Big Four and their losing H2H records

• Different Players: 351
• Winning: 308 (87.7%)
• Tied: 14 (4.0%)
• Losing: 29 (8.3%)

1. Novak Djokovic: 23-27
2. Rafael Nadal: 16-24
3. Dominic Thiem: 2-5
4. Yevgeny Kafelnikov: 2-4
5. Alexander Zverev: 3-4
6. Patrick Rafter: 0-3
7. Thomas Enqvist: 1-3
8. Alex Corretja: 2-3
9. Franco Squillari: 0-2
10. Wayne Ferreira: 1-2
11. Dominik Hrbaty: 1-2
12. Gustavo Kuerten: 1-2
13. Felix Auger Aliassime: 0-1
14. Pablo Andujar: 0-1
15. Lucas Arnold Ker: 0-1
16. Nikoloz Basilashvili: 0-1
17. Byron Black: 0-1
18. Sergi Bruguera: 0-1
19. Kenneth Carlsen: 0-1
20. Francisco Clavet: 0-1
21. Evgeny Donskoy: 0-1
22. Andrea Gaudenzi: 0-1
23. Markus Hantschk: 0-1
24. Thanasi Kokkinakis: 0-1
25. Andrei Medvedev: 0-1
26. Andrey Rublev: 0-1
27. James Sekulov: 0-1
28. Jan Siemerink: 0-1
29. Christophe van Garsse: 0-1

• Different Players: 301
• Winning: 284 (94.4%)
• Tied: 8 (2.7%)
• Losing: 9 (3.0%)

1. Novak Djokovic: 28-30
2. Nikolay Davydenko: 5-6
3. Dominik Hrbaty: 1-3
4. Dustin Brown: 0-2
5. Alex Corretja: 0-2
6. Chris Guccione: 0-1
7. Joachim Johansson: 0-1
8. Olivier Mutis: 0-1
9. Paradorn Srichaphan: 0-1

• Different Players: 270
• Winning: 248 (91.9%)
• Tied: 11 (4.1%)
• Losing: 11 (4.1%)

1. Andy Roddick: 4-5
2. Nick Kyrgios: 0-2
3. Marat Safin: 0-2
4. Fernando Gonzalez: 1-2
5. Ivo Karlovic: 1-2
6. Taro Daniel: 0-1
7. Antony Dupuis: 0-1
8. Daniel Evans: 0-1
9. Dennis van Scheppingen: 0-1
10. Jiri Vesely: 0-1
11. Filippo Volandri: 0-1

• Different Players: 238
• Winning: 206 (86.6%)
• Tied: 12 (5.0%)
• Losing: 20 (8.4%)

1. Novak Djokovic: 11-25
2. Rafael Nadal: 7-17
3. Roger Federer: 11-14
4. Mario Ancic: 2-3
5. Arnaud Clement: 1-2
6. Fernando Gonzalez: 1-2
7. Felix Auger Aliassime: 0-1
8. Alex de Minaur: 0-1
9. Federico Delbonis: 0-1
10. Antony Dupuis: 0-1
11. Egor Gerasimov: 0-1
12. Justin Gimelstob: 0-1
13. Jan Hernych: 0-1
14. Dominik Hrbaty: 0-1
15. Daniil Medvedev: 0-1
16. Jiri Novak: 0-1
17. Jean Rene Lisnard: 0-1
18. Marat Safin: 0-1
19. Denis Shapovalov: 0-1
20. Jordan Thompson: 0-1

• Different Players: 297
• Winning: 247 (83.2%)
• Tied: 19 (6.4%)
• Losing: 31 (10.4%)

1. Lleyton Hewitt [AUS]: 4-5
2. Michael Stich [GER]: 4-5
3. Richard Krajicek [NED]: 4-6
4. Sergi Bruguera [ESP]: 2-3
5. Marat Safin [RUS]: 2-4
6. Paul Haarhuis [NED]: 1-3
7. Andy Roddick [USA]: 1-2
8. Christo Van Rensburg [RSA]: 1-2
9. Max Mirnyi [BLR]: 1-2
10. Derrick Rostagno [USA]: 1-2
11. Paul Annacone [USA]: 0-1
12. George Bastl [SUI]: 0-1
13. Jay Berger [USA]: 0-1
14. Arnaud Di Pasquale [FRA]: 0-1
15. Roger Federer [SUI]: 0-1
16. Sammy Giammalva Jr [USA]: 0-1
17. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 0-1
18. Oliver Gross [GER]: 0-1
19. Andrew Ilie [AUS]: 0-1
20. Mark Keil [USA]: 0-1
21. Mark Koevermans [NED]: 0-1
22. Harel Levy [ISR]: 0-1
23. Alberto Martin [ESP]: 0-1
24. Paul Henri Mathieu [FRA]: 0-1
25. Miloslav Mecir [SVK]: 0-1
26. Yannick Noah [FRA]: 0-1
27. Leander Paes [IND]: 0-1
28. Christian Saceanu [GER]: 0-1
29. Gilbert Schaller [AUT]: 0-1
30. Leif Shiras [USA]: 0-1
31. Mikael Pernfors [SWE]: 0-2

