What's Simon mindset when he goes against Federer?
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All-rounder
Legend
errrrrrrrr PUSH.......:roll:
zambo
Banned
Now, now, no need to be bitter!
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Get the ball back and wait until Fed loses patience (hint: he loses patience easily)
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Well, at least he plays tennis and is fun to watch-that cant be said of pusher-picker from the island
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
I dont, i wouldnt even wanna watch a match with Simon unless he plays Fed or unless im betting on it. Federer however, is a lot more fun to watch than Nadal. Nadal, effective? Yes. Fun to watch? Nooo...hooo...ooo!
zambo
Banned
What's soo boring with Nadal? i think he's great to watch. Federer's game is not my cup of tea to be honest.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Federer may be a lot of things (a magician of precision :wink:, a winning machine, a talented player, etc) but one thing he's NOT for sure is "fun". I can actually think of very few things that would be less fun than Fed (a prison cell? A church graveyard?) Happy Halloween by the way!
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Listen, i can respect what Nadal has done on a tenniscourt. He uses what he got to the limits, but it has already starting to cost him dearly (hint:injuries) but I find his style of play extremely boring, Federers game is a beauty to watch imo. His technique is the best the world has ever seen and he floats around on court effoertlessly.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Well i respect your opinion, although I hugely disagree. You have your "taste", ive got mine.Federer may be a lot of things (a magician of precision :wink:, a winning machine, a talented player, etc) but one thing he's NOT for sure is "fun". I can actually think of very few things that would be less fun than Fed (a prison cell? A church graveyard?) Happy Halloween by the way!
Happy Halloween to you to
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
He is a goodlooking dude, hes got a nice body, hes a tennislegend, but P L E A S E do NOT say he is exciting to watch, youre gonna give me a heartattack girl ! :shock:
zambo
Banned
A lot of fellas believe that Federer is never passive with his play. Well, he slices almost ever return when played to his backhand playing agaisnt the big servers and that is real boring imo.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
His technique is also very repetitive and tedious, shall we say surgical and passionless as well? And given the # of UEs he's had in his matches this year maybe he should stop floating and get glasses to keep the ball within the lines more often!
valiant
Hall of Fame
nice way to put it :twisted:
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Come on man thats unfair, you cant judge a player as boring over using a great tactic, not boring, smart, it obviously works.
:shock:
zambo
Banned
You missed one thing, he has a nice personality and is very genuine.
zambo
Banned
Really? Slicing every return is a tactic? I'm pretty positive it's more the fact that he doesn't want to take the ball early and become agressive.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Basically-if you go for it! Youre not always gonna make it! Ever heard of high-percentage shotmaking? Low-percentage shotmaking? Winning 15 Slams takes a lot more than "UE:s" and "floating".
Well if Fed needs glasses im gonna send Nadal a pair of Bjorn Borg underwear, the ones I use, they feel great to the body
And maybe he needs a Swiss watch!? How about that?:twisted:
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Slice blocking a huge serve is imo the best tactics and you are gonna make a lot more than had he gone for a backhand swing
Especially if you know your opponent isnt gonna come to the net.
zambo
Banned
Basically-if you go for it! Youre not always gonna make it! Ever heard of high-percentage shotmaking? Low-percentage shotmaking? Winning 15 Slams takes a lot more than "UE:s" and "floating".
Well if Fed needs glasses im gonna send Nadal a pair of Bjorn Borg underwear, the ones I use, they feel great to the body
:twisted:
lol...You are quite funny...Although maybe I need to send Federer a box of tissues next time he plays Nadal in a slam final incase, you know...
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Uhrm...no i didnt, i disagree.
He is only nice when he wins, when he loses he starts making excuses and becomes very grumpy (lots of players do)
jamesblakefan#1
G.O.A.T.
How the hell did this turn into another Fed vs Nadal thread?.....
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Yeah im a funny dude ! :twisted:
In case he breaks some sweat? Good idea.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
A nice body? That's a little tame to speak about Nadal, no?
Nadal is not "good-looking", Nadal is sex on legs and sexiness is an attitude, not a look. But that's not the reason why he's the most exciting tennis player ever. The reason is his intensity on every point, his fighting spirit, the way he wears down his opponents mentally and physically, the way he expresses his emotions, the explosiveness of his passing shots, his level of energy and passion during a match.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
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I might be responsible for that, sorry man
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Cesc Fabregas
Legend
Nadal is not boring to watch, he isn't a generic baseliner like Simon, he turns defence into attack better than anyone.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Uhrm...the first part of your post im not gonna comment on, that would feel weird imo :shock:A nice body? That's a little tame to speak about Nadal, no?
