GWB's Matchplay 10/26/08

Double faulted because of that damn white tape! :p


One thing to note: I STILL rush through my serve when I intend to serve & volley. I need to fix that right away.
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
I thought it was pretty good. Seems like you have pretty solid strokes. However, you could definitely add a little more "umph" to your serve. You seem a little rushed on your serve and your ball toss is a little low it seems (maybe it just me). I would toss a little more into the court with a higher toss, and get all your weight behind the serve. This is just a suggestion, I know you know how to serve but just trying to help. Otherwise I thought you were pretty solid:)
 

Warthog

Banned
what's the deal with the "white tape"?

Video's ok but it would've been better if that other guy was serious, he can't serve that well.
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
Is it just me or does your hitting partner drop his non-hitting arm to early throughout the serve?
 
I don't see why you didnt serve and volley more when you took your friend out very wide with your serve serveral times.

Definately enjoyable to watch lol
 

fluffy Beaver

Professional
Why is it for your rally vid you play "andy" who seems to be the same level as you, but in your matchplay video you play "michael" who almost looks like a 2.5 to almost 3.0?
 

Storm_Kyori

Hall of Fame
Nice vid, I enjoy watching others playing styles and strokes. Don't you hate that too, if it wasn't for that damn white tape you'd an ace or at least a better shot. Although, I must say that it serves in handy sometimes like those drop shots that roll over. Good improvement over your last vid. Keep them coming.
 

[K]aotic

Semi-Pro
hm if you want us to really evaluate your game, you're gonna have to put up footage of you playing matches. this video was just fooling around with points. would you play like that in a tournament? didn't think so.
 
I thought it was pretty good. Seems like you have pretty solid strokes. However, you could definitely add a little more "umph" to your serve. You seem a little rushed on your serve and your ball toss is a little low it seems (maybe it just me). I would toss a little more into the court with a higher toss, and get all your weight behind the serve. This is just a suggestion, I know you know how to serve but just trying to help. Otherwise I thought you were pretty solid:)

Yes, my serve does not usually look like this, because we wanted to have fun, we served and volleyed as much as we could, and everytime I intend to serve and volley, I rush my serve and my toss is lower then usual (which is already pretty low)
 

toughshot

Rookie
Even if you don't have the greatest partner, try to play a serious match.

These points were quite lazy. Serve and volley required disciplined footwork and a split step.

Putting up a video of yourself screwing around will not help your game. In the end you have gotten 0 constructive criticism from this thread. Hope you learned.
 

Gravitation

New User
It is my honest opinion that the only way you can get positive feedback, on which to improve on, is to provide a serious video without excuses attached...

Also, it definitely helps to have a partner who is actually at or above your level (I can understand if that was not possible on the day you filmed). The video is very hard to judge because your partner has a very mediocre serve, doesn't know how to hit an approach shot (thus does not know when to come into the net), and is just not really putting much effort into the tiebreaker. No serious player tries a drop shot on the first serve unless drastic measures are required. Moreover, many of the short balls/dropshots you hit were easily reachable, but he gave up before even starting to run for them. I am not saying you are a bad player, you have some very good fundamentals (probably much better than I am), but there is no use analyzing a video when the other person just does not seem to give a damn.
 
It is my honest opinion that the only way you can get positive feedback, on which to improve on, is to provide a serious video without excuses attached...

Also, it definitely helps to have a partner who is actually at or above your level (I can understand if that was not possible on the day you filmed). The video is very hard to judge because your partner has a very mediocre serve, doesn't know how to hit an approach shot (thus does not know when to come into the net), and is just not really putting much effort into the tiebreaker. No serious player tries a drop shot on the first serve unless drastic measures are required. Moreover, many of the short balls/dropshots you hit were easily reachable, but he gave up before even starting to run for them. I am not saying you are a bad player, you have some very good fundamentals (probably much better than I am), but there is no use analyzing a video when the other person just does not seem to give a damn.

I agree, but there is no way in hell he could have gotten the first pick-up volley dropshot. He could have gotten the second one however.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
Come on guys, he got some vid out on request. It's good that he can enjoy his tennis so much. Maybe that's why he is improving so fast. That along with his constant study of info on here and other places.

