rule ordered them to do so, as they try to shift the responsibility from their choice as far away from them as possible. They didn't DQ Bedene because they wanted to avoid controversy and any negative feedback after the tour was away for that long, so they handled that one as quitely as possible. The official statement they released after Novak's match was perfectly applicable to that scenario as well and they even left it open with listing offences that were not commited because they didn't want to go into the details. They also brought line judges (what was wrong with "Cincy"?) even though they were clearly unfit to do the job just to show more sponsor logos. Now they were under pressure and decided to make a statement and now they keep lying with claiming that there was no other options. If you want to DQ Djokovic then fine, you have a power in that situation to do so, but be a man and admit it that you made the call.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Doesn't matter what side you are on and if you think that DQ should or shouldn't have happened, but please don't spread any more misinformation. The rules are clear that the organisers had a choice to make. They ultimately made the choice, not followed strict rules.

Novak's fate was sealed when the lineswoman left the court knowingly. It was clear she didn't want to forgive Novak there and then. She probably didn't see Novak hitting the ball, which looked like regular ball passing. I wonder what she has to say after watching the video. In any case, the tension between Novak and the referees was rather obvious and quite surprising.
 

Azure

G.O.A.T.
Tough luck really and commies to all the Nole fans. Honestly it was just a freak accident. I know if anyone can brush this aside and come back stronger, it's him and I look forward to the day he will lift the next slam (y)
 
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joohan

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I am myself saying that Decision by US Open to default Djokovic is Correct .

Btw You are talking about Season leather ball , not tennis ball .
Philip Hughes dies because of LEATHER ball .

Tennis ball is soft and cannot make you fall on ground . NEVER

If you say so...got hit in the eye playing doubles. Happily fell to the ground since I couldn’t tell where is up or down. Tennis ball...soft...NEVERrrrr.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
If you say so...got hit in the eye playing doubles. Happily fell to the ground since I couldn’t tell where is up or down. Tennis ball...soft...NEVERrrrr.

First you tried to prove Ur point by Incorrectly giving example of Philip Hughes .
And I cleared it that it was Leather ball and not tennis Ball .

And now u are saying u got hit on the Eye , Ok I will trust your personal experiance .

And He didn't INSULT lineswoman . He just tried to put the ball away and he had NO Intention to hit anyone . It's just an Accident.

US Open is correct to Default him.. He should have been bit Careful .
But once again ,He didn't INSULT anyone ...
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Lol. I can’t help but laugh at this.



Right, he’s already been punished. DQ, gave back his winnings, and received zero points for the USO, as if he didn’t even step on court. Anything more is unnecessary and unfair.
Can you clarify on the points? Will he still - under the new Covid-affected policy - get credit for last year's points at the US Open...as would those who played last year, but not this year?
 
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joohan

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First you tried to prove Ur point by Incorrectly giving example of Philip Hughes .
And I cleared it that it was Leather ball and not tennis Ball .

And now u are saying u got hit on the Eye , Ok I will trust your personal experiance .

And He didn't INSULT lineswoman . He just tried to put the ball away and he had NO Intention to hit anyone . It's just an Accident.

US Open is correct to Default him.. He should have been bit Careful .
But once again ,He didn't INSULT anyone ...

Oh my...physical insult? Did he hit the ball? He did? Did he hit the woman? He did. That’s called a physical insult of a referee/linesman/lineswoman whoever. It does not matter if you hit them with your hand, your racquet or tennis shoe or whether it’s intentional or unintentional. Physical insult it is.

I know you said you don’t know anyone who got hurt by playing cricket or whatever and I already know better than trying to convince you that if you get hit into the same spot as Phil Hughes with 130km/h passing tennis ball, it does not make much of a difference. Ciao.
 

Shaj

Semi-Pro
What made it worse was the woman started screaming and gasping for breath,whether it was pure overacting,although doesnt look like so,or not...

