If there was an indoor grand slam would nadal still dominate Federer?
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BreakPoint
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BreakPoint
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Oh, so you're saying that the number of Slams is more important than H2H in determining who's better?
Thanks for letting us know.
leroy_sunset
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Qubax
Professional
Exactly...
MAYBE Nadal would reach the Final once in a banner year. Otherwise he'd be in danger of losing where from the Semis and before.
So when Fed doesn't have to face Rafa in the final he's a HUGE favorite
ZeroSkid
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Oh, so you're saying that the number of Slams is more important than H2H in determining who's better?
Thanks for letting us know.
no i am saying you need to have both
ZeroSkid
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aren't the first two wins lol, wow u fail
Oh, so you're saying that the number of Slams is more important than H2H in determining who's better?
Thanks for letting us know.
Haha, you are owning this ZeroSkidmark knob, congrats sir.
PrinceMoron
Legend
Yes, and I was there. Kind of felt sorry for him.
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BreakPoint
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And why does that matter? By your logic, doesn't that make Nadal a sore winner? Nothing worse in sports.
BreakPoint
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I think what you're really saying is that you're a clueless troll still living with your mommy.
ZeroSkid
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I think what you're really saying is that you're a clueless troll still living with your mommy.
lol love how you can't argue anymore, good try though
SLD76
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lol love how you can't argue anymore, good try though
you cant argue with stupidity, its pointless.
BreakPoint
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No reason to argue with someone who already lost the argument from their 1st post. But go ahead and keep arguing. That's what simple minded people do.lol love how you can't argue anymore, good try though
sunof tennis
Professional
And not succeeding as usual.
yep...........
True, but he's good for comic relief if nothing else.
tennismastermine
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no, no way, we all know that federers favorite surface is indoor hard courts
Raging Buddha
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ZeroSkid
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no it is grass
90's Clay
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Nadal could still beat Roger.. I'm not sure about 'dominate' however.. The YEC is always a time when Nadal almost throws the towel in. The one year he truly committed himself to it ( I think it was 2010?) he and Roger went to the final set. Best of 5 sets Nadal could best him a few times just based on the fact Nadal has the ability to make fed his pigeon mentally
ZeroSkid
Banned
+1.............
pame
Hall of Fame
Poor you! Your man's non-performance at Wimbledon vs Fed's stellar achievements is really discombobulating you - lol
Feather
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YellowBall77
Banned
Obviously it would favor Fed..but Im still not sure he would win in a best of 5 at this point vs. Nadal. Whats his best of 5 record vs Nadal...has he ever beaten in him outside of Wimby in that format?
BreakPoint
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Yes, Federer beat Nadal at Miami in 2005 when the final was still best of 5.
ZeroSkid
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and Nadal beat Federer in 2004 in straight sets when nadal was 17 or 18 looooooooooooooool
Then you've just also "proved" that Rosol is better than Nadal, that Davydenko is better than Nadal, etc.
And Hrbaty is without a doubt, the GOAT!!!!!!
Cup8489
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And Federer beat Nadal in straight sets in the middle of Rafa's prime in IW... one of the slowest hardcourt surfaces out there.
What's your point, Skidmark?
augustobt
Legend
You forgot to mention that Nadal was 2-0 up and that was the only time that happened.
bluescreen
Hall of Fame
I'm leaning towards this response. People cite Federer's dominance over Nadal at the WTF as proof Federer would most likely win in an indoor slam. But I think that dominance has more to do with the timing of the event (at the very end of the season when Nadal is burnt out) than the surface, necessarily.
The-Champ
Legend
If you put it in the beginning of the year, there's a bigger probability that Rafa might win. I don't believe it's the fast surface that makes Nadal unable to win on indoor courts. With the amount of running he does in the first half of the season, he is always gassed by the time the WTF comes.
No, Nadal struggles on fast low bouncing conditions. The Rosol match at Wimbledon this year wasn't an aberration. Nadal has always struggled with big hitters in the first week at Wimbledon when the grass still plays like.... well, grass.
SLD76
G.O.A.T.
rosol begs to differ.
BullDogTennis
Hall of Fame
the claycourt season isn't that long....
BreakPoint
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And since when was that a best of 5 set match? :???:
Oh, and Federer had the flu at the time and considered not even playing the match.
BreakPoint
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Um...the question was if Federer had ever beaten Nadal in a best of 5 set non-Slam match, NOT who won which sets.
billnepill
Hall of Fame
Yep, that's why he took a month off last time and was still humiliated at WTF.
BreakPoint
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Nadal is not "gassed" enough to win RG and Wimbledon back-to-back in 2008 and 2010 with only a 2 week break in between but he's too "gassed" to win the WTF when it's almost 3 months from the last Major (US Open)?
VPhuc tennis fan
Professional
Before I get into the discussion, I'd like to know if YOU are NSK, TDK, 6-3 6-1 6-0 or the same individual with a different username. Please enlighten me.
I have the feeling this thread will turn into something like
"Nadal is a beast, he is invicible, he is this, he is that, and for all the what-if, Fed would NEVER have had one GS title if Nadal had been or peaked 5 years earlier".
VPhuc tennis fan
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Cup8489
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Also mustnt forget 3 majors on 3 different surfaces in a row, first player ever or something.
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
3 majors lost in the final in a row, too. I'm sure we can find loads of impressive records if we start digging...
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