Coria to get $10,000,000 for false drug suspension

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tennisjunkiela

Semi-Pro
Hot off the wire - Guillermo Coria is suing the vitamin manufacturer of steroid-laced vitamins for $10,000,000 for damages caused to his tennis career by his untimely drug suspension.

The company, Universal Nutrition, has admitted in court that it produced steroid-containing products and multivitamins on the same machines on the same day at its factory.

http://msn.foxsports.com/tennis/story/6915860

Coria says he was only taking only multi-vitamins at the time of his positive test and alleges that the vitamins from Universal Nutrition were tainted with steroids, hence causing him to test positive for steroids.

Coria finally gets his day in court after 5 years. Your thoughts?
 
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LowProfile

Professional
He'll only get 10 million if he outright wins his case in court. They might settle before court, and if not, Coria will probably get 1-3 million max, if the court sides win him. Seeing as how they decided the cases of other doping suspensions, most notably Canas and Puerta, the courts will probably not completely side with Coria.
 
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Morrissey

Guest
Is he really getting 10 million? Wow, now it´s more than likely he won´t come back to the tour.
 
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Sean Dugan

Rookie
I'm surprised he didn't sue for a higher amount.

The trial starts Monday in Trenton.....the parties may eventually settle out of court for a lesser amount than the jury award. Then Coria will have to fork over about 30% of the settlement to his professional extortionists....I mean his lawyers. ;o)

If you read the article ,this goes back to a seven month suspension he endured when he was 19 based on a positive test in Spain. The ATP reduced his suspension after later tests indicated the multivitamins Coria took contained traces of steroids.

I wonder if those are the multivitamins Bonds and McGuire recommended to him. ;O)
 
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idj49

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LowProfile said:
He'll only get 10 million if he outright wins his case in court. They might settle before court, and if not, Coria will probably get 1-3 million max, if the court sides win him. Seeing as how they decided the cases of other doping suspensions, most notably Canas and Puerta, the courts will probably not completely side with Coria.
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Coria is suing the manufacturer of the multi-vitamin what does that have to do with Canas or Puerta cases?
 
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LowProfile

Professional
idj49 said:
Coria is suing the manufacturer of the multi-vitamin what does that have to do with Canas or Puerta cases?
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In the cases of Canas or Puerta, the arbitration body found that neither of them were at fault (especially Canas, who took a vitamin that was tainted, through none of Canas's fault, with a diuretic), yet still only reduced their suspensions, rather than clearing them and allowing them to immediately start playing again.

In Coria's case, these cases could easily be used as precedent for any decision that the jury reaches.
 
mileslong

mileslong

Professional
canas was found to have a well known masking agent in his sample which is why he was rightfully suspended...
 
Alexandros

Alexandros

Professional
LowProfile said:
In the cases of Canas or Puerta, the arbitration body found that neither of them were at fault (especially Canas, who took a vitamin that was tainted, through none of Canas's fault, with a diuretic), yet still only reduced their suspensions, rather than clearing them and allowing them to immediately start playing again.

In Coria's case, these cases could easily be used as precedent for any decision that the jury reaches.
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Canas and Puerta cases are completely irrelevant to Coria's... Coria is going to a court of law which has the authority to force a company to cough up money, whereas you are referring to a drug tribunal that only has authority to prevent an athlete from competing.
 
bigserving

bigserving

Hall of Fame
Coria will have to prove beyond a resonable doubt that taking those vitamins and no other source caused his positive test. The vitamin company will probably parade hundreds of people who took those same vitamins yet do not test positive for steroids.

Uphill battle for him.
 
hoosierbr

hoosierbr

Hall of Fame
LowProfile said:
In the cases of Canas or Puerta, the arbitration body found that neither of them were at fault (especially Canas, who took a vitamin that was tainted, through none of Canas's fault, with a diuretic), yet still only reduced their suspensions, rather than clearing them and allowing them to immediately start playing again.
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That's completely false in the Puerta case. In their decision, the arbitration body stated that if Puerta were telling the truth about how he tested positive for a banned substance then he was at the very least grossly negligent and reckless. I believe he claimed he drank water from his wife's glass that had traces of her medication in it or something pretty ridiculous. The board didn't buy it but were unable to conclude exactly how the banned substance got into his system which is why he got his ban reduced on appeal.

If it were his first offense that's one thing but he initially got a lifetime ban because it was his second offense. The guy's a cheat in one way or another.
 
Rhino

Rhino

Legend
It's always someone from Argentina for some reason.

Man, I miss Coria... clay court tennis really needs him. Imagine if a fit Coria had been in the mix over this last clay court season.... We may have had another classic Rafa vs Coria in Rome, and he would've changed the course of Roland Garros too perhaps.
 
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Lefty Spin

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Actually the standard of review should not be the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard but that of "a preponderance of the evidence". Thus, Coria would only need to prove that it is more likely than not that his positive drug test was a result of the tainted vitamins. The beyond a reasonable doubt standard typically only applies to criminal cases. If New Jersey is a comparative negligence state he could have any money he wins deducted by whatever percent he is deemed negligent in the positive drug result.
 