Maybe if he hit a 20 something guy he would have brushed off and we would have talked about how he got through in a tough 4 setter against Busta..
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Oh my...physical insult? Did he hit the ball? He did? Did he hit the woman? He did. That’s called a physical insult of a referee/linesman/lineswoman whoever. It does not matter if you hit them with your hand, your racquet or tennis shoe or whether it’s intentional or unintentional. Physical insult it is.

I know you said you don’t know anyone who got hurt by playing cricket or whatever and I already know better than trying to convince you that if you get hit into the same spot as Phil Hughes with 130km/h passing tennis ball, it does not make much of a difference. Ciao.

You are the first and ONLY person to use the word INSULT in this Episode .
Even the worst Djokovic haters didn't used the word INSULT .
I have read few articles and they didn't used the word INSULT .
well done hahahaha :-D :-D :-D

And yeah , Noone falls on ground every being hit by tennis ball . Lol

Celebrating Racist Bigot White Supremacist Broadcasters is not an act to be respected either , anyways Bye .

hahaha:D:D
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
What made it worse was the woman started screaming and gasping for breath,whether it was pure overacting,although doesnt look like so,or not...

Maybe if he hit a 20 something guy he would have brushed off and we would have talked about how he got through in a tough 4 setter against Busta..

exactly .this is what I feel too..
If a job needs quick reflexes then hire people aged between 20 to 35 .

why do they hire 253 years old people is difficult to understnd . :censored:
 
My commiserations to Djokovic fans. To be honest, I would have liked for Novak to lose at some point and a new GS winner being crowned. But definitely not like this. As @Hitman mentioned, the whole thing was quite surreal. Hopefully, it never happens again. Wish Djokovic recovers mentally from this and concentrates on the dirt.
 
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Deleted member 744633

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I played Cricket with tennis balls for more than 20 years now and saw 1000s of tennis ball cricket matches .

Never saw anyone fall on ground after getting hit by tennis ball . Never.

Noone falls on ground after getting hit by ball at speed 100 km per hour , this was not even 20 km per hour speed . WTF

Also , IF LinesPerson need quick reflexes , why choose 253 year old person for the job ?

I think lines person should be young , who has quick reflexes . People in their 20s and 30s shud be ball kids and lines judge.

Machan ... many things wrong in your post and my first point below is a mistake Djokovic himself committed in the immediate aftermath of the incident.

1. Downplaying the incident based on your own perception rather than acknowledging that everyone is different and perhaps the lineswoman was truly feeling pain

2. Questioning the competency of the lady who had thus far done her job to the satisfaction of the tournament simply because it resulted in your favorite player being defaulted

3. Judging someone based on her age rather than ability

4. Effect of a tennis ball flying at 100 km/hr- I seriously hope you're only kidding else you have no idea how fast 100 km/hr really is. At that speed, you better hope it doesn't hit you on the throat.

Sorry Machi, that was a very very poor post and I hope you come to see it. We're all disappointed by the incident yesterday but let's not make it worse for ourselves.
 
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Deleted member 744633

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exactly .this is what I feel too..
If a job needs quick reflexes then hire people aged between 20 to 35 .

why do they hire 253 years old people is difficult to understnd . :censored:

Machi ... not again! Her job is to possess enough reflexes to dodge balls in play. Was the ball in play when Djokovic hit it toward her? Why are you judging her based on something Djokovic shouldn't have done and was wrong in doing it?
 
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Deleted member 744633

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When I heard the woman screaming I thought, this is gone now..irreversible situation..

It was on the cards really..I lost count of number of times he was getting away with hitting the ball..i thought to myself now he is walking on a thin line here.. some day obviously he is going to hit somebody..

Novak is a notch above Feral but he has this habit of stomping on his own feet which Fedal conveniently avoid...

Conveniently avoid? Really? It's called being intelligent and respectful to the spirit of the game. If Djokovic had followed in their foot steps, he'd be one match closer to slam No. 18 and one step closer to the records he is chasing. Instead he'll soon be on a plane heading back home.
 

