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Babolat Official

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Hi Daniel,

I was selected to be a playtester for Babolat Play from connectedtennis. I received a call from Babolat when I wasn't home and never heard back. I'm concerned about grip size as it would be really a downer to have the wrong size. I use a 4 3/8, so am I safe? Will I get a call back or an email asking about grip size? I'm really looking forward to it!

Thanks!
Steve

you are safe
 

benjamins_80

New User
If you subscribe to the idea that more flexible frames are more arm friendly = Pure Control.[/QUOTE]

Would be curious to hear your thoughts on frame flexibility and arm friendliness. Based on the way you phrase that response it seems you have an argument against the rational of flexible frames = arm friendly. Mind if I ask what that is? Been having a little arm trouble for the first time so trying to fully understand all the variables.

By the way, played with the Pure Strike this weekend. One of the best frames I have ever hit. Think I may be investing in a couple of those this January.
 

nik1

New User
Control Tour vs Storm Tour

Hi Daniel!

I'm very interested in the Pure Control Tour
and I would like to know more on the differences
with the Pure Storm Tour that I currently hold.

What are the differences, if any, in the specification (weight, balance, flex) ?

Which new technologies are used ?

What are the effects you have verified (or expect) on the way the racket plays ?



Pure Control:
January 2014
***correction: the date is now January 2014 for Pure Control line***

If you subscribe to the idea that more flexible frames are more arm friendly = Pure Control.
 

morandi

Rookie
Hey are all APD 2013 26 7/8" long instead of the listed 27"? I was restapling my buttcap and I measured both my racquets and they come out at 26 7/8" long with the buttcap flush against the handle.
 

Babolat Official

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If you subscribe to the idea that more flexible frames are more arm friendly = Pure Control.

Would be curious to hear your thoughts on frame flexibility and arm friendliness. Based on the way you phrase that response it seems you have an argument against the rational of flexible frames = arm friendly. Mind if I ask what that is? Been having a little arm trouble for the first time so trying to fully understand all the variables.

By the way, played with the Pure Strike this weekend. One of the best frames I have ever hit. Think I may be investing in a couple of those this January.[/QUOTE]

There is a school of thought that more flexible frames transmit less of the shock of ball impact. I partially agree, but I think weight, string type/tension and ability are also important factors to consider.

A personal example: Pure Drive Roddick strung at 65 with 16 RPM Blast is tougher on my body than a Pure Drive 107 strung at 50 Nat Gut.

The Pure Strikes are great and worth a demo. I can't make the switch from my beloved APD but the Strike 100 (weighted to 305) is my second favorite frame in our line.
 

Babolat Official

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Hi Daniel!

I'm very interested in the Pure Control Tour
and I would like to know more on the differences
with the Pure Storm Tour that I currently hold.

What are the differences, if any, in the specification (weight, balance, flex) ?

Which new technologies are used ?

What are the effects you have verified (or expect) on the way the racket plays ?

Slightly more flexible (68=PC vs 69=PS). Remember, our testing is always much higher than TW.

The carbon used in the Pure Control line is 1/2 as dense as the materials in the Pure Storm line. Other than that, specs should be about the same.

As it is our classic frame, doesn't get loaded with too many new technologies.
 

Babolat Official

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Hey are all APD 2013 26 7/8" long instead of the listed 27"? I was restapling my buttcap and I measured both my racquets and they come out at 26 7/8" long with the buttcap flush against the handle.

They are 27 before they are strung. And will remain that length if strung correctly.

What is your stringer set up (6 pt, etc.)?

When I used to string on a drop weight, 2 pt clamp, I inadvertently shortened a couple Pure Drives and Ti.Radicals.
 

lidoazndiabloboi

Hall of Fame
Hi Daniel,

We wouldnt be able to put silicone into the handle correct? The only way to customize the handle weight would be to add lead handle around the handle.
 

SFrazeur

Legend
Hey are all APD 2013 26 7/8" long instead of the listed 27"? I was restapling my buttcap and I measured both my racquets and they come out at 26 7/8" long with the buttcap flush against the handle.

If they are strung that could just simply be hoop compression.
 

nik1

New User
Slightly more flexible (68=PC vs 69=PS). Remember, our testing is always much higher than TW.

The carbon used in the Pure Control line is 1/2 as dense as the materials in the Pure Storm line. Other than that, specs should be about the same.

As it is our classic frame, doesn't get loaded with too many new technologies.

See
http://blog.tennis-warehouse.com/miscellaneous/sneak-peek-new-babolat-pure-control-racquets/

According with the review of Michelle, the Swing Weight of the Pure Control
is much lower than that of the Storm Tour.
That would be strange if the specs are about the same.
What's wrong ?
 

morandi

Rookie
They are 27 before they are strung. And will remain that length if strung correctly.

What is your stringer set up (6 pt, etc.)?

When I used to string on a drop weight, 2 pt clamp, I inadvertently shortened a couple Pure Drives and Ti.Radicals.

One was strung at my local stringer using vs gut mains at 60lbs and 4G at 56lbs. The other was strung at Tennis Warehouse when I purchased it vs gut mains at 62lb and 4G at 58lbs. I measured my old APD which was always strung with RPM at 50lbs and it measures the same length. The local shop I go to uses top of the line Babolat machines. They string Sampras racquets.
Just wondering if this is normal.
 

