so pacific has cortex now?
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Launching the new PACIFIC BX2 Racket Collection in January 2013, here's the 1st preview on our 'BX2 X FORCE Pro' frame!
Get XCited!!
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Can anyone make out the stiffness on the X Force Pro (16x20)? The image gets too blurry when I zoom in on it.
mike_l, from where did you get the brochure?
So they have Cortex.... AND Basalt... Best of both worlds lol.
I think the stiffness is 65 mate.
Thanks. That's what I thought it said but wasn't 100% certain.
Interesting that, according to the brochure, the X Force Pro (16x20) and X Force have the 'Zero Tolerance', but the X Force Pro (18x20) does not. I wonder why?
That is interesting. Zero Tolerance came about with the "green/yellow" Magnetic Speed Pro No 1's as far I recall. The earlier "green/red" version was +/- 6 grams, and had the current throat design (as did the "green'yellow").
Unless my eyes (and the blurry pics) are playing tricks on me, the 18x20 frame looks different from it 16x20 siblings at the throat, with a design that goes back to the pre M-Speed style. Those racquets still usually had weight well within the stated range. It does look like the frame is slightly different beyond the string pattern.
I think they'll still offer a newer version of the Comp. The catalog showed only their tour series. I would imagine Pacific will still offer a game improvement type series.
McLovin,
So are you actually interested in checking out any of of these upcoming Pacific rackets? I was a big fan of the X Force Pro and see it as such an underrated frame. Real quality for sure. Just a bit too demanding for me sadly.
Yeah, my X Force Pros are getting a bit beat up (it's been 18 months), so its time to do a little window shopping. I've got a bunch of frames I'm going to try over the next few months, then make a decision on whether to (a) get the latest X Force Pro, (b) get replacements of the ones I use, or (c) go to something completely different.
Right now, given how well I'm playing, I'd be crazy to do anything but 'b', but you know how it goes: See something new and you just can't resist trying it. Even if you know it is the exact same frame w/ a different paint job...
Currently, my demo list is:
- Yonex VCORE 97 Tour (310g)
- Yonex VCORE 97 Tour (330g)
- Donnay Pro One (16x19)
- Dunlop F 3.0 Tour
But I will be adding both X Force Pros (16x20 & 18x20) to that list once they come out.
No, there is no such thing as 'Cortex' on a Pacific/Fischer.
And as far as 'Basalt', that was put into the final line of Fischer racquets (then called 'Black Granite'), and the first line of Pacifics was essentially a paint job of the Black Granite line.
Actually, if you look closely at the hoop of the X Force Pro, you can see the words 'Black Granite'.
Its a joke... Wilson+Babolat....
i am actually a fan of pacific frames. the guys that run the company are really straightforward and easy to get ahold of. I think cosmetically they are among the nicest looking frames on the market. Nice frames.. they just play a little stiffer than I like.
Definitely never heard anybody say that about a later model fischer or pacific. It's usually "way too soft for me". I actually hope this new model is stiffer because I never really had any complaints about my old M Pro 1 except I just wish it had a tad more oomph.
The Comp was a real disappointment to me. It just felt so different from from the M-Speed Pro No 1 105 -- a little stiff, pingy and lacking the uber-solid yet plush feeling of the original Fischer. Worse, they never offered a version with specs equivalent to the 105 SL -- which was a real winner. Surprising since the X-Forces and X-Feel Pros are so true to their ancestors. Maybe the 2013 line will correct this.
this is interesting to hear about the comp since i saw it as a current replacement for the m-speed 105 ligth . did you ever try to match the specs on the comp to the specs of the mspeed 105 sl ?
04-21-2006, 09:02 AMEliteNinja,
Can Basalt Fibers be used in tennis rackets?
Can you compare/ relate Basalt Fibers to Glass Fibers and Kevlar?
Interesting that Pacific isn't really changing the cosmetics with this new line. Pretty much the same paintjobs but with a newly formulated type of basalt fiber. Much different than other manufacturers, who take every opportunity to trot out new paintjobs with insignificant new tech.
Couldnt agree more. I also think that Pacific deserves credit for putting lots of advanced technology in their frames that seems to actually work. And I like how they keep improving it.
IMO, Pacific is one of the few racquet manufacturers whose frames offer both: the maneuverability, spin-friendliness and power of modern sticks and yet the superb feel, stability and control of more traditional racquets.
As you mentioned, it’s great to see that Pacific doesn’t bother changing the looks of their racquets every new season, unlike many other companies. I think that puts even more focus on the excellent performance of their racquets and on the enhanced tech.
Tennisspieler - while I can agree in general with your statements, I do get the impression that you are not just a "regular" customer (of Pacific frames).
Could it be that you're on Pacific's payroll? If so, this information would be appreciated on this board.
Thanks for the inquiry, Alex78. No, I am just a regular club Tennis player. No involvement with Pacific whatsoever. After demoing the racquets, I really liked them so I decided to share my impressions of what I consider to be good and fairly underrated frames.
Thanks, Tennisspieler - so no inside information to be expected from you...
Couldnt agree more. I also think that Pacific deserves credit for putting lots of advanced technology in their frames that seems to actually work. And I like how they keep improving it.
IMO, Pacific is one of the few racquet manufacturers whose frames offer both: the maneuverability, spin-friendliness and power of modern sticks and yet the superb feel, stability and control of more traditional racquets.
As you mentioned, it’s great to see that Pacific doesn’t bother changing the looks of their racquets every new season, unlike many other companies. I think that puts even more focus on the excellent performance of their racquets and on the enhanced tech.
so January is over and instead of releasing the new line they removed the announcement status from their Facebook timeline and all the shops removed new racquets and bags from their websites, Pacific not only got the racquets from Fischer but their marketing team too :???: