2021 Geneva Open R16 :- Roger Federer v/s P. Andújar

[Deleted member 748597]

Problem is unlike Nadal, he doesn't practice hard enough. That little light pitter patter he calls practice is never going to get him ready for real matches.

He just showed us his shoes.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Fed needs a bit....

 

[Third Serve]

Roger playing possum ahead of a Belgrade 2 WC and field sweep next week. Book it.

Belgrade 2: Electric Boogaloo

 

[Deleted member 770948]

If he had the mental strength of Rafa or Novak he would have 30 slams. I’m not even kidding

And Federer would only win 10 slams if he had the injuries of Nadal....
Federer is a mental giant, look at his record in 5-setters and tiebreakers.
Nadal lost from a break up in the 5th Set at 2012 and 2017 AO Finals........and lost 2015 USO after leading Fognini 2-sets-to-love, and again with Tsitsipas at 2021 AO....

 

[Zeref]

He must play RG at any cost. Going to Wimbledon with 0 match practice and without tuning his ground strokes on clay would be a disaster.

I don't think he would be taking Belgrade WC though.

 

[TheNachoMan]

Fed needs a bit....

Kachigga

 

[SinneGOAT]

It’s kinda sad that a guy like De Minaur is playing better than Roger Federer. I guess that’s what happens when you don’t play for a year.

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Roger playing possum ahead of a Belgrade 2 WC and field sweep next week. Book it.

If he really wants more match play, he'll ask for WC.

But if he wants money for playing, then no WC. I'll tell Novak that.

 

[GhostOfNKDM]

Problem is unlike Nadal, he doesn't practice hard enough. That little light pitter patter he calls practice is never going to get him ready for real matches.

For that he’ll need Nadal’s doc

Normal human beings are going to huff and puff trying to get back in shape.

 

[DIMI_D]

Roger using the buggy whip FH which generally means he's getting to the ball slowly. He was using that shot a lot in Doha too.

Grandpa Fred why is he still playing?

 

[ewiewp]

The guy needs to do two things. Either play more or just retire. This stuff with appearing in one tournament and bowing out is lame.

I think one real issue is the timeframe of ATP ranking system's return.
If 1 year system returns in August(next revise time),
it's going to take a long time for Federer to recover his ranking at the age 40.
AFAIK, WTA has returned to somewhat adjusted 1 year system.

 

[Stanzad]

Some massive overaction going on in here. Fed is not done.

The usual haters and hypocrites.

 

[DIMI_D]

It'll improve with time.
Needs competitive match play

He will at laver cup this year

 

[Rickenbacker4003]

We'll see his true level and desire for the game when the grass season and olympics arrive. If he still can't muster up a convincing performance at these events then it's time to just hang it up. He's 40 in August, he's got a ton of money and accomplishments to lean on. There's little reason left for him to grind on the tour anymore. His legs look done. The forehand, volley and serve are there. The backhand doesn't handle pace as well nowadays. We will see how badly he wants it, but being 40 is a major factor.

 

[aman92]

Should definitely play RG to get match practice... Can't just turn up on grass after ages and expect to coast through without match fitness

 

[davced1]

Very confusing end to the match. It would be easier to accept the loss if he was not playing well but he was and it looked like a sure win until he was broken back. I want to believe he will be ready for Wimbledon and I am sure he will.

 

[ewiewp]

We have to cut The Maestro some slack. The guy has played 3 matches in he last 23 months. That's an impossible task for anybody to come back from. How many matches did Nadal need to get out of his funk from 2015? How about Djoker from 2017-2018? They certainly needed more than 3 matches in 2 years t scrape off the rust.

The only advantage Federer is his age. Because he turns 40 in 2 1/2 months, he's had more practice.

?? Pablo is 35 by the way. The entire tour has gotten old.

 

[EllieK]

Couldn’t watch. Just checked the score. Gutted

 

[Sorry_to_tell_you_mate]

Federer played so bad that even the "King of choking" Andujar only choked 2 matchpoints before taking the third.

 

[chjtennis]

Huge upset this peak Federer has lost.

Seriously, this is nothing more than a 40 yo who has barely played handful matches in the last 12 months losing to a once decent clay player. It's just unclear how well Federer will be able to play in the following matches at this point.

 

[ewiewp]

Very confusing end to the match. It would be easier to accept the loss if he was not playing well but he was and it looked like a sure win until he was broken back. I want to believe he will be ready for Wimbledon and I am sure he will.

Besides understandable lustiness, it's actually looked like a typical match of Federer when he failed to win deciding sets.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Don't think Federer stands any chance at Wimbledon. Fitness level still lacking. I don't see much decline in his game but guy is getting tired after couple of hours of play. How you can win bo5 with this?

 

[Stratotanker]

The doom and gloom here is just depressing lol

Fraud fans really are the granddaddies of all handwringers

Ugh. Those are Fed fans saying that? I thought it was just Nole fans hating in here. The “I hate my own guy” fandom is exhausting.

 

[ewiewp]

Dang, I suddenly lost interest in Geneva Open.
Should I continue watching it? LOL.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

You need to relax buddy. His 2nd match of the year. Obviously he is not gonna own everyone. This is an unfortunate result as he could have had some more games in but what can you do.

He will need some time.

Yes some more time to be on lockdown and get fat.

 

[GhostOfNKDM]

Grandpa Fred why is he still playing?

He wants to know for sure he’s done before he hangs it up.