• Different Players: 254
• Winning: 221 (87.0%)
• Tied: 12 (4.7%)
• Losing: 21 (8.3%)

1. Paul Gerken [USA]: 1-2
2. John Newcombe [AUS]: 1-3
3. Jordi Arrese [ESP]: 0-1
4. Olivier Delaitre [FRA]: 0-1
5. Roy Emerson [AUS]: 0-1
6. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 0-1
7. Thomas Hogstedt [SWE]: 0-1
8. Paul Kronk [AUS]: 0-1
9. Nicklas Kulti [SWE]: 0-1
10. Tom Leonard [USA]: 0-1
11. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
12. Jaime Oncins [BRA]: 0-1
13. Hans Jaochim Plotz [GER]: 0-1
14. Chris Pridham [CAN]: 0-1
15. Goran Prpic [CRO]: 0-1
16. Lionel Roux [FRA]: 0-1
17. Joao Cunha Silva [POR]: 0-1
18. Tenny Svensson [SWE]: 0-1
19. Eliot Teltscher [USA]: 0-1
20. Alexander Volkov [RUS]: 0-1
21. Henri Leconte [FRA]: 0-2

• Different Players: 402
• Winning: 352 (87.6%)
• Tied: 21 (5.2%)
• Losing: 29 (7.2%)

1. Stefan Edberg [SWE]: 12-14
2. Pete Sampras [USA]: 3-5
3. David Wheaton [USA]: 3-5
4. Jonas Svensson [SWE]: 2-3
5. Bjorn Borg [SWE]: 2-6
6. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 1-2
7. Henrik Holm [SWE]: 1-2
8. Richard Krajicek [NED]: 1-2
9. Jan Siemerink [NED]: 1-2
10. Petr Korda [CZE]: 1-4
11. Byron Black [ZIM]: 0-1
12. Karsten Braasch [GER]: 0-1
13. Mark Cox [GBR]: 0-1
14. Thomas Enqvist [SWE]: 0-1
15. Charlie Fancutt [AUS]: 0-1
16. Doug Flach [USA]: 0-1
17. Christophe Freyss [FRA]: 0-1
18. Renzo Furlan [ITA]: 0-1
19. Marc Kevin Goellner [GER]: 0-1
20. Stephane Huet [FRA]: 0-1
21. Bernd Karbacher [GER]: 0-1
22. Hans Kary [AUT]: 0-1
23. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
24. Jaime Oncins [BRA]: 0-1
25. Patrick Rafter [AUS]: 0-1
26. Lionel Roux [FRA]: 0-1
27. Roger Smith [BAH]: 0-1
28. Jonathan Stark [USA]: 0-1
29. Marc Rosset [SUI]: 0-3

• Different Players: 386
• Winning: 318 (82.4%)
• Tied: 32 (8.3%)
• Losing: 36 (9.3%)

