Favorite multifilament

g4driver

g4driver

Legend
lucieisland said:
therefore, the best does not exist.
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IMO, the best company for multis does exist. Tecnfibre offers a lot great of multis at various prices. Wilson's lineup is pretty solid also.

Some companies have one or two multis that really shine. Head's Velocity is a winner along with Rip Control even though they don't have a solid lineup like Tecnfibre and Wilson's.

If I were looking to try multis, Tecnfibre and Wilson are companies with large offerings and nice place to start a search.
 
mike schiffer

mike schiffer

Semi-Pro
lucieisland said:
for me, before trying to define the best multi, you must above all know what the player's expectations are in order to find "the" best multi.

because as with everything, there is no better!
no better tennis racket, no better string, no better poly, no better multi, no better s-gut, no better car ...

and we could take everything that exists, there will never be a better one!
there are endless better ones.

therefore, the best does not exist.

for this tennis season, I have long played in natural gut / poly soft. and I have long thought that I would never find better.

then, with the rainy season at home I started looking for the best value for money multi.

I tried for weeks addixion, origin, multifeel, tgv, nxt, velocity, isospeed pro, gutex, phase one, XR1, and many more. (about fifteen strings)

then, finding it a little soft, and not very dynamic, I tried to use multi with a poly, in hybrid, as a natural gut / poly could play.

but for my part it was very far from natural gut / poly, expensive enough so that multi is not interesting, and very fragile - natural gut is much more durable).

after a while, the theory that the more expensive the better, became absurd.

and when trying s-gut / poly, I realized that in the end it was much better interest than multi / poly. for a simple reason: s-gut gives its maximum for 6 hours! about the same lifespan (tension stability) as many poly!

I find that in natural gut / poly, the weak link is poly, which loses its tension well faster than naty. in multi / poly, the weak link is multi fragile, which breaks quickly.

for me there are two or three factors:
durability (abrasion and breakage), in this profile, it's always the strongest poly
tension stability, and it's natural gut the best
comfort and power, multi are good customers.

But. each one of them has a weak point. naty for the price and the fragility to humidity, multi is quite expensive for what it is and quite fragile, poly loses its tension much too quickly, and often is sold much more expensive he should.

remains the ugly duckling. the old man who would have liked nothing. synthetic gut.

it has only contradictory characteristics: does not hold enough tension, less than 5h, is ultra efficient during its entire lifetime (unlike poly), is very fragile (in 1.35mm rarely lasts more than 2h in full bed) , is quite comfortable for its price, very powerful, and .. costs almost nothing.

as soon as you put a smooth poly cross, it becomes a formidable weapon. the poly gives it a little more lifespan (round and smooth it does not cut the s-gut), the poly adds dynamics to gain control.

to date, for me, this is the best solution.
but you will say, it lasts quite little (sometimes 4h), and it must be changed often. and pay to lay the rope.

I would answer, that for my part, from the moment when we break such a hill (s-gut poly) in less than 4 hours, we must invest in a machine. a good machine costs around $ 300,

the calculation is quickly done:

if you have a string for 4 hours, and you play for 4 hours / week, a machine will pay off very quickly!

it's simple: imagine: a multi or a poly, which lasts you around 8 hours.
it's been about 26 times that you bring your racket to string.

imagine a medium string, like the weiss cannon silverstring, or the plasma signum, the msv hex, the kirschbaum evolution or so much string at $ 7-8. the installation will cost you about $ 10. which will make you around $ 440 for a year of tennis. for 26 strings.

now consider a machine, at $ 300, which will last you about 10 years.
if we spread the cost of the machine over this period, it represents an investment of $ 30 per year, and a reel of any of the strings mentioned above does not exceed $ 80, for 17 rackets, so, if we consider that you change your string 26 times, it comes down to about $ 160 per year of string, to which we add the $ 30 annual investment for 10 years, it saves you quite a bit. (compared to $ 440 annually.) less than half.

and here I am talking about good quality and brand strings. Without being a defender of Pro's pro, if you consider a string as a concept, like red devil, blackout eruption, or cyberpower, your tennis court would cost you less than $ 90 for about 34 rackets.
and you can't even imagine what a year of S-gut / poly hybrid costs.

for this year, i passed for two types of hybrids:
1) mantis power synthetic (54 $ reel) / polyfibre higthtec poly 1.10mm (49 $ reel): itself tenviron 3.50 $ the hybrid set!
2) mantis power synthetic ($ 54) / dyreex whisper ($ 69) or $ 4.10 per set.