Champions are the last to know. They wouldn’t be champions if they didn’t believe in themselves when nobody else does.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

He isn’t done but he isn’t truly back either.

Truth is probably more complicated and ugly.

He’ll need some ugly wins before the artist can emerge, even if for brief periods

The guy needs to play more but whateva. It seems like he’s putting all his focus towards the grass season. Hope the rust doesn’t come back to bite him in the fanny. You just can’t turn the switch on and off.

 

[Milanez82]

I was unable to watch the match, can someone sum up shortly how was Federer, movement wise
I see he lost and assume lots of UE?
Tnx

 

[Thriller]

Roger Federer is 39.
That's no age.

 

[ewiewp]

Huge upset this peak Federer has lost.

Seriously, this is nothing more than a 40 yo who has barely played handful matches in the last 12 months losing to a once decent clay player. It's just unclear how well Federer will be able to play in the following matches at this point.

Totally understandable. (By the way, Pablo is 35, not too young).
Real issue is whether he can gather enough points before 1 year ATP ranking system returns.
That would be critical for Federer's decision on his retirement, I think.

 

[octobrina10]

Fed took a leaf out of Rafa's book in the 2nd set:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1394665295785205765

Translated from French via Google:
Quentin Moynet:
¤¤ The position of Federer's return in the 1st set (left) vs the 2nd set (right).
Result, the Swiss managed his first break of the match at 4-6, 1-1 ¤¤

 

[DIMI_D]

Should definitely play RG to get match practice... Can't just turn up on grass after ages and expect to coast through without match fitness
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He will get to 3rd or 4th round of Wimby

 

[D.Nalby12]

Problem is unlike Nadal, he doesn't practice hard enough. That little light pitter patter he calls practice is never going to get him ready for real matches.

That is so true. Never seen him hitting real shots in practise. His practise is kind of kid's play. How this man brings serious Tennis after no real practise is beyond me. But it doesn't help when you're recovering your old fitness levels.

 

[Red Rick]

Andujar with the 1-0 h2h!

Wait Andujar's about 82 years old himself they'd never played before?

 

[DIMI_D]

Should definitely play RG to get match practice... Can't just turn up on grass after ages and expect to coast through without match fitness

He withdrew already from RG lubey has to protect his clients legacy, clay is to slow for Grandpas liking

 

[Red Rick]

Roger’s not in great shape no matter how he looks shirtless or whatever.

Legs gave out in the third. He was winded between games. Never ever seen him in poor conditioning... unitl that Millman match at the USO.

He’ll need a lot of work to get anywhere close to sniffing week 2 at a slam

The scary thing is that it's 3 months since Doha and he still struggles this much in Bo3.

 

[CleaN]

Dang, I suddenly lost interest in Geneva Open.
Should I continue watching it? LOL.

Of course, Fogna is still there and looking good.

 

[DIMI_D]

They knew wasn’t as the right level still not pretty obvious now. Will be his last year, if he came back relatively well would of continued for longer now it’s apparent he can’t go on

 

[3fees]

Congrats to (75)Andujar blnt (5)Federer 64 46 64 No surprise here I figured he'd lose quickly being off the circuit for over a year.

Cheers
3Fees

 

[ewiewp]

He withdrew already from RG lubey has to protect his clients legacy, clay is to slow for Grandpas liking

No, he is contracted to show new Uniqlo outfit at RG.

 

[SinneGOAT]

Today is a bad day for the good tennis.

 

[DIMI_D]

No, he is contracted to show new Uniqlo outfit at RG.

They are a rubbish brand, very cheap

 

[Martin J]

Watched just last few games, it seems Fed struggled a bit with Andujar's pace. Anyway good to see him hitting again, hopefully will be ready for grass so we can watch him more.

 

[Ray Mercer]

He should be in better shape than he is. He has the funds to fly guys in and play serious sets. Fly in good opponents and offer cash bonuses for taking sets off him so they go all out. With all of the time he's had to just train he should be in better shape. It absolutely sucks seeing him lose to bums. He was younger in 2017 but when he came back he was in much better form.

 

[TheNachoMan]

No, he is contracted to show new Uniqlo outfit at RG.

switching to Lacoste was the best thing Novak ever did

 

[davced1]

Watched just last few games, it seems Fed struggled a bit with Andujar's pace. Anyway good to see him hitting again, hopefully will be ready for grass so we can watch him more.

No last few games was an anomaly. Federer dictaded with his forehand for most of the match.

 

[Martin J]

No last few games was an anomaly. Federer dictaded with his forehand for most of the match.

Thanks, will look for the highlights.

 

[Ray Mercer]

He was moving slow side to side and having to stretch for squash shots that he would have got to in the past. I don't know if he's scared to go all out in training out of fear for the knee but he's not going to do anything in this form.

 

[Keystoner]

Look how many tournaments it took Djokovic in 2018 after his minor elbow surgery.

How many was it? My memory is that his first tournament back was Cincinatti (I know it wasn't, actually), where he had Federer's number like he never lost it.

 

[chjtennis]

Totally understandable. (By the way, Pablo is 35, not too young).
Real issue is whether he can gather enough points before 1 year ATP ranking system returns.
That would be critical for Federer's decision on his retirement, I think.

He's basically a part-timer now. Playing in a tournament without seeding is one of the things he has to get used to. He will drop more and more points as he concentrates on slams and his preferred big events, and eventually, old players all get the same problem of being unseeded. It will be tougher to get through the whole tournament, but that's just the way it is.