Way to go G Bat!
 
Come on guys, he got some vid out on request. It's good that he can enjoy his tennis so much. Maybe that's why he is improving so fast. That along with his constant study of info on here and other places.

Way to go G Bat!

Yes, Will H's website helped me out a lot, and so did this website.

Nice comment fluffy. I love how you keep giving him a hard time.

Even the names are in quotations.... LOL

But seriously ken your making some serious improvements bro.. i suspect your entire life does involve around tennis? how many hours a day do you play?

I play on the Varsity team @ my high school, which has practice for 2 hours Monday-Friday, and 3 out of those 5 days a week after school practice, I practice with my friends. Then on weekends I usually play 7 hours a day. Only day I SOMETIMES don't ever play tennis is on Friday because I'll usually be just with my friends.
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
You really practice 7 hours? I'm a highschool player too and play varsity for my school. Fall season just ended and I'm busy with school now, so I can only play weekends. I usually play around 5-6 hours on weekends to make up for lack of practice. Not many people play tennis around here so I end up serving for 2.5 hours in the morning then 2-3 hours more in the evening. I guess I know why all the 4.0s say I have a 5.0 serve (an exaggeration I bet). Anyway, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who practices that much. All my friends think I'm crazy to spend so much time playing, but I want to play college tennis someday. I'd love to turn pro but that's only in my dreams.
 
You really practice 7 hours? I'm a highschool player too and play varsity for my school. Fall season just ended and I'm busy with school now, so I can only play weekends. I usually play around 5-6 hours on weekends to make up for lack of practice. Not many people play tennis around here so I end up serving for 2.5 hours in the morning then 2-3 hours more in the evening. I guess I know why all the 4.0s say I have a 5.0 serve (an exaggeration I bet). Anyway, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who practices that much. All my friends think I'm crazy to spend so much time playing, but I want to play college tennis someday. I'd love to turn pro but that's only in my dreams.

Yeah, fall season ended for me just last week.

And yes, I do play too much. I usually play 15+ hours combined over the weekend, plus at LEAST 15+ more hours Monday-Friday. Sounds like alot, but its really not, time flies when you play tennis.
 
It's kind of hard to get a grasp of your game from that video, but thanks for posting. Couple double faults, some drop shots. The points were short so it's rather difficult to see your point construction. And why the jumping backhand? There's a lot of flash going on there. I think your service motion is very smooth however. There's a lot of potential in that stroke.

Cheers.
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
Yeah, fall season ended for me just last week.

And yes, I do play too much. I usually play 15+ hours combined over the weekend, plus at LEAST 15+ more hours Monday-Friday. Sounds like alot, but its really not, time flies when you play tennis.

Wow, 15 hours on weekdays is great. I wish I could play that much, I'll get 3 hours if im lucky. Taking all advanced placement classes as a sophomore so I'm loaded. Also taking biology and chemistry as AP classes both in one year...and I'm beginning to regret it:-?

Btw, just completely out of curiosity, what NTRP would you say the #1 singles guy is at your school? I know Texas is a great state for tennis (Loads better than Colorado at least) and I'd like to have an idea.

Thanks:)
 

smoothtennis

Hall of Fame
Thanks for posting GWB. You sure seem to have a special fan club of haters that follow you around, LOL. You are taking it in stride - I wouldn't even comment on the nitpicky silly ones.

You have made improvements, I can see that from your other vids. This is lazy point play - I know it's for fun. But be careful what you practice. It does tend to translate at the worst times in a real match.

One comment. When coming in on short balls, you need to forget that looping whippy takeback. That works for a rally ball. Work on making short ball shots with that forehand more compact in the 'takeback'. Use short ball drills in practice, have them feed it short, and practice getting up there with the right distance from the ball, and setting up with a compact set up - then hit out nice and easy.
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
You're going to need to work on your firepower on your serve.


Also, your forehand is way too loopy for a hardcourt. It's fine when someone is hitting loopy balls back at you, allowing you plenty of time to setup. However, when you are playing against a Super 18 in TX, they'll kill you for having such a huge takeback.