JAY1

Semi-Pro
Hello Daniel,
How you doing.
I've been using Pure Storm Ltd strung with Xcel at 55lbs for last two years and next week I get a demo of the Pure Control 95, I'm going to string it at 58lbs with Xcel and from a previous discussion between us we agreed it should feel identical as the PC 95 is slightly more flexible.
Please can you tell me is there a Babolat racket with the same weight/swing weight as the two above but is a bit more powerful?
Thanks D.
 

Babolat Official

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One was strung at my local stringer using vs gut mains at 60lbs and 4G at 56lbs. The other was strung at Tennis Warehouse when I purchased it vs gut mains at 62lb and 4G at 58lbs. I measured my old APD which was always strung with RPM at 50lbs and it measures the same length. The local shop I go to uses top of the line Babolat machines. They string Sampras racquets.
Just wondering if this is normal.

It is surprising this would happen to all the frames as:

1. different string combinations at different tensions would place different stresses on the frame

2. I know in the past, TW does a majority of their stringing on Prince crank stringers (some version of the NEOS, I believe 4 pt). If your shop is using a Babolat sensor expert or Star 5...these are very different stringing machines.

I'm not really sure what answer you are looking for, but if you think you have defective products, send them in for warranty evaluation.
 

Babolat Official

Hall of Fame
Hello Daniel,
How you doing.
I've been using Pure Storm Ltd strung with Xcel at 55lbs for last two years and next week I get a demo of the Pure Control 95, I'm going to string it at 58lbs with Xcel and from a previous discussion between us we agreed it should feel identical as the PC 95 is slightly more flexible.
Please can you tell me is there a Babolat racket with the same weight/swing weight as the two above but is a bit more powerful?
Thanks D.

The closest thing would be Pure Strike 18x20 but would require some minor customization.
 

Babolat Official

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Daniel, What about the Pure Storm Tour and the new Pure Control Tour?
How different are they to the PS Ltd?

Bigger head (98), more open string pattern (16x20), thicker beam (21), stiffer frame (63 vs 59 via TW), different balance (1 pt HL vs 9).

Having hit with all of these, I think customizing a Strike 18x20 will get you closer to a PS Ltd. than a Pure Control Tour or Pure Storm Tour.
 

JAY1

Semi-Pro
Bigger head (98), more open string pattern (16x20), thicker beam (21), stiffer frame (63 vs 59 via TW), different balance (1 pt HL vs 9).

Having hit with all of these, I think customizing a Strike 18x20 will get you closer to a PS Ltd. than a Pure Control Tour or Pure Storm Tour.
In what way should I customise it to get it playing the same as a Pure Storm Ltd strung with Xcel at 55lbs?
 

Babolat Official

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In what way should I customise it to get it playing the same as a Pure Storm Ltd strung with Xcel at 55lbs?

It will never play the same. If you want the same feel, use the Pure Control 95.

If you want a similar feel with more power, measure your PS LTD on an RDC. Then take a Pure Strike or Pure Strike Tour, and using lead tape and a leather grip, try to match to your PS Ltd. for swing weight, balance, and static weight.

These are different frames, they will not feel the same. But by customizing and play testing, you can get them close to each other, while getting more power (be cognizant that for every advantage, there is a drawback).
 

JAY1

Semi-Pro
It will never play the same. If you want the same feel, use the Pure Control 95.

If you want a similar feel with more power, measure your PS LTD on an RDC. Then take a Pure Strike or Pure Strike Tour, and using lead tape and a leather grip, try to match to your PS Ltd. for swing weight, balance, and static weight.

These are different frames, they will not feel the same. But by customizing and play testing, you can get them close to each other, while getting more power (be cognizant that for every advantage, there is a drawback).
Excellent advice as always Daniel.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Dear Babolat. Can you make the grip shape on your rackets to be more similar to Wilson grip shape ? Your grip shape is not as popular.
Also racket industry should have same grip shape for all manufacturers.
 
Dunno if you have been asked this or not, but...

For a player with a one handed backhand, and that is only 5'9, what racket would you recommend? I have even turned off from your sticks due to the stigma that babolat sticks are bad for the 1hbh, but would like to hear your opinion!

Thanks a lot!

FN13
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Dunno if you have been asked this or not, but...

For a player with a one handed backhand, and that is only 5'9, what racket would you recommend? I have even turned off from your sticks due to the stigma that babolat sticks are bad for the 1hbh, but would like to hear your opinion!

Thanks a lot!

FN13

LOL. Pure drive 2012 is Great for 1-handed backhand. It is very maneuverable and easy to control on the 1-hander. It's specs have really changed in 2012.
 

Babolat Official

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Dunno if you have been asked this or not, but...

For a player with a one handed backhand, and that is only 5'9, what racket would you recommend? I have even turned off from your sticks due to the stigma that babolat sticks are bad for the 1hbh, but would like to hear your opinion!

Thanks a lot!

FN13

I'm not sure I'm in a position to recommend sticks based on a stroke. What advantages are you looking for from your racquet and what is your current frame and string set up?

There are numerous players hitting one handers with our frames.
 
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