New Prince Line: January 2009 (Pictures + Specs)
- Thread starter Chauvalito
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master_stringer_mitchy
Banned
97 Sq. Inch
27 Inch length
23 mm beam
16x20
300 Grams
An oversize version is also available
i know its proberly been said somewhere but theres 16 pages! when is this coming out and has any one tried it? thanks
servelefty2233
Rookie
Ok, I have hit with the New Graphite 100, Prince sent one to my coach. I normally use the Graphite Oversize. I only got to hit with it for a few minutes, but I really was not impressed. It had a lot more power than any of the old Graphites, and it still had that muted feel of the O3's of old.
servelefty2233
Rookie
It does. (ten)
SHRIEK
Rookie
I love the muted feel and the O ports.
Is this your opinion based on how you don't like the feel?
What would you think if you liked to O ports?
pfchang
Professional
have you tried other sticks outside of prince?
i mean it's personal preference, i was in your shoes with the SPT before i switched to the KBT.
seen this thread? http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=231467&highlight=malisse
just want some close up shots of either racket! anyone?
just want some close up shots of either racket! anyone?
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
There are many close-up pic in this thread. Check the first couple of pages.
iplaybetter
Hall of Fame
my coach/boss said hands on next week, so the wait is nearing an end in terms of someone having them hands on
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
Just a lil teaser from Prince.
Coming January 2009 - Prince Has http://www.princetennis.com/videos/coming2009/canyoufeelit.html
Coming January 2009 - Prince Has http://www.princetennis.com/videos/coming2009/canyoufeelit.html
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
Cool video...I am looking forward to the release of these rackets.
Any new reviews, the new Wilson Cobra series looks interesting as well. It seems like Wilson is going for a full on attack of Babolat with those rackets.
Steve F.
Professional
mary fierce
Banned
Is there ever a racquet introduced between 11 and 11.5 ounces that isn't seen as an "attack on Babolat"? People said this when the "carnival paint" Surge was released years ago, and many times since. Suffice it to say that 100 sq.in. racquets in that weight class are now commonplace and popular, and the province of no particular manufacturer.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
I think part of it has to do with head shape and beam width too.
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
New Prince Video detailing the new lines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXSRFqQScgg
Credit to Votin123 to posting this earlier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXSRFqQScgg
Credit to Votin123 to posting this earlier.
vmosrafa08
Semi-Pro
I didn't like the speedport technology, but I'm willing to try this... 100 posts!
Schills
Rookie
Nope. I'm diggin' em too.
Good. I really like the look of racquets where they look almost like a solid color from a far but the closer one gets the more detail there is.
-SF
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
Yeah, they're starting to grow on me too.
The original pics that we all saw looked weird, but now that we can see some real life pics of them they look sweet indeed.
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
I wonder why the video was removed. You would think Prince would want to build some hype around these rackets.
zapvor
G.O.A.T.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
How will stringing be tough? The Rebel's 18x20 pattern, or the speedports? It's going to be a 2 piece string job, so you can use a 50-50 pattern to counteract the trouble with the ports. How would these be any more difficult to string than the current O3's? Also, I think a lot of players will use the string hole set up, which makes them like stringing a normal stick.
They are not hard at all.. I just strung up a Rebel and Rebel Team for the prince rep and using the string holes they are just like any other racquet.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
That's what I thought. Thanks for the confirmation.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
Hey guys. Got to check out the new sticks today...total of 6 new racquets coming out in early 2009: the EXO3 Graphites, Rebels, Silver, and Red. The Silver and Red both have the new tech (energy channel and energy bridge). The Graphite and the Rebel do not have this tech (just more material in the ported areas of the racquet to address the lack of stability in the past player's models). I'll post specs in my next post.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
Graphite 100:
Power Level: 775
Unstrung Weight: 315 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.0cm (4 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 300
Graphite 93:
Power Level: 700
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 31.0cm (10 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 300
Rebel 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 30.0cm (14 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 300
Rebel Team 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 288 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.8cm (2 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 285
Power Level: 775
Unstrung Weight: 315 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.0cm (4 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 300
Graphite 93:
Power Level: 700
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 31.0cm (10 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 300
Rebel 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 30.0cm (14 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 300
Rebel Team 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 288 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.8cm (2 pts HL)
Swing Weight: 285
tyler_durden
New User
I'm excited for the 100 sq graphite. I doubt im gonna switch to it, but im really excited to just try it. there hasnt been a new graphite in a long time!
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the updated specs!
These specs are completely different then the ones I posted when the rackets were introduced in Japan a few months ago.
So they truly are making them heavier for the US market, very interesting. 20 grams is quite a bit of weight to add.
Themitchmann,
did you get a chance to see if the Rebel's head shape is more oblong like Head and Dunlop rackets, or is it circular like Prince rackets of old?
These specs are completely different then the ones I posted when the rackets were introduced in Japan a few months ago.
