Which was greater, Nadal's 3 slams in 2010 or federer's 3 slams in 2006?

Which was greater, Nadal's 3 slams in 2010 or federer's 3 slams in 2006?

  • Rafael Nadal's 3 slams in 2010

    Votes: 16 22.2%

  • roger federer's 3 slams in 2006

    Votes: 56 77.8%
  • Total voters
    72
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In 2010, Rafael Nadal became the first man in world history to win slams on clay, grass AND hard-court all in a calendar year. His run included winning Roland Garros without dropping a set (and wiping the floor with the now-retired soderling after a 2009 loss). He won the channel slam and won the US Open title being broken only 5 times, a record shared with andy roddick, and became the youngest player in the open era to win the career grand slam (at the age of 24) and also became only the second player to win the career golden slam (4 slams + Olympic gold in singles).

roger federer won 3 slams in 2006.

Which was the greater achievement? :p
 
dudeski

dudeski

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It is widely agreed that Nadal 2010 success was due to easiest draws of all time. Just look at his opponents in all the slams he won.
 
FedererDropShot

FedererDropShot

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2006 Federer.

3 Slam wins. 1 Slam Runner-up. 1 WTF win. Basically, had he won the FO, he'd win the best thing in tennis.

NOT JUST the Calendar Year Grand Slam but also the WTF as well.

Same could be said for Rafa, had he won the AO but no WTF so yeah.

The triple surface thing is great but not great enough to beat 3 slams + a WTF + runner-up at missing slam.
 
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TMF

Talk Tennis Guru
What about Fed 2004 and 2007?

Those year Fed won the WTF which Nadal failed to win in 2010.
 
veroniquem

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Nadal's because his 3 slam titles were on 3 different surfaces, which has never been done before or since.
 
FedererDropShot

FedererDropShot

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All things being equal, let's look at the 5 key events:

Rafa:
AO - Quarters
FO - Champion
Wimby - Champion
USO - Champion
WTF - Runner-up (to Roger)

Roger:
AO - Champion
FO - Runner-up (to Rafa)
Wimby - Champion
USO - Champion
WTF - Champion

Roger's 2006 AO outperforms Rafa's 2010 AO run by a big margin.
Rafa's FO outperforms Roger's FO 2006 run by a small margin.
Roger's WTF run outperforms Rafa's WTF run by a small margin.

By the totality of the year they achieved the 3 slams, Roger wins.

But if by JUST the 3 slams, ignoring WTF and their missing slam, Rafa's triple surface is better BUT people care so much about the CYGS so we need to take into account of the missing slam.

(Not my fault that people like to inflate the CYGS achievement)
 
veroniquem

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
WTF is not a slam. Of course Fed's 2006 season AS A WHOLE is better than Rafa's 2010 but if we talk about slams ONLY, then what Rafa did is an absolute record. What Fed did (3 titles + a final) was great too of course but not a record.
 
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TMF

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veroniquem said:
WTF is not a slam. Of course Fed's 2006 season AS A WHOLE is better than Rafa's 2010 but if we talk about slams ONLY, then what Rafa did is an absolute record. What Fed did (3 titles + a final) was great too of course but not a record.
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WTF is the 2nd most important event behind the 4 slams. We are comparing the entire year so you can't limited to slams only. But even if you did, Roger made all 4 finals while Nadal lost in early round at the AO. Also it's been beating to a dead horse already that Roger won 90+ percentage, more single titles, consistent throughout all 4 seasons.
 
The_Order

The_Order

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The question is which was greater, Rafa's 3 slam wins in 2010 or Roger's in 2006. This has nothing to do with WTF or the performance in the 4th major.

Pretty obvious Rafa won 3 on different surfaces, only the fed turds would choose Fed's 3 slams from 06.
 
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6-1 6-3 6-0

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TMF said:
WTF is the 2nd most important event behind the 4 slams. We are comparing the entire year so you can't limited to slams only. But even if you did, Roger made all 4 finals while Nadal lost in early round at the AO. Also it's been beating to a dead horse already that Roger won 90+ percentage, more single titles, consistent throughout all 4 seasons.
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No, we're comparing the 3 slams, not the whole year. Didn't you read my post? I don't care about the WTF. Otherwise, I would have asked "which year was better, Nadal 2010 or federer 2006?". But I didn't. :p
 
FedererDropShot

FedererDropShot

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If it's JUST THE 3 slams they won, Rafa wins (sadly).

But the problem is, since people like to overhype the CYGS... I think we should look at the performance of their missing slam too (Federer being closer to the CYGS).

But I don't give a damn about the CYGS (I consider Sampras greater than Laver because for me, it's all about total slams). So yeah, Rafa's THREE > Roger's THREE is a fact and there's really no debate.
 
NatF

NatF

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Pretty stupid thread, it's not which year was better or even who preformed better at the slams no it's "Which set of 3 slams is better".

Having the 3 on all surfaces is better, though the AO and USO both played quite differently.
 
veroniquem

veroniquem

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TMF said:
WTF is the 2nd most important event behind the 4 slams. We are comparing the entire year so you can't limited to slams only. .
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We can if we want to, why not. One can compare slam perfs, master perfs, streaks, specific records, overall seasons, ranking points. One can compare whatever one wants to.
 