1. Pete Sampras [USA]: 14-20
2. Jim Courier [USA]: 5-7
3. Karol Kucera [SVK]: 3-4
4. Roger Federer [SUI]: 3-8
5. Juan Carlos Ferrero [ESP]: 2-3
6. Andres Gomez [ECU]: 2-3
7. Marat Safin [RUS]: 2-3
8. Ivan Lendl [USA]: 2-5
9. Patrik Kuhnen [GER]: 1-2
10. Jurgen Melzer [AUT]: 1-2
11. Marcelo Rios [CHI]: 1-2
12. Carl Uwe Steeb [GER]: 1-3
13. Igor Andreev [RUS]: 0-1
14. Benjamin Becker [GER]: 0-1
15. Francesco Cancellotti [ITA]: 0-1
16. David Ferrer [ESP]: 0-1
17. Guillermo Garcia Lopez [ESP]: 0-1
18. Jerome Haehnel [FRA]: 0-1
19. Patrice Kuchna [FRA]: 0-1
20. Eric Jelen [GER]: 0-1
21. Luke Jensen [USA]: 0-1
22. Glenn Layendecker [USA]: 0-1
23. Peter Lundgren [SWE]: 0-1
24. Miloslav Mecir [SVK]: 0-1
25. Gary Muller [RSA]: 0-1
26. Claudio Panatta [ITA]: 0-1
27. Stefano Pescosolido [ITA]: 0-1
28. Bill Scanlon [USA]: 0-1
29. Andrea Stoppini [ITA]: 0-1
30. Nenad Zimonjic [SRB]: 0-1
31. Nicolas Thomann [FRA]: 0-1
32. Danie Visser [RSA]: 0-1
33. Alexander Volkov [RUS]: 0-1
34. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 0-2
35. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 0-2
36. Ronald Agenor [USA]: 0-3

Noelan said:

Novak stats are impressive, bar Safin there is no player, retired or active who has lead more than one match over him.

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thomasferrett said:

Lol if Djokovic retires with winning H2H over Federer, Nadal and Murray when he retires (which is not that unthinkable).

What are the Nadal-brigade H2H specialists gonna say to that?

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thomasferrett said:

Lol if Djokovic retires with winning H2H over Federer, Nadal and Murray when he retires (which is not that unthinkable).

What are the Nadal-brigade H2H specialists gonna say to that?

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jm1980 said:

...

Djokovic

• Different Players: 201
• Winning: 184 (91.5%)
• Tied: 9 (4.5%)
• Losing: 8 (4.0%)

Losing records:

1. ...
2. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
3. ...
   
4. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-2

Murray

• Different Players: 198
• Winning: 179 (90.4%)
• Tied: 6 (3.0%)
• Losing: 13 (6.6%)

Losing records:

1. ....
   
2. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
3. ...
4. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-1

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ollinger said:

Is there a coherent point to this thread? Yes, someone like Hrbaty has a winning record against Federer because they mostly played when Fed was practically a child and Hrbaty was a seasoned player, and that's the case with lots of what's posted here. A little pointless??

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jm1980 said:

Sort of an information dump, but here it goes.

I wrote some code to calculate these quickly, so I'm taking requests for other players

Federer

• Different Players: 302
• Winning: 266 (88.1%)
• Tied: 14 (4.6%)
• Losing: 22 (7.3%)

Losing records:

1. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 11-23
2. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 2-3
3. Yevgeny Kafelnikov [RUS]: 2-4
4. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 1-2
5. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-2
6. Gustavo Kuerten [BRA]: 1-2
7. Thomas Enqvist [SWE]: 1-3
8. Byron Black [ZIM]: 0-1
9. Sergi Bruguera [ESP]: 0-1
10. Kenneth Carlsen [DEN]: 0-1
11. Francisco Clavet [ESP]: 0-1
12. Federico Delbonis [ARG]: 0-1
13. Andrea Gaudenzi [ITA]: 0-1
14. Markus Hantschk [GER]: 0-1
15. Lucas Arnold Ker [ARG]: 0-1
16. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1
17. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
18. James Sekulov [AUS]: 0-1
19. Jan Siemerink [NED]: 0-1
20. Christophe Van Garsse [BEL]: 0-1
21. Franco Squillari [ARG]: 0-2
22. Patrick Rafter [AUS]: 0-3

Nadal

• Different Players: 244
• Winning: 224 (91.8%)
• Tied: 11 (4.5%)
• Losing: 9 (3.7%)

Losing records:

1. Nikolay Davydenko [RUS]: 5-6
2. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-3
3. Chris Guccione [AUS]: 0-1
4. Joachim Johansson [SWE]: 0-1
5. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1
6. Olivier Mutis [FRA]: 0-1
7. Paradorn Srichaphan [THA]: 0-1
8. Dustin Brown [GER]: 0-2
9. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 0-2

Djokovic

• Different Players: 201
• Winning: 184 (91.5%)
• Tied: 9 (4.5%)
• Losing: 8 (4.0%)

Losing records:

1. Andy Roddick [USA]: 4-5
2. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
3. Ivo Karlovic [CRO]: 1-2
4. Antony Dupuis [FRA]: 0-1
5. Filip Krajinovic [SRB]: 0-1
6. Dennis Van Scheppingen [NED]: 0-1
7. Filippo Volandri [ITA]: 0-1
8. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-2

