Aerogel 300 Appreciation Society

[Rabbit]

This won't help you now, but in the future, don't buy Tour versions. Buy regular sticks (or even Team versions) and add lead wherever necessary.

I did this with the M-fil 300 and with Pure Storms. It is beyond me why knowledgeable players buy Tour versions, UNLESS they know without doubt that the stock specs are either fine or they will want to add weight.

I don't understand this. The 300 16X19 and the 300T are really not that close IMO. I don't know that weight would make a difference on the 300 16X19 as the Tour has a denser string pattern which makes it feel different. Their the same price, so I don't know why you'd opt for the 16X19...

Can you elaborate?

 

[Keifers]

I don't understand this. The 300 16X19 and the 300T are really not that close IMO. I don't know that weight would make a difference on the 300 16X19 as the Tour has a denser string pattern which makes it feel different. Their the same price, so I don't know why you'd opt for the 16X19...

Can you elaborate?

Also the beam widths of the regular and the Tour are different. I much prefer the thinner beam.

 

[rlau]

looks like a junior racquet, although I've never seen it before.

Indeed, the picture shown at the link below seems to confirm that it is a junior racket:

http://www.doittennis.com/rackets/dunlop/juniors-mfil-25.php

Anyway, I'm sending it back and the seller agreed to give a refund.

 

[DavidGarcia]

Got this today:

http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _001.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _002.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _003.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _004.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _005.jpg
http://www.rob-laumen.nl/DunlopAerogel300TourTwentySeven _006.jpg

Have a close look at the bridge and buttcap. This must be a fake...

Looks like I have been conned....

That is NOT a fake dunlop, dont think there is any FAKE dunlop in the world!

That is the 300 for juniors. I've seen it around at my local shop.

 

[DavidGarcia]

i really like the 300 myself. I can be more precise and go for lines more with the 200, though. I probably play most consistently with the 300...so I may just end up with a new aerogel 300.. problem is there aren't any more 16x19 in the grip i want

I have an old m-fil 300 that i've liked in the past...

Do you have your 300 16x19 in stock form?

I am sure you can find 300s on the bay!

 

[DavidGarcia]

Indeed, the picture shown at the link below seems to confirm that it is a junior racket:

http://www.doittennis.com/rackets/dunlop/juniors-mfil-25.php

Anyway, I'm sending it back and the seller agreed to give a refund.

You could perhaps try to lead it and see if that works out for you...hehe....just kidding!

 

[DavidGarcia]

Also the beam widths of the regular and the Tour are different. I much prefer the thinner beam.

The beams in the 300 16x18 are thinner than the tour. Also the 300 16x19 feel thinner.

The tour beam width is 20mm but then are quite bulky.

 

[hyogen]

i'm about to get the 300g mp from long ago. remember hearing really good things about this racquet

 

[Rabbit]

Picked up my other two 300Tours yesterday. Stripped 'em, regripped 'em, strung 'em, and weighed 'em. The results didn't surprise me somehow:

1. 331 g
2. 331 g
3. 331 g

Pretty good QC

 

[fantom]

Picked up my other two 300Tours yesterday. Stripped 'em, regripped 'em, strung 'em, and weighed 'em. The results didn't surprise me somehow:

1. 331 g
2. 331 g
3. 331 g

Pretty good QC

Nice! Dunlop continues to impress me.

 

[dadozen]

Picked up my other two 300Tours yesterday. Stripped 'em, regripped 'em, strung 'em, and weighed 'em. The results didn't surprise me somehow:

1. 331 g
2. 331 g
3. 331 g

Pretty good QC

NICE! Rabbit, do they have different batch numbers on their buttcaps?

 

[dadozen]

Indeed, the picture shown at the link below seems to confirm that it is a junior racket:

http://www.doittennis.com/rackets/dunlop/juniors-mfil-25.php

Anyway, I'm sending it back and the seller agreed to give a refund.

Good to know that the seller agreed for a refund!

 

[dadozen]

Also the beam widths of the regular and the Tour are different. I much prefer the thinner beam.

Me too. For me, the thinner the better.

The beams in the 300 16x18 are thinner than the tour. Also the 300 16x19 feel thinner.

The tour beam width is 20mm but then are quite bulky.

I remember grabbing a 300 16x18 sometime ago and the beam wasn't thinner than my current 300Ts. Also, it's strange that the regular 300 16x19 feels thinner for you, because for me it's the exactly opposite: it feels much thicker.

 

[jms007]

I've decided to stick with the 4D 300T as my main. I was playing with it part time along with my Fischers, and they're both just about as good racquets as you can get. In the end, I went with the Dunlop primarily because of the weight. The Fischer just made me too tired to serve with throughout a whole match.

 

[dadozen]

I've decided to stick with the 4D 300T as my main. I was playing with it part time along with my Fischers, and they're both just about as good racquets as you can get. In the end, I went with the Dunlop primarily because of the weight. The Fischer just made me too tired to serve with throughout a whole match.