I certainly wouldn't beat you in a match, but I know for sure that I would target your forehand non-stop all match. You have alot of wrist and you like to take a big cut at the ball, all which contribute to your inconsistencies with your forehand.
 

smoothtennis

Hall of Fame
Also, your forehand is way too loopy for a hardcourt. It's fine when someone is hitting loopy balls back at you, allowing you plenty of time to setup. However, when you are playing against a Super 18 in TX, they'll kill you for having such a huge takeback.

I would love to see GWB get some of that loopiness out of the forehand as well. Here is why I say this. While that loopy forehand looks very impressive against 3.5-4.0 type players - I agree it will quickly become a liability against well grooved top 4.0 forehands.

There are guys that have developed strong less complicated forehands, that can handle lots of pace and spin, such as GWB's forehand would offer. Shot after shot, all set long. They will target that forehand in a rally, waiting for it to break down on one shot. They will combine a backhand CC, with a forehand CC, and it will break down sooner as well.

I guess I am saying, GWB - your forehand will have a lower shot tolerance as you progress to higher level players. Once thing is for certain. The future always arrives. When it does, be prepared.

BTW - I would also like to say, with the amount of court time you are getting in every week, there is nothing that you cannot do. Get a specific plan of improvement together - put it on paper (seriously), and work it in phases over the year. Your improvement will be dramatic.
 

5263

G.O.A.T.
BTW - I would also like to say, with the amount of court time you are getting in every week, there is nothing that you cannot do. Get a specific plan of improvement together - put it on paper (seriously), and work it in phases over the year. Your improvement will be dramatic.

Awesome comments, especially about what you cannot do.
 
I forgot, somebody asked what NTRP the #1 at my school is.

I would argue high 5.5 low 6.0, he's nationally ranked around 200 in super champ 18's in Texas
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
I forgot, somebody asked what NTRP the #1 at my school is.

I would argue high 5.5 low 6.0, he's nationally ranked around 200 in super champ 18's in Texas

I was the one who asked, and wow that's good. :)

The best guy here is a strong 4.5 probably. Shows you the difference in tennis between states. Colorado is good for skiing and thats about it:evil:
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
oh yeah, one more question (ill probably think of more later), are you self taught or did you take lessons? Also, how many years have you been playing. Sorry for bombarding you with questions like this, but I just want to get an idea of how many years people at your level have been playing and if they spent like a million dollars on lessons when they were young.

For example, I'm self taught and have been playing for roughly 2 years, and my friend who is at the same level has had $8000 in lessons and has been playing since he was 9. He's not joking either.

Thanks:)
 
oh yeah, one more question (ill probably think of more later), are you self taught or did you take lessons? Also, how many years have you been playing. Sorry for bombarding you with questions like this, but I just want to get an idea of how many years people at your level have been playing and if they spent like a million dollars on lessons when they were young.

For example, I'm self taught and have been playing for roughly 2 years, and my friend who is at the same level has had $8000 in lessons and has been playing since he was 9. He's not joking either.

Thanks:)


Picked up first Racket January 2007.
Serious tennis May 2007.
No lessons (Private or Group)

I am PLANNING to take lessons however.
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
Awesome.

I'm debating wether to take lessons or not. I'm a strong 4.0 with good technique. Everyone who has taken lessons loves them and say they help, but 50-60 bucks an hour for coaching? Plus I have no idea how many lessons I'll need to get to where I want.

Have you heard anything from others about lessons and wether or not they're worth it, and how many lessons you'll need?
 
Awesome.

I'm debating wether to take lessons or not. I'm a strong 4.0 with good technique. Everyone who has taken lessons loves them and say they help, but 50-60 bucks an hour for coaching? Plus I have no idea how many lessons I'll need to get to where I want.

Have you heard anything from others about lessons and wether or not they're worth it, and how many lessons you'll need?

To benefit FROM THE lessons, you have to practice what you learn, on your own time, as well as when your getting lessons. If you understand that..

Basically, 1. you learn how to serve in lesson. 2. you go apply what you learned on your own time.

you get me yeah?


( so ive heard)
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
To benefit FROM THE lessons, you have to practice what you learn, on your own time, as well as when your getting lessons. If you understand that..

Basically, 1. you learn how to serve in lesson. 2. you go apply what you learned on your own time.

you get me yeah?