Murray

• Different Players: 198
• Winning: 179 (90.4%)
• Tied: 6 (3.0%)
• Losing: 13 (6.6%)

Losing records:

1. Roger Federer [SUI]: 11-14
2. Novak Djokovic [SRB]: 9-21
3. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 6-16
4. Mario Ancic [CRO]: 2-3
5. Arnaud Clement [FRA]: 1-2
6. Justin Gimelstob [USA]: 0-1
7. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
8. Antony Dupuis [FRA]: 0-1
9. Jan Hernych [CZE]: 0-1
10. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 0-1
11. Jean Rene Lisnard [MON]: 0-1
12. Jiri Novak [CZE]: 0-1
13. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-1

Bonus: Wawrinka

• Different Players: 216
• Winning: 143 (66.2%)
• Tied: 29 (13.4%)
• Losing: 44 (20.4%)

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xFedal said:

It will be a plus H2H advantage over his rivals + His other achievements. Novak and Federer are better against the field than Nadal. Djokovic is on the other hand will have a unique argument that he is better against the field and against his rivals a claim both Federer and Nadal can't claim.

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BeatlesFan said:

Random observation: Lendl is 3-5 against Sampras. Never mind that Ivan is 11 years older than Pete. A totally meaningless and misleading stat.

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jm1980 said:

Sort of an information dump, but here it goes.

I wrote some code to calculate these quickly, so I'm taking requests for other players

Federer

• Different Players: 302
• Winning: 266 (88.1%)
• Tied: 14 (4.6%)
• Losing: 22 (7.3%)

Losing records:

1. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 11-23
2. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 2-3
3. Yevgeny Kafelnikov [RUS]: 2-4
4. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 1-2
5. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-2
6. Gustavo Kuerten [BRA]: 1-2
7. Thomas Enqvist [SWE]: 1-3
8. Byron Black [ZIM]: 0-1
9. Sergi Bruguera [ESP]: 0-1
10. Kenneth Carlsen [DEN]: 0-1
11. Francisco Clavet [ESP]: 0-1
12. Federico Delbonis [ARG]: 0-1
13. Andrea Gaudenzi [ITA]: 0-1
14. Markus Hantschk [GER]: 0-1
15. Lucas Arnold Ker [ARG]: 0-1
16. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1
17. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
18. James Sekulov [AUS]: 0-1
19. Jan Siemerink [NED]: 0-1
20. Christophe Van Garsse [BEL]: 0-1
21. Franco Squillari [ARG]: 0-2
22. Patrick Rafter [AUS]: 0-3

Nadal

• Different Players: 244
• Winning: 224 (91.8%)
• Tied: 11 (4.5%)
• Losing: 9 (3.7%)

Losing records:

1. Nikolay Davydenko [RUS]: 5-6
2. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-3
3. Chris Guccione [AUS]: 0-1
4. Joachim Johansson [SWE]: 0-1
5. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1
6. Olivier Mutis [FRA]: 0-1
7. Paradorn Srichaphan [THA]: 0-1
8. Dustin Brown [GER]: 0-2
9. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 0-2

Djokovic

• Different Players: 201
• Winning: 184 (91.5%)
• Tied: 9 (4.5%)
• Losing: 8 (4.0%)

Losing records:

1. Andy Roddick [USA]: 4-5
2. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
3. Ivo Karlovic [CRO]: 1-2
4. Antony Dupuis [FRA]: 0-1
5. Filip Krajinovic [SRB]: 0-1
6. Dennis Van Scheppingen [NED]: 0-1
7. Filippo Volandri [ITA]: 0-1
8. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-2

Murray

• Different Players: 198
• Winning: 179 (90.4%)
• Tied: 6 (3.0%)
• Losing: 13 (6.6%)

Losing records:

1. Roger Federer [SUI]: 11-14
2. Novak Djokovic [SRB]: 9-21
3. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 6-16
4. Mario Ancic [CRO]: 2-3
5. Arnaud Clement [FRA]: 1-2
6. Justin Gimelstob [USA]: 0-1
7. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
8. Antony Dupuis [FRA]: 0-1
9. Jan Hernych [CZE]: 0-1
10. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 0-1
11. Jean Rene Lisnard [MON]: 0-1
12. Jiri Novak [CZE]: 0-1
13. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-1