Which Fischer model do you have?

 

[Rabbit]

Also the beam widths of the regular and the Tour are different. I much prefer the thinner beam.

Yep...me too. That was my main complaint about the Volkl V Cat 8, it had a 24mm beam. It just felt wrong in my hand, well to my right hand anyway.

Nice! Dunlop continues to impress me.

Yes they do. Something else I noticed which was one thing I loved about the cosmetics of the old Yonex RD Tour(s) is that the Dunlop 300T has a clear coat over the braided graphite which just looks cool.

NICE! Rabbit, do they have different batch numbers on their buttcaps?

I'll have to look when next I'm home!

 

[jms007]

Which Fischer model do you have?

the Red/Black Pro No. 1 SL.

 

[Rabbit]

I've decided to stick with the 4D 300T as my main. I was playing with it part time along with my Fischers, and they're both just about as good racquets as you can get. In the end, I went with the Dunlop primarily because of the weight. The Fischer just made me too tired to serve with throughout a whole match.

I am the same. My 300T's weight 331 g which is 24 g's less than my C10s. The balance feels way more headlight than the AG100 and they are an easier swing. My mates tell me that I hit better with the 300T's, so I'm going to give them a whirl. I have to add, from my sensitive side, that the 300T's are better looking IMO. They have the best cosmetic of any Dunlop since the MW200.

 

[dadozen]

I am the same. My 300T's weight 331 g which is 24 g's less than my C10s. The balance feels way more headlight than the AG100 and they are an easier swing. My mates tell me that I hit better with the 300T's, so I'm going to give them a whirl. I have to add, from my sensitive side, that the 300T's are better looking IMO. They have the best cosmetic of any Dunlop since the MW200.

Totally agreed with the bold part. I just love how they look and, IMHO, the AG 4D 300T is the best looking racquet from all the 4D line.

I'm also thinking about adding some lead to the handle or the butt cap just to check how it performs. Thing is I'm just too lazy:lol:

Rabiit, don't forget to tell us the numbers on the butt caps when you get home! I'm really interested to know if they are so close spec wise even if they have different number!

thanks a lot!

 

[jms007]

I am the same. My 300T's weight 331 g which is 24 g's less than my C10s. The balance feels way more headlight than the AG100 and they are an easier swing. My mates tell me that I hit better with the 300T's, so I'm going to give them a whirl. I have to add, from my sensitive side, that the 300T's are better looking IMO. They have the best cosmetic of any Dunlop since the MW200.

I agree they look pretty *****in'. And i like the thinner beam too.
My Fischer wasnt quite as heavy as your CT, maybe 15g heavier than my Dunlop. But still, that half an ounce makes all the difference with serving endurance and reaction shots. I was a little worried it wasn't going to be as stable as my Fischer, but I played a big server yesterday...didn't really have problems with stability there, so that sealed the deal!

 

[PimpMyGame]

I shifted the lead on my AG300 16x19 from 3 and 9 to 10 and 2 (or maybe even a little further up). They've probably slipped from 8pts HL to 4 or 5 but they seem much more stable. Serves also seem much better, has anyone tried this?

This week I played 2 dubs matches and 1 singles match and haven't dropped a set. In fact I have only dropped serve 3 times in 7 hours play!

 

[Rabbit]

I agree they look pretty *****in'. And i like the thinner beam too.
My Fischer wasnt quite as heavy as your CT, maybe 15g heavier than my Dunlop. But still, that half an ounce makes all the difference with serving endurance and reaction shots. I was a little worried it wasn't going to be as stable as my Fischer, but I played a big server yesterday...didn't really have problems with stability there, so that sealed the deal!

Same here. The 300T acts like it weighs a lot more while still not weighing a lot more.

 

[dadozen]

Same here. The 300T acts like it weighs a lot more while still not weighing a lot more.

Right on. The 300T has all the qualities of heavier racquets without being heavier:twisted: Stability, plow-through feeling, and others...

That's one of its greatest qualities.

 

[DavidGarcia]

Me too. For me, the thinner the better.



I remember grabbing a 300 16x18 sometime ago and the beam wasn't thinner than my current 300Ts. Also, it's strange that the regular 300 16x19 feels thinner for you, because for me it's the exactly opposite: it feels much thicker.

The 16x18 feel much thinner to me although they are both 20mm. The 16x19 is true that is 1.5mm thicker.

Is it only me or anyone else who's held both rackets think that the tour feels bulkier than the 16x18?

 

[DavidGarcia]

I shifted the lead on my AG300 16x19 from 3 and 9 to 10 and 2 (or maybe even a little further up). They've probably slipped from 8pts HL to 4 or 5 but they seem much more stable. Serves also seem much better, has anyone tried this?

This week I played 2 dubs matches and 1 singles match and haven't dropped a set. In fact I have only dropped serve 3 times in 7 hours play!

Nice one.

Could you tell me all your setup on your aerogel 300?

 

[hyogen]

Do you have your 300 16x19 in stock form?