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pow

Hall of Fame
Wow that's horrible. That company should be in more trouble for unsuspectingly exposing steroid to who knows how many people?! I'd hate to have stunted growth from taking vitamins.
 
FarFed

FarFed

Rookie
LowProfile said:
...especially Canas, who took a vitamin that was tainted, through none of Canas's fault, with a diuretic
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That's incorrect. Canas did not even remember the name of the pill (which he claimed was to treat flu-like symptoms, he did not claim the pills were vitamins). Also, he didn't retain an empty bottle for proof and couldn't produce the prescription.

Coria's case seems to be much cleaner, he has a product name and a drug manufacturer's name.
 
FarFed

FarFed

Rookie
hoosierbr said:
That's completely false in the Puerta case. In their decision, the arbitration body stated that if Puerta were telling the truth about how he tested positive for a banned substance then he was at the very least grossly negligent and reckless. I believe he claimed he drank water from his wife's glass that had traces of her medication in it or something pretty ridiculous. The board didn't buy it but were unable to conclude exactly how the banned substance got into his system which is why he got his ban reduced on appeal.

If it were his first offense that's one thing but he initially got a lifetime ban because it was his second offense. The guy's a cheat in one way or another.
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Didn't know that, but the pattern seems to be very similar in cases where the defendant is banned. They claim negligence. Canas played dumb too when he claimed that someone else bought and delivered the "medicine" to him, but failed to provide names when he was asked to.
 
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officerdibble

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There's something of a catch 22 here. He's suing for $10m because of how highly up the rankings he was at the time of his ban, but if he was taking steroids (however they got into his system) he was getting an unfair advantage and therefore more highly rated than he should have been.
 
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idj49

Semi-Pro
FarFed said:
Didn't know that, but the pattern seems to be very similar in cases where the defendant is banned. They claim negligence. Canas played dumb too when he claimed that someone else bought and delivered the "medicine" to him, but failed to provide names when he was asked to.
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Your talking about 2 different things though. Coria isn't trying to prove his guilt or innocence he is trying to prove the vitamin manufacturer was negligent when they manufactured the vitamin he ingested. Once again has nothing to do with Canas and his claims.
 
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ja_

Rookie
officerdibble said:
There's something of a catch 22 here. He's suing for $10m because of how highly up the rankings he was at the time of his ban, but if he was taking steroids (however they got into his system) he was getting an unfair advantage and therefore more highly rated than he should have been.
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"In February 2001, Coria began taking regular doses of multivitamins manufactured by Universal and distributed by Gaspari. In April of that year, a urine test conducted as part of the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP) Anti-Doping program revealed trace amounts of nandrolone, a known steroid, in Coria's system. The infinitesimal traces were inconsistent with steroid usage and not enough to have any performance-enhancing effects, but they were enough to generate a positive drug test result."

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070612/20070612005849.html?.v=1
 
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tennisjunkiela

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ja_ said:
"In February 2001, Coria began taking regular doses of multivitamins manufactured by Universal and distributed by Gaspari. In April of that year, a urine test conducted as part of the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP) Anti-Doping program revealed trace amounts of nandrolone, a known steroid, in Coria's system. The infinitesimal traces were inconsistent with steroid usage and not enough to have any performance-enhancing effects, but they were enough to generate a positive drug test result."
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great post!
 
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croatian sensation

Professional
Rhino said:
Man, I miss Coria... clay court tennis really needs him. Imagine if a fit Coria had been in the mix over this last clay court season.... We may have had another classic Rafa vs Coria in Rome, and he would've changed the course of Roland Garros too perhaps.
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Yes! Yes! One of the best claycourters after Rafa. When they used to play it was the best clay could offer. Both catching amazing stuff, and keeping it interesting. I like watching long clay court points.

About the lawsuit...idk,would he be that dumb to sue, and put a spotlight back on his doping case after so much time if he really had taken it on purpose!? Very interesting,lately I have been studying clinical biochemistry, and it really intrigues me if analytically this is possible. Probably yes. It is possible to detect a smaller quantity of an analyte than it's required to cause effect in the body.
If they really were so negligent in manufacture...rip them off Guille!
 
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JMS

Professional
Duzza said:
Is the 10 mil for his loss of earnings? Because I could easily argue that :D
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yea he claimed it for his lack of earnings because "He was reaching his peak" and for lost endorsement money :rolleyes:
 
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fastdunn

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ja_ said:
"In February 2001, Coria began taking regular doses of multivitamins manufactured by Universal and distributed by Gaspari. In April of that year, a urine test conducted as part of the Association of Tennis Professionals (ATP) Anti-Doping program revealed trace amounts of nandrolone, a known steroid, in Coria's system. The infinitesimal traces were inconsistent with steroid usage and not enough to have any performance-enhancing effects, but they were enough to generate a positive drug test result."

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070612/20070612005849.html?.v=1
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BTW, how is Coria going to prove he actually took that vitamin ?
Does he have reciepts or something ?
 