so if I calculate quickly, $ 226 for 60 sets of
string ... as I replace my strings every 6 hours, approximately, so once a week, I would have about $ 18 per month of tennis to have a string always very efficient and fresh.

if I had to count the price of the new machine, it would have cost me around $ 300, even if I used one machine per year (to imagine huh), a year of tennis would cost me $ 526! for 52 set of strings laid. by depositing my rackets with a pro, at the rate of approximately $ 20 per racket, it would cost me approximately $ 1050 (52 weeks, and $ 20 per week)
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where did you get the mantis from?.....I love their stuff
 
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lucieisland

Semi-Pro
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d'où avez-vous obtenu la mante? ..... J'adore leurs affaires
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UK Tennis Shop
 
taydbear7

taydbear7

Professional
g4driver said:
IMO, the best company for multis does exist. Tecnfibre offers a lot great of multis at various prices. Wilson's lineup is pretty solid also.

Some companies have one or two multis that really shine. Head's Velocity is a winner along with Rip Control even though they don't have a solid lineup like Tecnfibre and Wilson's.

If I were looking to try multis, Tecnfibre and Wilson are companies with large offerings and nice place to start a search.
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I really like Velocity. Next to try on my list is X1 Biphase.
 
Garro

Garro

Rookie
My favorites are NXT and PPC. Unfortunately I can't seem to get PPC to play the way I want to whenever I string it myself. For that reason I'm going to try a few alternatives to it like Sensation Control and Head RIP Control.
 
Tennease

Tennease

Legend
Nowadays my favourite multifilament is full bed of Alpha TSB-03 GEO 16G hexagonal multifilament.

After trying the fullbed again and again, I can say that this full bed holds tension well and lasts for so long. It has so much bite on the ball, and a lot of feel as well. It has so much control. It's not as soft as Alpha TSB-05 Claycourt string, but it is softer than Head Velocity MLT.
 
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JustTennis76

Hall of Fame
I have great things to say about Prince Premier Control 16 and Head FXP. They work well for me in mains with a smooth poly cross like Prince Beast XP or Prince Tour XR respectively. They are very crisp and offers very decent spin potential and great feel. They last about 10 to 12 hours in a hybrid before breaking. FXP is very slick and easy to string as well. I liked velocity too but didn't have enough reps to make a definitive decision. I am mostly playing with gut/poly in winter but will switch to PPC hybrid in summer. These 2 multis are under $10 a set which I like. Other premium multi I liked was Tecnifibre NRG2 but it falls on the high price side. I also have a few packets of Head Rip Control but durability is an issue for me with that string. Stringing is also not that much fun with rip. Hope this helps.
 
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golden chicken

Hall of Fame
Garro said:
My favorites are NXT and PPC. Unfortunately I can't seem to get PPC to play the way I want to whenever I string it myself. For that reason I'm going to try a few alternatives to it like Sensation Control and Head RIP Control.
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Ever consider NXT Control?
 
mike schiffer

mike schiffer

Semi-Pro
Tennease said:
Nowadays my favourite multifilament is full bed of Alpha TSB-03 GEO 16G hexagonal multifilament.

After trying the fullbed again and again, I can say that this full bed holds tension well and lasts for so long. It has so much bite on the ball, and a lot of feel as well. It has so much control. It's not as soft as Alpha TSB-05 Claycourt string, but it is softer than Head Velocity MLT.
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where do you get it from?
 
Tennease

Tennease

Legend
mike schiffer said:
where do you get it from?
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Ali Express app. Sent from China.

This multifilament string feels like a very soft polyester. It reminds me a bit of Gosen Polylon comfort. It's slightly underpowered but with my heavy racquet and racquet head speed I can generate power with it.

I just wonder if it is wrapped in polyester material??? It hasn't frayed after so many times using it.
 
Garro

Garro

Rookie
golden chicken said:
Ever consider NXT Control?
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I've tried it but it's always felt dead and too low powered for me, although it is comfortable. I've been meaning to try it in a low tension setup (<=48 lbs) to see how it would play.
Recently I've also had better success in stringing PPC by prestretching it first.
 
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eah123

Professional
Tennease said:
Nowadays my favourite multifilament is full bed of Alpha TSB-03 GEO 16G hexagonal multifilament.

