Meles
Bionic Poster
Watching laver cup twitter.
2018 Laver Cup - Chicago, USA
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icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
ohh okay i was wondering if it was still streaming,checked back on amazon prime andthey were doing a replay so was confused
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
i thought they submitted without seeing the other picks although how much you want to bet they'll but djokovic second and federer third so they play nick and kevin
Meles
Bionic Poster
That is only for first day. Team world put in their order first for day two (their choice as home Team.) They get to pick last on Sunday. See post above for day two matches.
oldmanfan
Legend
Hmm, TeamWorld has a good chance to win 2-3 matches tomorrow. Djokovic/Anderson is probably the most NID, but the 3rd set superTB gives Anderson a decent chance.
Meles
Bionic Poster
27/2015 R16 Wimbledon Grass Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-7(6) 6-7(6) 6-1 6-4 7-5 1.04 - 17.00
10/2012 R32 Indian Wells Masters Hard Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-2 6-3 1.03 - 17.00
25/2011 R64 Wimbledon Grass Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-3 6-4 6-2 1.01 - 36.00
18/2011 R32 Madrid Masters Clay Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-3 6-4 1.03 - 17.00
12/2011 QF Miami Masters Hard Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-4 6-2 1.05 - 14.80
13/2008 R64 Miami Masters Hard Kevin Anderson Novak Djokovic 7-6(1) 3-6 6-4 8.00 - 1.05
They've not played on slowish, low bouncing indoor hard. Given the 2015 Wimby result I'd not be so sure after Anderson's confidence from the doubles with Sock. Anderson 2017/18 is a better player than Anderson 2015.
I think Zedrot is toast versus Isner. Borg may have to go with Dimitrov Sunday in singles.
We know the Kyrgios v Fed history pretty well. Fed not playing quite as well this year compared to last; a motivated Kyrgios could easily win.
Team World needs to win three matches tomorrow or they'll be forced into needing three match wins on Sunday.
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Plamen1234
Hall of Fame
Thank God Federer-Kyrgios match is in the day session.Also rematch of Miami final as well as rematch of Wimbledon final.Hopefully the matches will be interesting.I like what I am seeing from LC so far.Anyway have a nice night.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
27/2015 R16 Wimbledon Grass Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-7(6) 6-7(6) 6-1 6-4 7-5 1.04 - 17.00
10/2012 R32 Indian Wells Masters Hard Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-2 6-3 1.03 - 17.00
25/2011 R64 Wimbledon Grass Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-3 6-4 6-2 1.01 - 36.00
18/2011 R32 Madrid Masters Clay Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-3 6-4 1.03 - 17.00
12/2011 QF Miami Masters Hard Novak Djokovic Kevin Anderson 6-4 6-2 1.05 - 14.80
13/2008 R64 Miami Masters Hard Kevin Anderson Novak Djokovic 7-6(1) 3-6 6-4 8.00 - 1.05
They've not played on slowish, low bouncing indoor hard. Given the 2015 Wimby result I'd not be so sure after Anderson's confidence from the doubles with Sock. Anderson 2017/18 is a better player than Anderson 2015.
I think Zedrot is toast versus Isner. Borg may have to go with Dimitrov Sunday in singles.
We know the Kyrgios v Fed history pretty well. Fed not playing quite as well this year compared to last; a motivated Kyrgios could easily win.
Team World needs to win two matches tomorrow or they'll be forced into needing three match wins on Sunday.
why is zverev toast against isner? iirc he has a pretty good record against him including wins this year
marc45
G.O.A.T.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Zedrot was in freefall at the US Open while Isner did well at the US Open. Zedzilla was on display in Madrid and that player is nowhere in sight. I'm predicting Borg pulls him for Dimitrov after he loses to Isner Saturday.
These courts seem slow and low bouncing, just about tailor made for Dimitrov. I suspect Kyrgios will like them well enough. I don't see the low bounce really helping Anderson who hits fairly flat. On paper Fed may like them well enough, but not sure he'll enjoy the protracted ground battles. Isner hits with more spin than Anderson and may like these well enough. Zverev will not like the low bounce, but these courts may be slow enough for him to put up a fight.