Bonus: Wawrinka

• Different Players: 216
• Winning: 143 (66.2%)
• Tied: 29 (13.4%)
• Losing: 44 (20.4%)

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Sampras

• Different Players: 297
• Winning: 247 (83.2%)
• Tied: 19 (6.4%)
• Losing: 31 (10.4%)

Losing records:

1. Lleyton Hewitt [AUS]: 4-5
2. Michael Stich [GER]: 4-5
3. Richard Krajicek [NED]: 4-6
4. Sergi Bruguera [ESP]: 2-3
5. Marat Safin [RUS]: 2-4
6. Paul Haarhuis [NED]: 1-3
7. Andy Roddick [USA]: 1-2
8. Christo Van Rensburg [RSA]: 1-2
9. Max Mirnyi [BLR]: 1-2
10. Derrick Rostagno [USA]: 1-2
11. Paul Annacone [USA]: 0-1
12. George Bastl [SUI]: 0-1
13. Jay Berger [USA]: 0-1
14. Arnaud Di Pasquale [FRA]: 0-1
15. Roger Federer [SUI]: 0-1
16. Sammy Giammalva Jr [USA]: 0-1
17. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 0-1
18. Oliver Gross [GER]: 0-1
19. Andrew Ilie [AUS]: 0-1
20. Mark Keil [USA]: 0-1
21. Mark Koevermans [NED]: 0-1
22. Harel Levy [ISR]: 0-1
23. Alberto Martin [ESP]: 0-1
24. Paul Henri Mathieu [FRA]: 0-1
25. Miloslav Mecir [SVK]: 0-1
26. Yannick Noah [FRA]: 0-1
27. Leander Paes [IND]: 0-1
28. Christian Saceanu [GER]: 0-1
29. Gilbert Schaller [AUT]: 0-1
30. Leif Shiras [USA]: 0-1
31. Mikael Pernfors [SWE]: 0-2

Borg

• Different Players: 254
• Winning: 221 (87.0%)
• Tied: 12 (4.7%)
• Losing: 21 (8.3%)

Losing records:

1. Paul Gerken [USA]: 1-2
2. John Newcombe [AUS]: 1-3
3. Jordi Arrese [ESP]: 0-1
4. Olivier Delaitre [FRA]: 0-1
5. Roy Emerson [AUS]: 0-1
6. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 0-1
7. Thomas Hogstedt [SWE]: 0-1
8. Paul Kronk [AUS]: 0-1
9. Nicklas Kulti [SWE]: 0-1
10. Tom Leonard [USA]: 0-1
11. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
12. Jaime Oncins [BRA]: 0-1
13. Hans Jaochim Plotz [GER]: 0-1
14. Chris Pridham [CAN]: 0-1
15. Goran Prpic [CRO]: 0-1
16. Lionel Roux [FRA]: 0-1
17. Joao Cunha Silva [POR]: 0-1
18. Tenny Svensson [SWE]: 0-1
19. Eliot Teltscher [USA]: 0-1
20. Alexander Volkov [RUS]: 0-1
21. Henri Leconte [FRA]: 0-2

Lendl

• Different Players: 402
• Winning: 352 (87.6%)
• Tied: 21 (5.2%)
• Losing: 29 (7.2%)

Losing records:

1. Stefan Edberg [SWE]: 12-14
2. Pete Sampras [USA]: 3-5
3. David Wheaton [USA]: 3-5
4. Jonas Svensson [SWE]: 2-3
5. Bjorn Borg [SWE]: 2-6
6. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 1-2
7. Henrik Holm [SWE]: 1-2
8. Richard Krajicek [NED]: 1-2
9. Jan Siemerink [NED]: 1-2
10. Petr Korda [CZE]: 1-4
11. Byron Black [ZIM]: 0-1
12. Karsten Braasch [GER]: 0-1
13. Mark Cox [GBR]: 0-1
14. Thomas Enqvist [SWE]: 0-1
15. Charlie Fancutt [AUS]: 0-1
16. Doug Flach [USA]: 0-1
17. Christophe Freyss [FRA]: 0-1
18. Renzo Furlan [ITA]: 0-1
19. Marc Kevin Goellner [GER]: 0-1
20. Stephane Huet [FRA]: 0-1
21. Bernd Karbacher [GER]: 0-1
22. Hans Kary [AUT]: 0-1
23. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
24. Jaime Oncins [BRA]: 0-1
25. Patrick Rafter [AUS]: 0-1
26. Lionel Roux [FRA]: 0-1
27. Roger Smith [BAH]: 0-1
28. Jonathan Stark [USA]: 0-1
29. Marc Rosset [SUI]: 0-3