( so ive heard)

Exactly, thats what I thought too. Therefore, if you have good technique, then what's to practice? I mean you know your strokes, so just go practice those and keep expanding on what you have. I can't even imagine what you would want to work on, you have a solid game from what I could tell. I mean, we have this site and so far its done the trick for me. BB and others give great advice:) Not saying you shouldn't take lessons, just something to think about
 
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Exactly, thats what I thought too. Therefore, if you have good technique, then what's to practice? I can't even imagine what you would want to work on, you have a solid game from what I could tell. I mean, we have this site and so far its done the trick for me. BB and others give great advice:) Not saying you shouldn't take lessons, just something to think about

Everything. My game is horrid.

My forehand is sloppy
My backhand is inconsistent some days.
My serve lacks power, but does have placement
My footwork is REALLY sloppy

Only good thing about my game?

I have great court sense, and touch, as you could probably tell from the video. Well, maybe not so much the court sense, but touch, yeah.


If I took lessons, I would immediately go straight to my forehand and footwork. THEN serve.
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
Everything. My game is horrid.

My forehand is sloppy
My backhand is inconsistent some days.
My serve lacks power, but does have placement
My footwork is REALLY sloppy

Only good thing about my game?

I have great court sense, and touch, as you could probably tell from the video. Well, maybe not so much the court sense, but touch, yeah.


If I took lessons, I would immediately go straight to my forehand and footwork. THEN serve.

I never would have thought :-? If this is the case this is what I would suggest:
1. Make your serve a priority. I'm telling you from experience that your whole game will improve if you know you can hold your service games. You won't be pressured as much while playing and you'll actually build your mental game (at least for me). My serve is by far my biggest weapon, and as a result I'm always comfortable and relaxed because I know all I need to do is break my opponent once in each set to win:)

2. I would work on your forehand next. As you know by know, you have a pretty big take back on your forehand and its pretty wristy which will lead to inconsistency. Being 1 on 1 with a pro will help with this more than spending time on the internet. It's just one of those things

As for your backhand and footwork, I'll leave that up to you to decide if its worth the money. Ask BB for footwork drills and I'm sure he will give you great ones, and you can apply those on your own. Your backhand looked like your best wing so I'm not going to comment there; you know your abilities better than anyone.

Anyway, hope this helped. Just try to prioritize what you really need to work on and maybe in the end you can even save some money :)
 
I never would have thought :-? If this is the case this is what I would suggest:
1. Make your serve a priority. I'm telling you from experience that your whole game will improve if you know you can hold your service games. You won't be pressured as much while playing and you'll actually build your mental game (at least for me). My serve is by far my biggest weapon, and as a result I'm always comfortable and relaxed because I know all I need to do is break my opponent once in each set to win:)

2. I would work on your forehand next. As you know by know, you have a pretty big take back on your forehand and its pretty wristy which will lead to inconsistency. Being 1 on 1 with a pro will help with this more than spending time on the internet. It's just one of those things

As for your backhand and footwork, I'll leave that up to you to decide if its worth the money. Ask BB for footwork drills and I'm sure he will give you great ones, and you can apply those on your own. Your backhand looked like your best wing so I'm not going to comment there; you know your abilities better than anyone.

Anyway, hope this helped. Just try to prioritize what you really need to work on and maybe in the end you can even save some money :)

Just wondering, are you better then me? Where do you live?
 

Ballinbob

Hall of Fame
Just wondering, are you better then me? Where do you live?

No, I don't think I'm better than you, and I live in Colorado. If you were looking for advice only from people who are better than you than I'm sorry:-? It's good to hear other people's opinions, whether they're better than you or not. I can understand if I've been annoying with all my questions, so I'll buzz off now...
 
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No, I don't think I'm better than you, and I live in Colorado. If you were looking for advice only from people who are better than you than I'm sorry:-? It's good to hear other people's opinions, whether they're better than you or not. I can understand if I've been annoying with all my questions, so I'll buzz off now...

No. You took an interest in me so I thought you lived around my area, I wanted to see if you were better than me so we could have a hit.
 

J011yroger

Talk Tennis Guru
^^^ I am confused, because he said nationally ranked something, and 200 in texas?

Or 200 in the country in 18s.

J
 
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