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A better thread name could be Mikelers Soft Polys
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A better thread name could be Mikelers Soft Polys
If you want some string to try, let me know and I'll send you some. I'm never going to run out. Email me at PVStringing @ gmail . com and I'll send you what I give my customers. Not posting it here for...reasonsAfter stringing up a Recoil/MCS hybrid last night, I'm completely out of string at the house except for an old set of Gamma Zo Power laying around that I don't plan on using. Time to order some more.
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As a lover of softer polys, I'll be here reading and posting!
If you want some string to try, let me know and I'll send you some. I'm never going to run out. Email me at PVStringing @ gmail . com and I'll send you what I give my customers. Not posting it here for...reasons
Nope, that's not it . I explained in the email, and it'd be a pretty useless test if you didn't post what the string that you're testing is. So yep, post away!So am I not allowed to tell people the name after I try it? Nevermind, I understand now. The conspiracy theorists will come out and accuse you of hawking Brand X. I have PayPal so I can buy some string off you. I'll send you an e-mail about it. Thanks buddy.
What's MB, Mosquito Bite? If so, I entirely agree. My sister who plays some serious tennis actually hated the MB. She thought it felt like mush when crossed with Laserfibre SNGPS. I think that's a string that WC came out with...because they could. It's as soft as Scorpion, but not as lively, doesn't have the spin of any of their other strings (I'd say equal or less than Silverstring) and holds tension the worst of any WC I've strung to date. Now, to be fair, the worst tension stability for a WeissCannon string is like talking about the least reliable Honda or Subaru.Everybody looking for soft polys should check*:
BHB/Topspin CB
Energy
Scorpion
Hyperion
MB
and both Mantis strings.
If they're not soft enough than... time to test some hybrids ;-)
(*based on strings that i ACTUALLY tried).
What's MB, Mosquito Bite? If so, I entirely agree. My sister who plays some serious tennis actually hated the MB. She thought it felt like mush when crossed with Laserfibre SNGPS. I think that's a string that WC came out with...because they could. It's as soft as Scorpion, but not as lively, doesn't have the spin of any of their other strings (I'd say equal or less than Silverstring) and holds tension the worst of any WC I've strung to date. Now, to be fair, the worst tension stability for a WeissCannon string is like talking about the least reliable Honda or Subaru.
I don't think so. I think MB is softer, but it is also less responsive. Then again, MSV Hex 17 plays great while the 1.10 is sinful. :-?I agree. It is definitely soft, and at the bottom of WC's tension stability ranks.
Now that I've used Scorpion 1.22 as well, MB could just be the thinner offering of it? Since it only comes in 1.16...
Yea the forten broke. Thats ok my arm feels fine with the energy in the mains, it only started giving me trouble when I moved the tension up over 58.
I started the energy at 50 and the crosses at 52, played through 3 rackets like that, no pain.
Moved the energy to 55 and the crosses to 57, played through 3 rackets no pain.
Moved the energy to 59 and the crosses to 61 played through 3 rackets, some pain but nothing that lasted through a nights sleep.
Then I changed the crosses to mantis power multi and that caused some pain.
So I switched to an all multi setup for a few weeks, then I added the energy back in in the crosses, now the energy is back in the mains but I am going to keep it around 55.
Spikey shark is another one you might want to try, its fairly soft and great for spin. Pretty average in other areas though.
I loved hexablade, it had great spin potential and i found it easy on the arm dispite not having a particularly low RSI stiffness rating, but i know pvaudio didnt like it in a hybrid so unless your willing to go full bed it might not be worth it.
and i plan on trying SP tornado soon in either a hybrid or full bed so ill let you know what thats like
Of the few copolys i've played with here are my favorite setups.
1 - Solinco Tour Bite 58lbs with Vanquish 60lbs
2 - Solinco Revolution 58lbs with TrueFeel 60lbs
3 - TopSpin Max Rotation full bed 58lbs
Due to an arm injury unrelated to tennis, I am going to natty gut this week. Will keep an eye on this thread for tension suggestions and string combo's for when I can go back to the spin friendly copolys.
If you want to try some soft full multi beds for awhile get a hold of Mantis Comfort Synthetic, Babolat Xcel or Pro Supex Maxim Touch. Gut will be best if you can afford it.
My stringer also mentioned both Xcel and Maxim if not gut. Seems you two think alike.
Gut $ is not an issue for me thankfully, so gut it is.
Mikeler, can you make a comparison between Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour?
Mikeler, can you make a comparison between Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour?
Mikeler, can you make a comparison between Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour?
I will, to save Mikeler's arm.
PH (non-tour) is soft. One of the more forgiving polyesters, but tension hold is not one of its strong suits. Can be compared to the softer list of polyesters mentioned earlier in this thread, but cannot compete with Weisscannon when price and tension maintenance are concerned. Average spin and decent control, nothing to write home about.