Agassi

• Different Players: 386
• Winning: 318 (82.4%)
• Tied: 32 (8.3%)
• Losing: 36 (9.3%)

Losing records:

1. Pete Sampras [USA]: 14-20
2. Jim Courier [USA]: 5-7
3. Karol Kucera [SVK]: 3-4
4. Roger Federer [SUI]: 3-8
5. Juan Carlos Ferrero [ESP]: 2-3
6. Andres Gomez [ECU]: 2-3
7. Marat Safin [RUS]: 2-3
8. Ivan Lendl [USA]: 2-5
9. Patrik Kuhnen [GER]: 1-2
10. Jurgen Melzer [AUT]: 1-2
11. Marcelo Rios [CHI]: 1-2
12. Carl Uwe Steeb [GER]: 1-3
13. Igor Andreev [RUS]: 0-1
14. Benjamin Becker [GER]: 0-1
15. Francesco Cancellotti [ITA]: 0-1
16. David Ferrer [ESP]: 0-1
17. Guillermo Garcia Lopez [ESP]: 0-1
18. Jerome Haehnel [FRA]: 0-1
19. Patrice Kuchna [FRA]: 0-1
20. Eric Jelen [GER]: 0-1
21. Luke Jensen [USA]: 0-1
22. Glenn Layendecker [USA]: 0-1
23. Peter Lundgren [SWE]: 0-1
24. Miloslav Mecir [SVK]: 0-1
25. Gary Muller [RSA]: 0-1
26. Claudio Panatta [ITA]: 0-1
27. Stefano Pescosolido [ITA]: 0-1
28. Bill Scanlon [USA]: 0-1
29. Andrea Stoppini [ITA]: 0-1
30. Nenad Zimonjic [SRB]: 0-1
31. Nicolas Thomann [FRA]: 0-1
32. Danie Visser [RSA]: 0-1
33. Alexander Volkov [RUS]: 0-1
34. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 0-2
35. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 0-2
36. Ronald Agenor [USA]: 0-3

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torpantennis said:

Weakera MUGS Gonzalez/Safin, WTF, how can anyone have a losing record against them.

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BeatlesFan said:

Random observation: Lendl is 3-5 against Sampras. Never mind that Ivan is 11 years older than Pete. A totally meaningless and misleading stat.

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StannisTheMannis said:

Because he was a teenager when he played them...?

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jm1980 said:

Sort of an information dump, but here it goes.

I wrote some code to calculate these quickly, so I'm taking requests for other players

Federer

• Different Players: 302
• Winning: 266 (88.1%)
• Tied: 14 (4.6%)
• Losing: 22 (7.3%)

Losing records:

1. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 11-23
2. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 2-3
3. Yevgeny Kafelnikov [RUS]: 2-4
4. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 1-2
5. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-2
6. Gustavo Kuerten [BRA]: 1-2
7. Thomas Enqvist [SWE]: 1-3
8. Byron Black [ZIM]: 0-1
9. Sergi Bruguera [ESP]: 0-1
10. Kenneth Carlsen [DEN]: 0-1
11. Francisco Clavet [ESP]: 0-1
12. Federico Delbonis [ARG]: 0-1
13. Andrea Gaudenzi [ITA]: 0-1
14. Markus Hantschk [GER]: 0-1
15. Lucas Arnold Ker [ARG]: 0-1
16. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1
17. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1
18. James Sekulov [AUS]: 0-1
19. Jan Siemerink [NED]: 0-1
20. Christophe Van Garsse [BEL]: 0-1
21. Franco Squillari [ARG]: 0-2
22. Patrick Rafter [AUS]: 0-3

Nadal

• Different Players: 244
• Winning: 224 (91.8%)
• Tied: 11 (4.5%)
• Losing: 9 (3.7%)

Losing records:

1. Nikolay Davydenko [RUS]: 5-6
2. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-3
3. Chris Guccione [AUS]: 0-1
4. Joachim Johansson [SWE]: 0-1
5. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1
6. Olivier Mutis [FRA]: 0-1
7. Paradorn Srichaphan [THA]: 0-1
8. Dustin Brown [GER]: 0-2
9. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 0-2