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dltorre

Rookie
The Truth I am sorry but...

I am sorry but...
the company selling that sh**t is from USA not American like you like to say
America is much more than USA.
Guess where I am from
Guess where do I live
I see that all the time
The more ignorant the individual the more nationalist.
And it surprise me to find that happening in the country the most open (voluntary or not) to inmigration.


Hope nobody hates me after that, but it is sooo true that even B**h would
agree on that.
 
FarFed

FarFed

Rookie
idj49 said:
Your talking about 2 different things though. Coria isn't trying to prove his guilt or innocence he is trying to prove the vitamin manufacturer was negligent when they manufactured the vitamin he ingested. Once again has nothing to do with Canas and his claims.
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I was referring to Puerta's case as compared to Canas'.
 
princess bossass

princess bossass

Semi-Pro
Wow, if the article ja_ posted is true, and if Coria really just took tainted vitamins, what a true dicking over. Can any dollar amount really make up for his tainted image and stalled career? Boooooo.:-(
 
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tennisjunkiela

Semi-Pro
princess bossass said:
Wow, if the article ja_ posted is true, and if Coria really just took tainted vitamins, what a true dicking over. Can any dollar amount really make up for his tainted image and stalled career? Boooooo.:-(
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You're right.

Until I read the article, I thought Coria was just another juiced up athlete who got caught. I had no sympathy for him.

Now that the company has admitted that they made the vitamins (that Coria took) on the same machines that they made steroid products, it seems very plausible that he could have taken tainted vitamins, especially since the ATP determined the amount in his system wasn't consistent with the patterns of steroid use, nor were there any masking agents.

So basically he got screwed and his image is tainted forever! I hope he gets the $10 million.
 
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mctennis

Legend
I hope he gets the money. If they messed up his career he needs compenstaion. It's not like he just works at a desk job and makes $20, 000 a year. Get em' Coria.
 
TheTruth

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
dltorre said:
I am sorry but...
the company selling that sh**t is from USA not American like you like to say
America is much more than USA.
Guess where I am from
Guess where do I live
I see that all the time
The more ignorant the individual the more nationalist.
And it surprise me to find that happening in the country the most open (voluntary or not) to inmigration.


Hope nobody hates me after that, but it is sooo true that even B**h would
agree on that.
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My post was sarcastic. I hate hearing that any group "cheats" and others don't. This whole thing bothers me, period. For the record, I didn't say anything about America. I just think it's horrible that the Argentineans get a bad rap and talked about the most. Personally, I think it's racist!
 
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LeftyServe

Semi-Pro
There was no doubt that the vitamin manufacturer was liable; they admitted their negligence. The trial was solely a question of damages. It wasn't a question of whether Coria would get a damages award; it was a question of how much. After hearing testimony from IMG about Coria's lost endorsement opportunites and an economic expert lined up to prove 10 milliion, the manufacturer saw the writing on the wall and it looked pretty bad. Non-disclosure of monetary settlements usually means a pretty hefty award for the plaintiff. I'm guessing Coria got quite a bit.
 
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ja_

Rookie
LeftyServe said:
There was no doubt that the vitamin manufacturer was liable; they admitted their negligence. The trial was solely a question of damages. It wasn't a question of whether Coria would get a damages award; it was a question of how much. After hearing testimony from IMG about Coria's lost endorsement opportunites and an economic expert lined up to prove 10 milliion, the manufacturer saw the writing on the wall and it looked pretty bad. Non-disclosure of monetary settlements usually means a pretty hefty award for the plaintiff. I'm guessing Coria got quite a bit.
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Great analysis of the whole situation.
Congrats to Coria.

carol4832 said:
Coria and Bonds, should go bowling and have some beers together..
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Bonds sued BALCO? How much did he get?
 
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tennisjunkiela

Semi-Pro
congrats to coria that he finally got his day in court and won (or at least settled for a nice chunk of money)!

now hopefully, he can concentrate on his tennis and get his game back to the top level again.
 
Roger_Federer.

Roger_Federer.

Semi-Pro
ElSuegro said:
He'll never get his game back; that's why he sued. He can't make a living on the court any more with all his injuries (which had nothing to do with his vitamins).
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When he gets back he will get to the top, and if he does, then the King of Clay is going to have problems.
 
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pound cat

G.O.A.T.
Roger_Federer. said:
When he gets back he will get to the top, and if he does, then the King of Clay is going to have problems.
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If he hasn't spent his time off bulking up, he will have no hope. A lot has changed since he left the scene and there are many players who are really good on clay.

It's a good thing he got some cash from the settlement.
 
Andres

Andres

G.O.A.T.
pound cat said:
If he hasn't spent his time off bulking up, he will have no hope. A lot has changed since he left the scene and there are many players who are really good on clay.

It's a good thing he got some cash from the settlement.
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What has changed? When do you think he left? He did a QF in Montecarlo last year, even playing crappy tennis, and before that, those clay finals lost to Nadal.

What has changed since then on clay THAT IMPORTANT, then? Robredo Top10? what else?
 
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