After trying the fullbed again and again, I can say that this full bed holds tension well and lasts for so long. It has so much bite on the ball, and a lot of feel as well. It has so much control. It's not as soft as Alpha TSB-05 Claycourt string, but it is softer than Head Velocity MLT.
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mike schiffer said:
where do you get it from?
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TW sells Alpha Gut 2000 which looks similar.
 
Tennease

Tennease

Legend
eah123 said:
TW sells Alpha Gut 2000 which looks similar.
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The Alpha TSB-03 GEO has hexagonal shape.
The Alpha Gut 2000 has round shape.

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graycrait

graycrait

Legend
I've been stringing pink and blue Multifeel in a few good older (60+ yr old players rackets who have been using poly for years because - well I don't really know (yes I do, "It never breaks!"). But once I explained poly and it's benefits for the "new" topspin game since Kuerten, its short practical life, etc, etc, to a man none of those who have used Multifeel feel compelled to go back to poly. I string a couple of other older player's rackets who really like NXT as an alternative to natural gut, they are extremely flat hitters over 70 yrs old, but play a really nice game and are fun to hit with.
 
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LocNetMonster

Professional
Just got these today from Mayami to demo. When the string is released next March it will be called 'Perfection' according to the company.

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AceyMan

AceyMan

Professional
LocNetMonster said:
When the string is released next March it will be called 'Perfection' according to the company.
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You gotta love those Asian-to-English translation miss-hits.

Of course, no slight is intended—I hope it plays awesome—but these product name "eyerolls" just tickle me to no end.

/Acey
 
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bluejay205

New User
Absolute favorite by far is NRG2. I play with a 16x19 string pattern therefore prefer the 16g strings. Normally with a tighter string pattern, I would go with 17g, and tried but after a week the strings move around and although I know that doesn't affect the playability it still bothers me. Also, I'm not sure if its me but I prefer the black strings. I'm not sure if its the layer of ink or not but it feels more crisp then the natural color. I also like that I can play with these strings until they break and not feel like I am losing any playability. I tried x1-biophase but I didn't feel as connected to the ball.
 
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LocNetMonster

Professional
AceyMan said:
You gotta love those Asian-to-English translation miss-hits.

Of course, no slight is intended—I hope it plays awesome—but these product name "eyerolls" just tickle me to no end.

/Acey
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Except it is not an Asian company :laughing: Mayami is located in the Ukraine and the name is comes from the owner's wife's first name Maryna (Ma), his first name Yaroslav (Ya) and the family name, Milchenko (Mi). And yeah, I hope it plays awesome, too. Going break it out on Thursday in a single match before sitting down to Thanksgiving.
 
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FIRETennis

Professional
If you hit with spin and modern technique, the multi full bed will last 30 minutes to 1 hour before locking up and playing horrible.
I tried multis in the cross and that was quite nice as it softened the poly mains however mains got stuck out of place after 30' to 1h'
I've tried multis in the cross with gut mains and that was horrible as there was no snapback of the gut.
So far the best setup has been multi Velocity mains, poly crosses. Lots of spin, great comfort... I would say 80% of the feel of gut/poly.
 
Orion

Orion

Semi-Pro
I'm loving TF Triax as a cross with VS in a Gravity Pro. I got a month out of the Triax hitting 2-3 times a week before it started to fray and the gut started pressing through. I used string savers in crosses 2 through 12. Just restrung the crosses, tension was still there but playability was shot. The drop off was more immediate than a dead poly. Don't plan on using string savers on the new crosses. In hindsight I'll be bringing the savers down to cross 14/15.
 
Orion

Orion

Semi-Pro
Ares2323 said:
Has anyone tried hybrids with smooth poly and triax cross?
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See my post below. Currently using with VS mains. I'm in ❤!! Will keep me from tinkering through the winter. Worth the price of admission for my wrist. Every time I think a poly in some iteration is a good idea all it takes is trying to squeeze a few more hours out of it before I'm paying the price in pain the next few days.
 
Ares2323

Ares2323

Rookie
Today I had the opportunity to play with multi stronig project gold. Wow! the first time I got such a spin with a full multi. The thrust is a bit sharper than other multi's but still very comfortable. It has less power and a very good spin. I played 2 hours of hard hit and there are only light cuts.

Has anyone played multi with this?
 