Djokovic

• Different Players: 201
• Winning: 184 (91.5%)
• Tied: 9 (4.5%)
• Losing: 8 (4.0%)

Losing records:

1. Andy Roddick [USA]: 4-5
2. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
3. Ivo Karlovic [CRO]: 1-2
4. Antony Dupuis [FRA]: 0-1
5. Filip Krajinovic [SRB]: 0-1
6. Dennis Van Scheppingen [NED]: 0-1
7. Filippo Volandri [ITA]: 0-1
8. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-2

Murray

• Different Players: 198
• Winning: 179 (90.4%)
• Tied: 6 (3.0%)
• Losing: 13 (6.6%)

Losing records:

1. Roger Federer [SUI]: 11-14
2. Novak Djokovic [SRB]: 9-21
3. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 6-16
4. Mario Ancic [CRO]: 2-3
5. Arnaud Clement [FRA]: 1-2
6. Justin Gimelstob [USA]: 0-1
7. Fernando Gonzalez [CHI]: 1-2
8. Antony Dupuis [FRA]: 0-1
9. Jan Hernych [CZE]: 0-1
10. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 0-1
11. Jean Rene Lisnard [MON]: 0-1
12. Jiri Novak [CZE]: 0-1
13. Marat Safin [RUS]: 0-1

Bonus: Wawrinka

• Different Players: 216
• Winning: 143 (66.2%)
• Tied: 29 (13.4%)
• Losing: 44 (20.4%)

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ABCD said:

Can you do Laver?

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• Different Players: 218
• Winning: 189 (86.7%)
• Tied: 9 (4.1%)
• Losing: 20 (9.2%)

1. Marty Riessen [USA]: 5-6
2. Eddie Dibbs [USA]: 2-3
3. Manuel Santana [ESP]: 2-3
4. Bjorn Borg [SWE]: 2-5
5. Ivan Molina [COL]: 1-2
6. Alejandro Olmedo [PER]: 1-2
7. Ilie Nastase [ROU]: 1-4
8. Jorge Andrew [VEN]: 0-1
9. Brian C Bowman [AUS]: 0-1
10. Jaroslav Drobny [TCH]: 0-1
11. Mike E Green [USA]: 0-1
12. Robert Haillet [FRA]: 0-1
13. Laci Legenstein [AUT]: 0-1
14. Mario Llamas [MEX]: 0-1
15. Buster C Mottram [GBR]: 0-1
16. Hamilton Richardson [USA]: 0-1
17. Dick Savitt [USA]: 0-1
18. Uffe Schmidt [SWE]: 0-1
19. Vijay Amritraj [IND]: 0-2
20. Jimmy Connors [USA]: 0-3

jm1980 said:

Laver

• Different Players: 218
• Winning: 189 (86.7%)
• Tied: 9 (4.1%)
• Losing: 20 (9.2%)

Losing records:

1. Marty Riessen [USA]: 5-6
2. Eddie Dibbs [USA]: 2-3
3. Manuel Santana [ESP]: 2-3
4. Bjorn Borg [SWE]: 2-5
5. Ivan Molina [COL]: 1-2
6. Alejandro Olmedo [PER]: 1-2
7. Ilie Nastase [ROU]: 1-4
8. Jorge Andrew [VEN]: 0-1
9. Brian C Bowman [AUS]: 0-1
10. Jaroslav Drobny [TCH]: 0-1
11. Mike E Green [USA]: 0-1
12. Robert Haillet [FRA]: 0-1
13. Laci Legenstein [AUT]: 0-1
14. Mario Llamas [MEX]: 0-1
15. Buster C Mottram [GBR]: 0-1
16. Hamilton Richardson [USA]: 0-1
17. Dick Savitt [USA]: 0-1
18. Uffe Schmidt [SWE]: 0-1
19. Vijay Amritraj [IND]: 0-2
20. Jimmy Connors [USA]: 0-3

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randomtoss said:

This. Stop it with the H2H bllsht.

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thomasferrett said:

Lol if Djokovic retires with winning H2H over Federer, Nadal and Murray when he retires (which is not that unthinkable).

What are the Nadal-brigade H2H specialists gonna say to that?

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Gary Duane said:

The only bllsht is your post. The rest of us are free to draw our own conclusions.

I'm personally grateful for the work done.

What you have you contributed?

