The Holy Trinity of the 4 slams...
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InsuranceMan
Hall of Fame
Looks good but maybe Kuerten above Lendl?
happyandbob
Legend
I don't get involved in the stupid goat debates, but that list is comically bad
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Lendl had five finals just like Wilander but the Czech had more wins on Parisian clay than the Swede.
Federev
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UnforcedTerror
Hall of Fame
He's got an issue with the number 7 I guess?
There are also not one but THREE 7 times U.S champions missing.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
No Djokovic for Wimbledon even though he’s short 1 of Fed and tied with PETE and has taken Fed down in 3 straight finals ? LOL
TheNachoMan
Legend
muh level of play
abmk
Bionic Poster
Sampras is there ....
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
No. Though they both won three RG's, Kuerten never came close to making another final. Guga was 36-8 with 81.82% winning percentage at RG.
On the other hand, Lendl made two additional FO finals, he was 53-12 there. Lendl's competition was also brutal. He lost his FO finals to Borg and Wilander, two of the greatest clay courters of all time.
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Unseeded Player
Hall of Fame
And in direct H2H against Novak and Nadal he is only positive against Rafa at WB.. Other comparison he is either negative or equal
Julius Caesar
Professional
Id remove djokovic from AO too
Silverbullet96
Hall of Fame
Tennfan123
Legend
Djokovic fans are kidding themselves if they think his seven Wimbledon titles are going to ever have him considered an all time top 3 on grass.
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Hall of Fame
OP is correct, but obviously the Nolebots will throw a hissy fit lmao
Unseeded Player
Hall of Fame
How many is needed? 10?
Unseeded Player
Hall of Fame
LOL.. Never took 2 sets against Nadal there.. He only has a title thanks to Soderling.
BorgTheGOAT
Legend
Pete is No.1 at the USO
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Charlton, Law and Best.
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Deleted member 629564
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Djokovic is totally out of contention at Wimbledon because of 2 reasons:
1) he's received not enough love at SW19
2) his earnings related to his Wimbledon titles are way too low
Hence Roger Federer is the GOAT over there. Q.E.D.
everyone knows his total there is fraudulent. Literally 0 comp other than a half decent nadal a couple of times.
3)He's not on Wimby's rolex commercial
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Hall of Fame
Lmao he never played peak Fed at Wimby. 2012 is all the evidence we needed of what would happen between a peak Fed vs peak Mole match
Either a Joke or TOTAL NONSENSE!
decent win in 2011 albeit lucky to avoid federer. Owned in 12/13, deserved couple wins over slow and old fed in 14/15 with his improve grass game… complete inflation since. Escape from death in 18/19 then 21/22 the worst 2 slams probably since early 70s, tied with ao23 for how poor they were
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
Well in that case all of Carlos titles will be fraudulent as well since this era is showing to be even more pathetic and he’s playing the same ones Djoker was a few years ago (Medvedev, tstsipas, etc) and haven’t improved a lick since
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depends how the field steps up. if he wins a bunch of Wimbledons vs bums then they won’t make a dent in fed/pete status there. Hc field is stronger
Federev
Legend
You could also just go with “Roger Federer is the GOAT over there” because
-he’s won more titles than anyone,
-been in more finals than anyone,
-won more grass tournaments than anyone, and
-played a more complete and dynamic grass game than anyone,
…all of which have contributed to making him a more decorated and beloved a grass player than anyone.
See? That works even better!
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Federev
Legend
A lot more credible.
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Deleted member 629564
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I like this part. I always appreciate acknowledgement that Roger is a complete package with tennis dynamic several tiers above everyone in every way.
Nah. It's money. After all people love Roger because he's GOAT of money rankings. Sport achievements are heavily overestimated.
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