Mike Sams

Mike Sams

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I think Djokovic's 2011 was the most phenomenal run in the history of tennis.

AO, Indian Wells, Miami, Madrid, Rome, Wimbledon, Montreal, US Open.
Add the semifinals of RG and the finals of Cincinnatti to that and it's ridiculous.:shock:

Nadal's 2008 is also a great season because of his amazing run in the spring, summer.

Monte Carlo, Hamburg, French Open, Queens, Wimbledon, Toronto, Olympic Gold.:)
 
mariecon

mariecon

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With the homogenized courts Nadal basically won all three on the same surface. And he didn't make the final at the AO. And he didn't win the WTF. And he only won 7 titles that year whereas Fed won 12 in 2006...So Fed wins!
 
FedererDropShot

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6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
No, we're comparing the 3 slams, not the whole year. Didn't you read my post? I don't care about the WTF. Otherwise, I would have asked "which year was better, Nadal 2010 or federer 2006?". But I didn't. :p
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But you care about the Gold Singles Medal (which is worth less in ATP points), no?

People overhype the Career Golden Slam and CYGS too much.

Heck, if Federer HAD achieved the Career Golden Slam + CYGS and let's say he had 19 slams. And a new guy comes along, never achieves the Career Golden Slam or the CYGS, but gets like 21 slams and gets to more slam finals... I'd take the new guy anyday.
 
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zam88

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veroniquem said:
WTF is not a slam. Of course Fed's 2006 season AS A WHOLE is better than Rafa's 2010 but if we talk about slams ONLY, then what Rafa did is an absolute record. What Fed did (3 titles + a final) was great too of course but not a record.
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This. I think any player if they had to choose their 3 slams they won in a season would choose the 3 most prestigious.. FO, Wim, USO.

AO just isn't going to catch up in prestige value to the other slams... although i suppose if the asian fan overtakes the US fan.. maybe it could.


But I think Federer's 2004, 6, and 7 were all better seasons than rafa had in 2010.

nice run for Rafa... it's cute that we have to rate his one 3 slam season.. when Fed has THREE.

Rafa will never catch federer in multiple slam seasons... what he has 2 to Federer's 5
 
sbengte

sbengte

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OP, think before making a thread. The Fed brigade will soon come here saying 2010 was a fluke since Nadal could never repeat it while Fed has 3x 3 slam years :neutral:
 
NatF

NatF

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sbengte said:
OP, think before making a thread. The Fed brigade will soon come here saying 2010 was a fluke since Nadal could never repeat it while Fed has 3x 3 slam years :neutral:
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Because that's not NSK's plan for the thread? To vile up Federer fans. I'd wager that half the hate Nadal receives on this forum is due to people like NSK constantly being annoying.
 
V

Vamos Rafa

Rookie
Well considering the number of slams they won was the same, I would rate both achievements pretty much the same. Don't see the point trying to make one year sound better than the other when they were obviously both amazing years.
 
Mainad

Mainad

Bionic Poster
IMO Nadal's 2010 Slams definitely have the edge:

1). They were won on the 3 different surfaces (HC, Clay & Grass)
2). The finalists, Soderling, Berdych and Djokovic were all top 10 players. (At 2006 AO final, Baghdatis was unseeded).
 
NatF

NatF

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Mainad said:
IMO Nadal's 2010 Slams definitely have the edge:

1). They were won on the 3 different surfaces (HC, Clay & Grass)
2). The finalists, Soderling, Berdych and Djokovic were all top 10 players. (At 2006 AO final, Baghdatis was unseeded).
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Baghdatis played better in that final than Soderling and Berdych...
 
Dark Magician

Dark Magician

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6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
In 2010, Rafael Nadal became the first man in world history to win slams on clay, grass AND hard-court all in a calendar year. His run included winning Roland Garros without dropping a set (and wiping the floor with the now-retired soderling after a 2009 loss). He won the channel slam and won the US Open title being broken only 5 times, a record shared with andy roddick, and became the youngest player in the open era to win the career grand slam (at the age of 24) and also became only the second player to win the career golden slam (4 slams + Olympic gold in singles).

roger federer won 3 slams in 2006.

Which was the greater achievement? :p
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Let me rephrase the question - In 2006, Roger Federer reached all four Grand Slam finals, winning three of them. His only loss came in the French Open final in four sets. In the other three Grand Slams of 2006, Federer defeated Nadal in the final of the Wimbledon Championships. He defeated Marcos Baghdatis, at the Australian Open and Andy Roddick at the US Open. Federer made it to six ATP Masters Series 1000 finals, winning four on hard surfaces. Also, Federer won one ATP 500 series event in Tokyo, three ATP 250 series events in Doha, Halle, and Basel, and captured the Year-End Championships for the third time in his career. His win-loss %age was 94.84.

Rafael Nadal won 3 slams in 2010.