TearTheRoofOff

G.O.A.T.
Belated condolences to the Djokomassive. Looked like a very unlucky consequence arising from rather mild carelessness, to which most if not all of the ATP is no stranger. I hope you can still enjoy the tourny, though would understand if not. In any case, plenty of time for more to smile about (y)
 
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Deleted member 744633

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Belated condolences to the Djokomassive. Looked like a very unlucky consequence arising from rather mild carelessness, to which most if not all of the ATP is no stranger. I hope you can still enjoy the tourny, though would understand if not. In any case, plenty of time for more to smile about (y)

Disappointed but I will watch and enjoy the tourney. The game is bigger than any individual.
 
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Deleted member 744633

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I suppose the tourny is at least wide open at this point, with no clear favourite. I just hope the winner isn't someone underwhelming like Printed Circuit Board.

LOL, brilliant! :-D

I think Medvedev has a great chance. After his performance in the final last year, I think he may be ready to go all the way. Can't wait to find out :)
 
The weird part is, the next tournament is just a week away! I have absolutley no clue what Novak's plan will be
Don't think he'll be mentally ready to do well in the clay season
 
The weird part is, the next tournament is just a week away! I have absolutley no clue what Novak's plan will be
Don't think he'll be mentally ready to do well in the clay season
Don't think he will play tbh... Also don't forget that ATP could still decide to suspend him for a certain period of time. It's in their prerogatives.
 

onyxrose81

Hall of Fame
It’ll be overkill if they suspend him. He was defaulted and forfeited his prize money. That’s enough.

I think he’ll play. He’ll have that aggression and might go HAM in Rome.

I hope either one of Thiem or Med (jeez or even Zeverev) wins the title. I don’t feel right with anyone else winning it. At least with the former two, theyve knocked on the door of a major before, especially Thiem. I think I would prefer Med. Other than going too fast once, he’s been on his best behavior.
 

maratha_warrior

Hall of Fame
Machi ... not again! Her job is to possess enough reflexes to dodge balls in play. Was the ball in play when Djokovic hit it toward her? Why are you judging her based on something Djokovic shouldn't have done and was wrong in doing it?

1. First of all I am totally with US Open here and feel that the decision to Default Djokovic is TOTALLY CORRECT .

2. Ofcourse it is just my opinion , and it might be correct or incorrect too .
But my opinion is , Ball kids and LinesPerson need quick reflexes to dodge balls .

And my opinion is also based on their safety , I have watched the video 20 times and clearly can say that any person of age 20 - 30 would have dodged the ball. She didn't even move 1 centimeter .
Just notice how People in their 20s and 30s move on tennis courts , they have quick reflexes .

3. What if the ball hurt her eyes , what if it would have caused permanent damage to her eyes ? Young person can easily dodge ball .
Comeon , If you played cricket wid tennis ball You would know Umpire is mostly agile and have quick reflex action . They are examined on their fitness too .

Also talking about 100 kilometers per hour , You should definately know at what speed shoaid akhtar and and Brett Lee bowls .
If you play on any ground of India wid tennis balls , you always get hit by tennis balls at the speed of 50-100 kms per hour too depends on the speed of bowler .
Noone falls on ground by getting hit by tennis ball , Ofcourse it hurts a bit but people doesn't fall .

This lady is too old and she fell down unfortunately .
 
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joohan

Guest
You are the first and ONLY person to use the word INSULT in this Episode .
Even the worst Djokovic haters didn't used the word INSULT .
I have read few articles and they didn't used the word INSULT .
well done hahahaha :-D :-D :-D

And yeah , Noone falls on ground every being hit by tennis ball . Lol

Celebrating Racist Bigot White Supremacist Broadcasters is not an act to be respected either , anyways Bye .

hahaha:D:D

If you don’t know (what seems to be...) your own mother language, then I really don’t know what to tell you. You do have internet, obviously, so maybe it’s not the worst idea to use it for something useful and broaden your vocabulary.
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, nothing we can do but look ahead to clay season and hope that Djokovic can recoup and play his best tennis there. I'd love to see him win RG... ;)
 
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Deleted member 744633

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1. First of all I am totally with US Open here and feel that the decision to Default Djokovic is TOTALLY CORRECT .

