After the 1st point and every 4 points thereafter.
Thank you. Why do they changeover after 1 point? Doesn't make sense to me really. In the singles they don't change over on uneven points.
Your "legend" status makes me question whether you really need an answer, ..
Your "legend" status makes me question whether you really need an answer, but.....
changing sides at 1 then every four keeps each player serving in their same location as during the set.
It is the Coman(spelling) tie break.....
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USTA matches started using the Coman tiebreak rules in 2010 where you change after the first point and then every four points after that. This change was made for both doubles and singles, set tiebreaks and match tiebreaks (10 pointers). The change makes more sense for doubles matches since it keeps players serving from the same side and facing the same conditions (sun, wind) as they did during the set (i.e. if a doubles player served from the 'north' side of the court during the set, the player would continue to serve from only that side during the tiebreak).
Are you talking about ATP/WTA doubles, or USTA League doubles?
In ATP/WTA and a regular match tiebreak, they switch just like in a set tiebreak, after every 6 points.
In the Coman tiebreak which is used I think pretty exclusively in USTA League play, it is after the first point, then every 4 points from then on.
Thank you. I was talking about the ATP. i don't play tennis myself, nor am I from the USA. I was wondering, because I was watching the super tiebreak in chennai final. So it's just every six points?
I dislike the coman tiebreak. I thought it was coleman. Never saw it in writing before. I just heard it spoken and I misheard.
I understand but disagree with the point that it "makes sense" in doubles if you have a lefty and a righty playing together. I kind of like changing the end I serve from during the tiebreak. Kind of makes it fun. I think coman tiebreak is a huge waste of time. Way too much changing sides.
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Last time I checked, tennis playing was not a prerequisite to joining this forum.Sorry. I guess I'm a little confused / old fashioned regarding this "whole internet thing". Why would you bother to chat/reply/post almost 7 times per day t osomething you don't play.
I'm not being flippant here. It just seems odd to me.
Per your own posting - my content is elementary and knowledge is only slightly better....
Joer - not "calling you out" just a surprise.....
Last time I checked, tennis playing was not a prerequisite to joining this forum.
For the righty playing with lefty advantage, I don't see what's so tough about serving from both ends of the court in the tiebreak only. I play singles and doubles, and singles players don't get to do all their serving from only the end of their choice. I actually ENJOY getting in a long doubles tie break and having to serve from the other end a few times. I think it's pusillanimous to only be able or willing to serve from just one end. I don't care what the conditions are. Adapt. It makes it more fun.
Forget the righty/lefty combo thing for a moment:
As for the change at 1 and then every 4 vs change at 6, I say
I don't really think 6 points in a row from only one end is unfair. It's still hard to win 6 in a row even with wind/sun advantage. Plus, then you change sides for the next six so it even out pretty good. It's really cool when you exceed 12 points and change at least twice. I've played on some really bad courts that face right into the sun at sunrise and sunset. It's pretty terrible on one end. You can still hold serve from that side. You can still break from that side. I can even say there's more pressure to win games and TB points on the good side, because if/when you do lose that mini break and change sides, you're into the sun and in some trouble.It's weird, but the other day I played a match in those conditions and the person on the so called bad end kept winning each game. Maybe it was mental.
I'm confused how it can both be better and worse to face the sun at the same time...more pressure on the good side yet in "trouble" on the bad side. I'll take the pressure side.
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Whoa.... I'm not trying to be "that guy". I just thought it a bit odd. I'm glad to know that this site holds people who have such a high level of non playing interest.
Let me be more clear: Joelr, I apologize if I offended you in any way. I just thought it odd, as I stated above.
If you've got this level of interest(aal the posts), pick up a racquet! It is a great sport! And, every once in a while, ATP chair umpires keep the discussion focused.....