Which was the greater achievement? :p
 
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This forum has become a sh!thouse of immature Nadal *****. Once upon a time there used to be some good discussions alongside the usual trolling and namecalling. Now, it seems that's all that is left. Thanks to dedicated crazies like sureshs and others...
 
King of Clay

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The combined rank of federer's opponents in the 3 finals was 65, whereas Nadal's opponents had a combined rank of 20.

Nadal did it on 3 different surfaces something federer could never manage.

Victory to Nadal again!
 
Apun94

Apun94

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FedererDropShot said:
All things being equal, let's look at the 5 key events:

Rafa:
AO - Quarters
FO - Champion
Wimby - Champion
USO - Champion
WTF - Runner-up (to Roger)

Roger:
AO - Champion
FO - Runner-up (to Rafa)
Wimby - Champion
USO - Champion
WTF - Champion

Roger's 2006 AO outperforms Rafa's 2010 AO run by a big margin.
Rafa's FO outperforms Roger's FO 2006 run by a small margin.
Roger's WTF run outperforms Rafa's WTF run by a small margin.

By the totality of the year they achieved the 3 slams, Roger wins.

But if by JUST the 3 slams, ignoring WTF and their missing slam, Rafa's triple surface is better BUT people care so much about the CYGS so we need to take into account of the missing slam.

(Not my fault that people like to inflate the CYGS achievement)
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GREAT post. Agree with everything. But I think the OP is only asking about the performances in the slams... Otherwise you were spot on. And that's coming from a Nadal fan
 
tipsa...don'tlikehim!

tipsa...don'tlikehim!

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federer 's rivals in 2006 =
nadal,
nalbandian,
baghdatis ( :lol: ),
roddick,
davydenko,
ljubicic,
gonzalez,
srichaphan ( :lol: :lol: )
james blake
jose acasuso :lol:

in 2010, nadal's rivals =
federer,
djokovic,
murray,
soderling,
tsonga,
berdych,
verdasco,
ferrer,
davydenko


Fed's grand slam wins on 2 surfaces
Rafa's wins on 3 surfaces


so yes, obviously, nadal.
 
sbengte

sbengte

G.O.A.T.
King of Clay said:
The combined rank of federer's opponents in the 3 finals was 65, whereas Nadal's opponents had a combined rank of 20.

Nadal did it on 3 different surfaces something federer could never manage.

Victory to Nadal again!
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Nice work, OP. Why limit to finalists alone ? I suggest you show them Fed fans further by getting the average rank of all of the 7 opponents for each of the slams won by Nadal in 2010 to prove he indeed had a Herculean draw at each slam :D
 
King of Clay

King of Clay

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Steve0904 said:
Facing GOATS would still be harder than facing the draw Nadal did at the 2010 USO. ;)
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Lets look at the business end (QF on) of the 2006 Australian Open and the 2010 US Open. federer's opponents had a combined rank of 80 whereas Nadal's had a combined rank of 23.

Some people choose to ignore facts.
 
mariecon

mariecon

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tipsa...don'tlikehim! said:
federer 's rivals in 2006 =
nadal,
nalbandian,
baghdatis
roddick,
davydenko,
ljubicic,
gonzalez,
srichaphan
james blake
jose acasuso

in 2010, nadal's rivals =
federer,
djokovic,
murray,
soderling,
tsonga,
berdych,
verdasco,
ferrer,
davydenko


Fed's grand slam wins on 2 surfaces
Rafa's wins on 3 surfaces


so yes, obviously, nadal.
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Are you saying these are the players they each faced in their GS wins? I'm not sure where you arrived at these names. First of all, Nadal never played Federer, Davydenko, Tsonga or Ferrer in any of his 3 GS wins in 2010. But you did forget Gianni Mina (#655 in the world, whom Nadal faced at RG) among others.

Federer never played Nalbandian, Ljubicic, Gonzalez, Srichaphan (not sure why you LOLed at him as he had a career high of #9), Blake or Acasuso in his 3 wins in 2006. But he did play Henman, Davydenko, Berdych and Kiefer among others. Why did you randomly pick those players to mention? Your post is an out and out lie. :shock:
 
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King of Clay

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6-1 6-3 6-0 said:
Having read NSK's posts, I don't think that's NSK (especially since he is a previously banned user). :mad: It looks like another alternate-account user trying to steal NSK's originality. :p
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Who is nsk? Thanks for defending me, I am just hear to talk tennis.

I have been reading this forum for a while and you are one of the best posters on here. Always providing good debate, you are also very knowledgeable on tennis, like myself.
 
underground

underground

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King of Clay said:
Who is nsk? Thanks for defending me, I am just hear to talk tennis.

I have been reading this forum for a while and you are one of the best posters on here. Always providing good debate, you are also very knowledgeable on tennis, like myself.
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There we go right now. NSK confirmed.

To quote TheF1Bob's signature: "NSK/Rafa2005rg/6-1 6-3 6-0/Team Nadal/VAMOSDNA - I'm not here to be entertaining, I'm here to talk about tennis."

Saying that a troll is one of the best posters on the forum is a joke indeed. :lol:
 
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