If Borg is foolish enough to play Zverev again on Sunday I'd definitely sick Schwartzman on him:
30/2014 R32 Kitzbuhel Clay Diego Sebastian Schwartzman Alexander Zverev 6-1 6-0 2.18 - 1.75
(
yeah this is a young Zedrot, but Schwartzman is also greatly improved.)This would free up Isner and Kyrgios for the other two singles slots:
44/2017 R16 Paris Masters I Hard John Isner Grigor Dimitrov 7-6(10) 5-7 7-6(3) 3.00 - 1.40
32/2017 SF Cincinnati Masters Hard Grigor Dimitrov John Isner 7-6(4) 7-6(10) 1.67 - 2.15
13/2015 R32 Miami Masters Hard John Isner Grigor Dimitrov 7-6(2) 6-2 2.46 - 1.63
10/2017 R16 Indian Wells Masters Hard Nick Kyrgios Novak Djokovic 6-4 7-6(3) 3.30 - 1.35
9/2017 QF Acapulco Hard Nick Kyrgios Novak Djokovic 7-6(9) 7-5 4.00 - 1.22
45/2015 R16 Paris Masters I Hard John Isner Roger Federer 7-6(3) 3-6 7-6(5) 5.50 - 1.13
36/2015 R16 US Open Hard Roger Federer John Isner 7-6(0) 7-6(6) 7-5 1.10 - 6.50
Isner v Fed or Dimi not a bad matchup. Kyrgios v Djoko good.
As I look at the head to heads its a bid odd that Zverev did not get Anderson given he's never lost to KA and beaten him four times. THAT LOOKS LIKE A HUGE MISTAKE BY BORG.
ak24alive
Legend
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Mirka is not amused
Enceladus
Legend
I hope that on this year's LC will happen match Djokovic-Kyrgios, when not on Saturday, hopefully on Sunday. I would like to see how the resurrected Djoker will deal with Nick.
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Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Yeah, I also want a Kyrgiovic match to happen.
Don't worry, it's gonna happen. It's gotta happen.
Team Europe got to pick the matchups for Saturday. You just have to put Roger against Nick. Kyrgios has beaten Djokovic both times they played in straight sets and would probably be a 60-40 favorite against Zverev, but he's only beaten Roger once, even though most of the matches have been close. It's 4-1 Roger with Laver Cup thrown in and the only time Nick beat him was 12-10 in the third-set tiebreaker. So it's a tough ask for Nick. I think it will be closer than the U.S. Open because Nick loves Laver Cup and likes facing his hero. But at the same time, Roger also loves Laver Cup (he won his team the most points last time, undefeated) and also gets up for playing Nick, I think. After that, I think Europe sees a sure thing with Djokovic-Anderson, so they will take it, and then Zverev-Isner is 50-50, and doubles is basically a concession. Team Europe winning that would be the day's biggest shocker by far.
I am going to guess all of the matches tomorrow will be end up being close, with Anderson sneaking a surprising tiebreak set and an inspired Dimitrov helping capture a set in doubles.
So ... Isner beats Zverev in 3 close sets, Fed beats Kyrgios in 3 (maybe all tiebreaks again!), Djokovic beats Anderson in 3 (wins first easily then Kevin surprises in a close second set) and World doubles wins in 3, splitting the day, and giving us a total of 7 Europe, 5 World.
On Day 3, Europe gets to pick order, but World gets to pick matchups. It will be ...
Doubles:
Zverev-Goffin (or Edmund)
Singles:
Dimitrov (unless Zverev really impresses tomorrow, but Dimitrov has been the best player on this surface so far)
Djokovic
Federer (could be flipped with Novak, but hey it worked last year!)
World will answer:
Sock-Isner win doubles in two, taking the lead: 8-7
But Dimitrov answers by beating Anderson: 10-8
Then you get Kyrgios, angry over another Fed loss, beating Djokovic in extended third-set tiebreak: 11-10
It all comes down to the final matchup for the win ...
Federer beats Isner in 3 sets to win the Laver Cup again for his team, 6-7 (14-12), 6-1, 10-5 tiebreak
If all three are healthy while the Laver Cup is in Switzerland? You know Rogi is going to guilt all three into playing and making it the best thing ever. Imagine that ... Day 1 doubles: Roger and Andy Day 2: Roger and Novak. Day 3: Roger and Rafa!
The Internet wouldn't be able to handle it.
That's a Donald Trump-style "alternative fact."They've got the h2h between Djoker/Anderson the wrong way round.
Did you see any of the selfies for Team Europe? Zverev looked like some kind of deformed giant and Novak an emaciated hospital patient hidden behind him.
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Red Rick
Bionic Poster
He's only taller cause he has a longer neck. His shoulders are the same height as Federer and Federer is a lot wider.
clayqueen
Talk Tennis Guru
Never noticed that but now you say it I can see it.
Genie Of the Bank
Hall of Fame
Novak always sucksed as a double player.
enlightenment
Semi-Pro
Watching the highlights Federer's volleys are excellent, but only when he's already at net.
I think we can surmise that the problem is his movement when serve-volleying. Maybe he needs to mix in more kick serves into his 1st serve if he's going to employ S/V as a tactic, as well as going bigger with his flat serve. Otherwise with his medium pace 118mph serves his opponents seem to be reading it and when he approaches net the ball is at his feet.