Nadal is not "good-looking", Nadal is sex on legs and sexiness is an attitude, not a look. But that's not the reason why he's the most exciting tennis player ever. The reason is his intensity on every point, his fighting spirit, the way he wears down his opponents mentally and physically, the way he expresses his emotions, the explosiveness of his passing shots, his level of energy and passion during a match.
The rest, well yes, he is intense, he is passionate, he has to be because he hasnt got the game to steamroll anyone (except on clay) like Federer does, that my friend is why his 23 year old body slowly (or mybe even rapidly) is starting to break down, if you havent noticed, Nadal is gonna have to find a more effective way of winning his matches if he wants to play tennis after his 25th birthday, this is not bashing, this is a fact.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
I think he is, Pete was 10 times more fun to watch than Nadal.
Nadal is the 2000`s answer to the 1980`s Mats Wilander, effective but boring.
edberg505
Legend
Because Nadal's game is pretty darn predictable. Esp. when he plays someone with a one handed backhand. Forehands cross court, get a short reply go for a winner. Rinse and repeat. I don't think I've ever seen Federer employ the same game plan often.
zambo
Banned
Does it not just show how willing Nadal is? How hard it he works? He's a machine, never cuts corners.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
It does, he is. I never questioned that, but at 23 years old he is starting to pay dearly for it.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I'd rather take sheer excitement for 5 years than dull tennis for 10. Whatever happens to Nadal's body, he should have no regrets. He's given us the most dramatic, spectacular, challenging and entertaining matches of the decade. I wouldn't trade them for cold efficiency for anything in the world. I treasure the memory of each one of those matches, the best moments this sport has offered me.
zambo
Banned
Yep, quality over quantity.
TheFifthSet
Legend
It's all about preference I would say. I prefer watching Federer's game to Nadal's game ten-fold, but I don't find Nadal boring.
Just curiously, what is it about Nadal's game that captivates you? I don't really see anything unique about his game; he's like Muster basically, except he does just about everything better.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Really? Because personally, I've never seen Federer using a plan B, much less C or D. The only thing I've seen is Federer losing matches when his plan A was not working.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
Alright, i can respect that. Sure !
Everyone has their personal favourite.
Although the way you write it sounds as if the whole world share your opinions Lol
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Baikalic
Semi-Pro
Dude...insults are not necessary in expressing dislike for a player.
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TheMagicianOfPrecision
Guest
You are right, that was uncalled for.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
What captivates you? Big serves? Lots of things make Rafa's game fun : the way he turns defense into offense, the effect he puts on the ball, his speed around the court and how he counters drop shots and volleys, his fantastic overheads, the way he can hit passing shots in virtually any position and from anywhere, his banana shots are some of the most entertainining shots I've seen in tennis so far.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
LiveForever
Banned
I like Nadal a lot and respect his game. However, I prefer Federers game much more. The reason is that Federer plays true offensive tennis unlike Nadal. You cant even argue this fact as Federer is one of those guys who almost always finishes the match with way more winners than errors. Federer hits shots that are mind blowing to me as tennis player. You have to play the sport to see what I mean. His control of the racket head is brilliant and his forehand is mesmerizing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_y4QqIpNY
I can watch this for hours. It makes me wanna grab my racket and hit the courts even though it is raining.
LiveForever
Banned
Oh and to the OP, Simon is nothing special. His two wins over Federer are hardly amazing. The first win was in 2008 when Federer returned from his crushing defeat at Wimbledon and TMC 2008 wasnt exactly Federer at his best either.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
I like Nadal a lot and respect his game. However, I prefer Federers game much more. The reason is that Federer plays true offensive tennis unlike Nadal. You cant even argue this fact as Federer is one of those guys who almost always finishes the match with way more winners than errors. Federer hits shots that are mind blowing to me as tennis player. You have to play the sport to see what I mean. His control of the racket head is brilliant and his forehand is mesmerizing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el_y4QqIpNY
I can watch this for hours. It makes me wanna grab my racket and hit the courts even though it is raining.
Fed has amazing racquet control, that's an excellent point but it's also a technicality. Federer is very good at hitting textbook shots to perfection but he's not the one I would turn to for out of the book shots. True offensive = too offensive for me, either a long series of big serves (yawn) or high risk play with a high chance of UEs if one is just a tiny bit off that day. I much prefer variety, I find high quality defense very entertaining. I find players who transition easily from one to the other more fun to watch. The rallies are gonna be more spectacular and less "mechanic" than systematic moving forward and going for winners (hit or miss). I've also always preferred players who like to construct points vs players who rush to attack without discrimination (I'm not saying that's typically Fed's case although he lacks patience sometimes).
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