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Adv. Edberg said:

Well to be fair, most of the wins against Fed have happened well after his prime.

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CYGS said:

To be fair, most of Federer wins against Djokovic have happened well before Djokovic's prime. It all evens out.

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Gary Duane said:

The only bllsht is your post. The rest of us are free to draw our own conclusions.

I'm personally grateful for the work done.

What you have you contributed?

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randomtoss said:

Ok, maybe my contribution was a little bit from the belly and not the brain

I think these stats are a poor indicator of a player's value, because of the many parameters they leave aside: age difference, percentage of matches played on one of the player's best surface, match-up, etc. IMO, you can only use this indicator when all of the above is balanced.

As for the fact that the OP did a lot of work: I'm sure you have had classmates who gave back works that were pages and pages longer that yours, and still their work was poor quality. Hard work is not necessarily good work.

One figure looks interesting though: all these ATG seem to have a overall losing record of about 7-10%, except for Nadal and Djokovic. What could explain this, if it is accurate?

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randomtoss said:

One more thing, @Gary Duane: I'm very admirative of the stats YOU post. They often bring a lot to the discussions about pro players.

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thomasferrett said:

Lol if Djokovic retires with winning H2H over Federer, Nadal and Murray when he retires (which is not that unthinkable).

What are the Nadal-brigade H2H specialists gonna say to that?

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helterskelter said:

This is a disappointing post. You have forgotten several important things that you used to know. Please let me remind you:

1) First of all, Nadal has never (never) lost a match except when he was injured. Probably never will do so, either.
2) Nadal leads Djokovic 9-4 in Slams. Only Slam H2H counts. Bull sometimes lulls his opponents into a false sense of security by not playing his forehand down the line in minor events so that he can surprise them in majors. Djokovic, by contrast, majors in minors.
3) Nadal's disappointing season in 2015 sets him up perfectly for a dominant 2016. After all, he won 4 games against Djokovic in Beijing and 6 in London even in circumstances that favored Djokovic. This proves that if they play next year, Nadal will win. Nadal is likely to win at least three Slams in 2016. The only reason he might not win the Grand Slam is that his knee might not hold up for a whole season. Otherwise, he will again be unstoppable (see point 1). Vamos!

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uscwang said:

Is there a new religion set up around Rafa or something? Good for him.
But you are dead wrong. He is never injured (how could he be?). He uses injury as a disguise for his charity rained on the mortals.

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1. Lucas Arnold Ker [ARG]: 0-1 (1998)
2. Jan Siemerink [NED]: 0-1 (1998)
3. Christophe Van Garsse [BEL]: 0-1 (1999)
4. Byron Black [ZIM]: 0-1 (1999)
5. Kenneth Carlsen [DEN]: 0-1 (1999)
6. Markus Hantschk [GER]: 0-1 (2000)
7. Sergi Bruguera [ESP]: 0-1 (2000)
8. Francisco Clavet [ESP]: 0-1 (2000)
9. Andrei Medvedev [UKR]: 0-1 (2000)
10. James Sekulov [AUS]: 0-1 (2000)
11. Alex Corretja [ESP]: 2-3 (last loss 2001)
12. Yevgeny Kafelnikov [RUS]: 2-4 (last loss 2001)
13. Wayne Ferreira [RSA]: 1-2 (last loss 2001)
14. Patrick Rafter [AUS]: 0-3 (last loss 2001 Halle)
15. Andrea Gaudenzi [ITA]: 0-1 (2002)
16. Thomas Enqvist [SWE]: 1-3 (last loss 2002 at IW)

1. Franco Squillari [ARG]: 0-2 (last loss 2003, first 2001)
2. Dominik Hrbaty [SVK]: 1-2 (important loss in 2004)
3. Gustavo Kuerten [BRA]: 1-2 (important loss in 2004 at RG)
4. Rafael Nadal [ESP]: 11-23

1. Federico Delbonis [ARG]: 0-1 (2013)
2. Nick Kyrgios [AUS]: 0-1 (2015)

mavsman149 said:

Love Hrbaty having a h2h lead over 3/4 of the big 4 and Corretja and Krygios leading Fed and Nadal! Fernando Gonzalez and the huge FH with leads over both Djokovic and Murray too.

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Gary Duane said:

Murray's loss to Gonzalez in the QF of RG in 2009 is significant. But the other matches were before either had established himself. Gonzalez is 7 years older, a year older than Fed.

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