PHT is super stiff, dies after about 4 hours (less for some). When fresh it does have good power and control, but still, a very stiff poly and mostly outdated "1st generation" poly technology when compared to what's available today.
I pretty much found the same things when I used them (was asking to make sure I'm not crazy ) Which string from WeissCANNON would you recommend an aggressive all-courter with a one-handed backhand 4.5 thirteen-year-old use?I will, to save Mikeler's arm.
PH (non-tour) is soft. One of the more forgiving polyesters, but tension hold is not one of its strong suits. Can be compared to the softer list of polyesters mentioned earlier in this thread, but cannot compete with Weisscannon when price and tension maintenance are concerned. Average spin and decent control, nothing to write home about.
PHT is super stiff, dies after about 4 hours (less for some). When fresh it does have good power and control, but still, a very stiff poly and mostly outdated "1st generation" poly technology when compared to what's available today.
I'm just starting out this venture into polys so I can't help you out now. Hopefully as I progress then I can contribute more to the knowledge base here. I'm sure there are plenty of folks here who will be able to give you a good opinion.
I pretty much found the same things when I used them (was asking to make sure I'm not crazy ) Which string from WeissCANNON would you recommend an aggressive all-courter with a one-handed backhand 4.5 thirteen-year-old use?
Would you say then that TT is more like Black Savage and B5E is more like PH Regular?Black5Edge or Turbo Twist. TT is more powerful and comfy, B5E more control and pretty soft for a copoly
I will, to save Mikeler's arm.
PH (non-tour) is soft. One of the more forgiving polyesters, but tension hold is not one of its strong suits. Can be compared to the softer list of polyesters mentioned earlier in this thread, but cannot compete with Weisscannon when price and tension maintenance are concerned. Average spin and decent control, nothing to write home about.
PHT is super stiff, dies after about 4 hours (less for some). When fresh it does have good power and control, but still, a very stiff poly and mostly outdated "1st generation" poly technology when compared to what's available today.
Oh lord no. TT is a soft, powerful poly that gives you very nice spin from all parts of the court. It's basically Pro Hurricane but softer, better spin, MUCH more power, better control...better everything. B5E is, IMO, the most unique string on the market right now. It doesn't feel like anything else.Would you say then that TT is more like Black Savage and B5E is more like PH Regular?
Oh lord no. TT is a soft, powerful poly that gives you very nice spin from all parts of the court. It's basically Pro Hurricane but softer, better spin, MUCH more power, better control...better everything. B5E is, IMO, the most unique string on the market right now. It doesn't feel like anything else.
Would you say then that TT is more like Black Savage and B5E is more like PH Regular?
Oh lord no. TT is a soft, powerful poly that gives you very nice spin from all parts of the court. It's basically Pro Hurricane but softer, better spin, MUCH more power, better control...better everything. B5E is, IMO, the most unique string on the market right now. It doesn't feel like anything else.
I mostly hit with the Prince Recoil/MCS hybrid last night but I did spend a few more minutes with B5E/MCS. Maybe I need to try a different cross string as recommended by Bad_Call who sold me the half set. The setup is good but the spin potential is not as high as I would expect.
Personally, I cannot stand it. It feels very board-like to me. Genesis strings aren't typically tension temperamental, and I did string it at ~60lbs, so perhaps the tension was simply too high.Genesis Black Magic looks like a reasonable price and rodrigoamaral likes it. Anyone else play with this?
Personally, I cannot stand it. It feels very board-like to me. Genesis strings aren't typically tension temperamental, and I did string it at ~60lbs, so perhaps the tension was simply too high.
Genesis Black Magic looks like a reasonable price and rodrigoamaral likes it. Anyone else play with this?
Loving it in the prestige. insane pocketing and durability has been awesome at this tension.
I figured as much. This was, however, quite some time ago that I did this.You need to string it at 50#s. It should not be boardy at all. It has incredible pocketing. Unless you are on the tour, stringng full poly at 60#s is a bad idea.
A softer poly than PH??? :shock: Can you elaborate more on B5E? Also, I'm about to playtest MCS Mains/ALU Power Rough Crosses. What tension do you recommend?Oh lord no. TT is a soft, powerful poly that gives you very nice spin from all parts of the court. It's basically Pro Hurricane but softer, better spin, MUCH more power, better control...better everything. B5E is, IMO, the most unique string on the market right now. It doesn't feel like anything else.
I'm looking for something soft, but very lively (No arm problems and I am able to string poly around 60 lbs). Is TT lively?If you want softer than PH, PS Energy is the softest. However, tension hold is not so great, drops off after about 4-6 hours. But, it is the #1 comfort poly for sure.