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LocNetMonster

Professional
Final update on the Mayami Perfection demo. I put it in a Wilson Brave with Magic Twist in the crosses. Light notches after the first two hours but last about 17 hours total, 2/3 of that heavy hitting. Honestly like this hybrid ... a lot ... after I got in sync with the string bed. No arm discomfort whatsoever after 2+ hour sessions. Having played five hours with this installation, there are four or five strings that are notched about half way through. For the performance, comfort and price, I think this will be a good buy next year. It played great right up until it popped today.
 
gold325

gold325

Hall of Fame
Amazing Combo, very arm friendly and very soon friendly.

RPX / Triax Mains : 55 lbs
Ghostwire Crosses : 51 lbs.

Frame : Prince Phantom 100

This combo locked up in less than a week. Now using FULL BED Ghostwire at 48 lbs. Feels softer than TRIAX on its own.
 
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blai212

Hall of Fame
LocNetMonster said:
Another amazing combo, also very arm friendly is Triump mains and Ghost Wire crosses. Seems to be durable in an 16x20 frame, too.
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I did triumph 1.30 mains/tour xp 1.25 cross at 44/38 in my vcp97 310g. Nice soft feel but after an hr of 4.5 level hard hitting, the mains started notching and becoming displaced like crazy (I hate crooked string bed). Velocity lasts a bit longer but multi just does not last for 4.5 hard hitters IMO.
 
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LocNetMonster

Professional
blai212 said:
I did triumph 1.30 mains/tour xp 1.25 cross at 44/38 in my vcp97 310g. Nice soft feel but after an hr of 4.5 level hard hitting, the mains started notching and becoming displaced like crazy (I hate crooked string bed).
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Really didn't have a problem with strings staying straight with the Ghost Wire crosses but did notice notches in the sweet spot after about an hour and a half in the 16x20, which was Triump 16g mains at 54# and 19g GW crosses at 50#. Also tried the same setup in a 16x19 frame with a little bit more open pattern. It was notched with the first half an hour.


blai212 said:
... but multi just does not last for 4.5 hard hitters IMO.
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At your level playing singles, anything over an hour and a half of singles is a bonus in terms of longectivty. That said, IMO, this is a solid and economical setup for doubles players who value control, touch and comfort.
 
taydbear7

taydbear7

Professional
LocNetMonster said:
Really didn't have a problem with strings staying straight with the Ghost Wire crosses but did notice notches in the sweet spot after about an hour and a half in the 16x20, which was Triump 16g mains at 54# and 19g GW crosses at 50#. Also tried the same setup in a 16x19 frame with a little bit more open pattern. It was notched with the first half an hour.




At your level playing singles, anything over an hour and a half of singles is a bonus in terms of longectivty. That said, IMO, this is a solid and economical setup for doubles players who value control, touch and comfort.
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I know a 4.5 player that plays FB of multi. He plays doubles only though.
 
4sound

4sound

Semi-Pro
I've tried a bunch of multi's over the years, then always just go back to NRG2. The feel and consistency of NRG2 is amazing.
One thing I did notice is the Black NRG2 feels stiffer to me than the natural color (I know this is weird but I've strung multiple racket back to back with each to compare).

I did like X-Biphase (felt a bit more lively to me) but it didn't seem to be that much different to justify the extra cost.

In the end it's personal preference.
 
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Peter Dervan

Rookie
WestboroChe said:
So basically what you’re saying is that all multis are the same and the OP should just consider price? As compared to natural but? I totally disagree. The whole point of a multi is that you can mix and match different fibers together get a different response. So for example the fiber bundle of X one bi phase produces a very soft comfortable result with little spin potential. On the other hand Prince PPC has a crisper feel with more spin potential.

Both these strings give me about 25 hours of playability before they lose tension and I cut them out.

Prince Premier Control costs less than $10 a set. Whereas natural gut goes for about $40. Some people say gut hold tension until it breaks but this seems to be far from an established fact. Factor in the fact that gut does not like heat and humidity and I don’t see why I would use it. It just seems like an unnecessary way to make an expensive hobby even more expensive. Maybe your budget for tennis is much larger than mine?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your point
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I’m trying to pick an optimal string for a pro staff 90, but I rule gut out completely because I actually want a light weight stringbed to bring down the swingweight and make it that bit easier to use. So I’m left with 1.25 multis, or thin gauge poly options. Just another angle to the discussion here folks.
 
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Artanis

Semi-Pro
Played a lot with Xcel, a bit with Biphase and also tried Velocity.
Now stopped at Gosen AK Pro CX, comfortable, crisp and durable. Ideal for me.
 
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