I think we can surmise that the problem is his movement when serve-volleying. Maybe he needs to mix in more kick serves into his 1st serve if he's going to employ S/V as a tactic, as well as going bigger with his flat serve. Otherwise with his medium pace 118mph serves his opponents seem to be reading it and when he approaches net the ball is at his feet.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
what kind of joke is this ? Roger and Novak blew these guys away in the majors just this year.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
his volleys suck bad and he doesn't know how to serve and volley in doubles. You can always tell a stinky bad player if they don't serve and volley in Doubles.Novak always sucksed as a double player.
Genie Of the Bank
Hall of Fame
I notified them and they fixed itThey've got the h2h between Djoker/Anderson the wrong way round.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Paul Annacone said on tennis channel.... ..." This is 25 % Tennis and 70 % Nerves....." So what is the other 5 % ???????? and exactly what kind of nerves is he talking about ? making sure you good handsome for the hot girls in the crowd ?
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Yes.
And body serves.
Nobody ever uses body serves enough
Except maybe Roddick vs Nadal in the 2004 USO.
150mph body serves baby
150mph body serves baby
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes.
And body serves.
Nobody ever uses body serves enough
Except maybe Roddick vs Nadal in the 2004 USO.
150mph body serves baby
MILOSH is the gold standard.
Just checked up his match chart from the 2016 AO QF win against
He served 35 wide serves (winning 74%), 33 body serves (winning 73%), and 33 T-serves (winning 79%) in that match. Pretty perfect spread.
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Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Sorry
Had to choose between 2 core principals of mine
1. Always speak truthfully
2. Never say anything positive about Milosh Raonic
It was a rather easy decision.
But really body are more important for bigger servers.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Djokovic reaction was hilarious when he hit Fedr
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Clay lover
Legend
The take away? Fedal >> Fedovic
Jokes aside, Djoker really seems quit lost on a doubles court. Poor shot selection and placement are commonplace and he just isn't as comfortable moving forward.
Jokes aside, Djoker really seems quit lost on a doubles court. Poor shot selection and placement are commonplace and he just isn't as comfortable moving forward.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
What is with blaming Novak for the loss and saying he was uncomfortable? I thought he held his own quite nicely actually and was rock solid in the super tiebreak. It was actually Roger's double fault at 4-4 in the super tiebreak and another backhand error at 6-7 that were costly after they came back from 4-7. Djokovic had a great save in that super tiebreak when Roger poached and left the line open and kept them in it. I thought everybody played pretty good actually but Sockerson were too impenetrable on serve with how hard they were serving. Besides it's just for exhibition, they had fun and their team is still up 3-1.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
fed mugged it up during the super tb no doubt and unfortunately messed up during big points (lord that serve is still failing him when it counts like it has all year) but i think its obvious who is more comfortable playing doubles. I don't think there is anything wrong with saying novak did look uncomfortable atleast during the first set before he got settled into the match. commentators were point it out as well. I did have to laugh though that when it got to baseline rallies, fed didn't even bother taking over...he was like nope novak take this please.
in any case he wasn't to blame either. as you said i think sockerson were the favorites mostly due to sock to begin with.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Yea but it's seems like not only are they saying he was not as comfortable but want to just take a shot at Novak and blame him for the loss. He will never be as great of a volleyer as Roger nor as comfortable at net but he's competent enough up there and did his part. It was his return and his backhand that were not up to par if we are being honest, not his volleys. He didn't return good at all when his team really needed that to get some type of advantage and I think Federer's serving went down a bit in the second set. All in all though good effort from Djokerer but Sockerson just served too well for them.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
its fine, i got twitter being like roger messed this up for novak. its all good, you;ll have people like that plus i took some of the comments on here in jest.
in any case the best thing to come from this is novak hitting fed in the back, trying to massage it, and their conversation afterwards with fed calling him bro and novak being like his heart stopped for 3 seconds and then their weird shoulder bumpwhen they got first set.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
They're both human and it's no biggie. I'm sure they both enjoyed playing with each other even though they lost.
Yea definitely cool moments throughout.
rainingaces
Legend
Anderson and Isner are in the race for the top 8 why are they playing this glorified exhabition? ROTW have 0 realistic chances.
Thiem is probably laughing at them.
Thiem is probably laughing at them.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Djokovic on relationship w/ Federer after #LaverCup.."We spend the whole day in the locker room chatting about different things in life & getting to know each other That kind of quality time can only strengthen the relationship & respect was there is there & will be there forever
ak24alive
Legend
Did you get to watch the doubles?