2. Ofcourse it is just my opinion , and it might be correct or incorrect too .
But my opinion is , Ball kids and LinesPerson need quick reflexes to dodge balls .

And my opinion is also based on their safety , I have watched the video 20 times and clearly can say that any person of age 20 - 30 would have dodged the ball. She didn't even move 1 centimeter .
Just notice how People in their 20s and 30s move on tennis courts , they have quick reflexes .

3. What if the ball hurt her eyes , what if it would have caused permanent damage to her eyes ? Young person can easily dodge ball .
Comeon , If you played cricket wid tennis ball You would know Umpire is mostly agile and have quick reflex action . They are examined on their fitness too .

Also talking about 100 kilometers per hour , You should definately know at what speed shoaid akhtar and and Brett Lee bowls .
If you play on any ground of India wid tennis balls , you always get hit by tennis balls at the speed of 50-100 kms per hour too depends on the speed of bowler .
Noone falls on ground by getting hit by tennis ball , Ofcourse it hurts a bit but people doesn't fall .

This lady is too old and she fell down unfortunately .

Machan I'm a 50 something year old driving down the street. I have a green and start to move. Meanwhile you're a 20 something young man who fails to notice you have a red. You run your red light and hit me. Sure you can go before the judge and say if the guy I hit had been younger, his better reflexes would have helped us both prevent a crash. What chance do you think you'll have?

You have already admitted that the referee was right in defaulting Djokovic. So these arguments are of little value. Considerable damage has been done and Djokovic next heads to where the Everest of all tennis challenges will be awaiting, a certain Spaniard.
 
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joohan

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What made it worse was the woman started screaming and gasping for breath,whether it was pure overacting,although doesnt look like so,or not...

Maybe if he hit a 20 something guy he would have brushed off and we would have talked about how he got through in a tough 4 setter against Busta..

If she got hit into thyroid cartilage (appeared to be the case) then it would be superhuman not to react the way she did. Martial arts technique for paralyzing the opponent.
 

Shaj

Semi-Pro
I'm concerned about Nole's mental health, there's only so much vitriol a person can take. Hope he comes back stronger as before. I may be biased as a fan, but I'm suspicious about his disqualification and trust him on other things. I'm also suspect about the political state of tennis.
Stick together #NoleFam.
Bye : )

Yes,its like almost how they write the script of this...I am sure with all the PATP stuff going on,they just wanted to nail him..


Although he has won 3 US open till now and not bad at all..But this is a cursed slam for him..something or other just happens to him on this..2016,got injured and pysched out,

Stupid losses to Murray,Nadal and Nishikori,2019 got injured again...And now this...Cursed slam for him..Atleast French Open always had good vibes for him..Although he hasn't won there much..lolz
 

JadeC

Hall of Fame
What are the possibilities/permutations here, folks?

Can you clarify on the points? Will he still - under the new Covid-affected policy - get credit for last year's points at the US Open...as would those who played last year, but not this year?

I don't follow the rules of the points for this year. Not sure what the effects of this DQ has on YE #1. Maybe @TripleATeam or @Enceladus can shine a light.
 

TripleATeam

G.O.A.T.
I don't follow the rules of the points for this year. Not sure what the effects of this DQ has on YE #1. Maybe @TripleATeam or @Enceladus can shine a light.
No points penalty for 2019, so presumably his points will be unaffected in the USO. I'll do a more comprehensive breakdown soon, but YE#1 pretty much rests on WTF, and he's got a decent cushion. If he wins RG it's over.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
No points penalty for 2019, so presumably his points will be unaffected in the USO. I'll do a more comprehensive breakdown soon, but YE#1 pretty much rests on WTF, and he's got a decent cushion. If he wins RG it's over.
My understanding is Novak won't have any points from USO.
 
If she got hit into thyroid cartilage (appeared to be the case) then it would be superhuman not to react the way she did. Martial arts technique for paralyzing the opponent.
Oh, you are sooooo right. OMG.
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