So they truly are making them heavier for the US market, very interesting. 20 grams is quite a bit of weight to add.
Themitchmann,
did you get a chance to see if the Rebel's head shape is more oblong like Head and Dunlop rackets, or is it circular like Prince rackets of old?
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
Also the unstrung balance is quite head light unstrung for the Rebel 95. When strung it may be 10 to 11 points headlight which seems high for a players stick.
Today, I saw all the Prince racquets at a shop and wrote down the specs. All specs were taken with a Babolat RDC except for the static weights. A digital scale was used for that.
My additions are for STRUNG racquets and are in "BOLD".
Graphite 100:
Power Level: 775
Unstrung Weight: 315 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.0cm (4 pts HL)
Strung weight: 11.8 oz.
Strung Balance: 2 pts. HL
Stiffness: 65
Swing Weight: 328
Graphite 93:
Power Level: 700
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 31.0cm (10 pts HL)
Strung Weight: 12.35 oz.
Strung Balance: 9 pts. HL
Stiffness: 66
Swing Weight: 325
Rebel 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 30.0cm (14 pts HL)
Strung Weight: 12.41 oz.
Strung Balance: 10 pts. HL
Stiffness: 60
Swing Weight: 331
Rebel Team 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 288 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.8cm (2 pts HL)
Strung Weight: 10.75 oz.
Strung Balance: 1 pt. HH
Stiffness: 62
Swing Weight: 323
Both Rebel frames were strung with the new Poly EXO 17g/Premier 16 LT hybrid and both Graphites were strung with the new Premier LT (Linear Technology) 16g strings.
My additions are for STRUNG racquets and are in "BOLD".
Graphite 100:
Power Level: 775
Unstrung Weight: 315 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.0cm (4 pts HL)
Strung weight: 11.8 oz.
Strung Balance: 2 pts. HL
Stiffness: 65
Swing Weight: 328
Graphite 93:
Power Level: 700
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 31.0cm (10 pts HL)
Strung Weight: 12.35 oz.
Strung Balance: 9 pts. HL
Stiffness: 66
Swing Weight: 325
Rebel 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 330 grams
Unstrung Balance: 30.0cm (14 pts HL)
Strung Weight: 12.41 oz.
Strung Balance: 10 pts. HL
Stiffness: 60
Swing Weight: 331
Rebel Team 95:
Power Level: 750
Unstrung Weight: 288 grams
Unstrung Balance: 33.8cm (2 pts HL)
Strung Weight: 10.75 oz.
Strung Balance: 1 pt. HH
Stiffness: 62
Swing Weight: 323
Both Rebel frames were strung with the new Poly EXO 17g/Premier 16 LT hybrid and both Graphites were strung with the new Premier LT (Linear Technology) 16g strings.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
The Rebels are more oblong for sure. The Graphite are pretty much identical to their predecessors in terms of head shape. And I agree the Rebel's balance is a little odd. I think they wanted to allow some room for customization.
kaibaNYC06
Rookie
I got to hit with three of the racquets today (Graphite 100, and both rebels, my my co-worker wanted to try out the mid :???
. Anyways I ended up really liking the rebel TEAM 95. It felt incredibly solid for such a light racquet, and I was generating crazy racquet head speed. Did anyone else feel this way?Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
Thanks for the updated specs. The rebel 95 seems quite hefty but with that balance I don't think it would be to hard to handle for an advanced player.
Also the graphite's are quite stiff, I wonder why the rebels were not made as stiff?
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
Very true, and the massive holes in the top of the frame also decrease the weight in the head of the racket as well.
I really want to have a hit with the new rebel, especially now since the US specs are heavier. It may be a solid hit right out of the box. I prefer balances between 5 and 7, but this might work due to the high static weight.
Chauvalito
Hall of Fame
I got to hit with three of the racquets today (Graphite 100, and both rebels, my my co-worker wanted to try out the mid :???
Thanks for the quick review kaiba.
Does the rebel team also have an 18x20 string pattern?
kaibaNYC06
Rookie
Yup the team also has an 18X20 pattern. I'm probly gonna try the stick for a few more days, and maybe try the graphite100 again. I didn't really give it a fair run as I was too interested in the rebel team.:-?
Bash and Crash
Semi-Pro
played with a top Aussie junior(visiting calif.) who had a new prince model, but was still black and experimental logoed and it was a longbody version of the exo 100 nice stick, so expect that also.....
mohawktennis
New User
the weights listed for the rebels and the graphites are wrong. for instance the rebel 95 unstrung weight is 330G not 310 and the graphite 100 is 315G not 310.
themitchmann
Hall of Fame
That's because the specs on here were from the Japanese site...now that the sticks have made their way to the states, and we've gotten to check them out in person, we've realized that the US specs are different than the Asian models. This thread has been going for a while now...
Chauvalito did a great job running this thread and the specs were up to date as soon as we got to examine the US sticks.