I am sure you can find 300s on the bay!

Yes, mine is an mfil 300 16x19.



anyone wanna compare the 4d, mfil, or aerogel with the old 300g series? i think that is the hotmelt series.

 

[hyogen]

i like the looks of the aerogel 300. the design of the mfil and the new 4d 300 and 300t look too busy.

 

[PimpMyGame]

Nice one.

Could you tell me all your setup on your aerogel 300?

Wilson leather grip, overgrip, 20p piece in the trap door (!) 5g lead each side at slightly higher than 10 and 2. Rubber cuff and smiley dampener gives total weight of 340g.

I recently bought a Wilson 6.1 classic which weighs in at more than 360g. I thought I'd be able to use that thing because I was used to heavier rackets but my AG300 is so much easier to swing.

 

[dadozen]

OK guys, yesterday I've tested the Big Ace Micro on my racquets and I'm amazed how soft this string is.

I've dropped the tension a bit from my old stringjob( BA 1.22mm mains @ 59 and Maxim Touch @ 63 crosses ), and it's perfect.

I'm really impressed how soft and comfortable this string is, since I couldn't use a full poly stringjob before, but I had absolutely no problems using this one. I'm sure that the tension drop helped a bit, but I think that I couldn't use any other full poly stringjob.

Spin is fairly better than the regular BA 1.22mm, and the best part is that BA Micro feels as solid as the regular BA, with much more feel and pop. It's great how this string doesn't have the characteristic dull and dead feeling from polys, being much more syn gut like. It doesn't move at all, and it's perfect for 18x20 string patterns( my case ). I used a lot of slice serves, and adding the fact that I was playing on a hard court to it, my hitting partner had a lot of problems returning them. I was very pleased, because I don't practice that often anymore since I did when I was younger, so my slice serves are unconsistent.

Also, it's slitghtly more powerful than BA 1.22mm, what also suits my game, since I'm a weekend competitive player, with long swings, but with no time to work at the gym to be able to handle full low-powered poly stringjobs.

So, I end up getting the best( for me ) from syn gut world and poly world: comfort, feel and power( everything not as like, but similar or fairly close to ) from syn guts and control, no string movement and better spin from polys.

I'm glad I bought two reels of it. The only aspect I couldn't check yet is durability, but it's not a big issue for me, since I'm not a heavy string breaker and I don't play several times a week, so I'll even enjoy if it breaks before going dead.

Cheers!

 

[shell]

I just ordered a reel of Maxim Touch, and I was giving some serious thought to the Micro. Now I wish I had added a package or two to try out. I don't generally like poly, but a very soft one might be fun to try out.

Thanks for the recommendation Da D.

 

[dadozen]

I just ordered a reel of Maxim Touch, and I was giving some serious thought to the Micro. Now I wish I had added a package or two to try out. I don't generally like poly, but a very soft one might be fun to try out.

Thanks for the recommendation Da D.

You're welcome Shell, we're all here to help

You can try it as a full job or as an hybrid with Maxim Touch. I've done this and I liked it a lot, but I just prefer a full poly stringjob.

Comparing a BAM x MT hybrid to a BA(1.22mm) x MT hybrid, the BAM hybrid gives slightly more spin and feel, besides the comfort. You won't regret it

 

[Keifers]

I just ordered a reel of Maxim Touch, and I was giving some serious thought to the Micro. Now I wish I had added a package or two to try out. I don't generally like poly, but a very soft one might be fun to try out.

Thanks for the recommendation Da D.

Hey Shell,
I have a set of BA Micro. I'll send it to you to try.

 

[dadozen]

Hey Shell,
I have a set of BA Micro. I'll send it to you to try.

Didn't like it?

 

[shell]

Hey Shell,
I have a set of BA Micro. I'll send it to you to try.

Oh, thanks Keifers! How is the demo going?

 

[Keifers]

Didn't like it?

No, I haven't tried it. Thought Shell might like to give it a try...

Oh, thanks Keifers! How is the demo going?

No worries, Shell. We have fairly similar tastes, and I'm looking forward to reading your comments.

Just about finished with the demo. Dunlop sticks are so good!

 

[cj6666]

How does Maxim Touch compare to multifilemant, say NXT Tour 17, in terms of comfort and feel? Can anyone comment?

I made the mistake of stringing the hybrid at the same tension for poly and multi and it is hard on the arm. Have to cut up the strings and re-string. What a bummer.

 

[shell]

How does Maxim Touch compare to multifilemant, say NXT Tour 17, in terms of comfort and feel? Can anyone comment?

I made the mistake of stringing the hybrid at the same tension for poly and multi and it is hard on the arm. Have to cut up the strings and re-string. What a bummer.

cj, I have not played with NXT Tour, but I have with the regular NXT. Maxim Touch seems a little softer and a little less powerful than what I remember from NXT. Not as soft as something like Rip Control, but not as crisp and powerful as something like X-1 Biphase. Maybe a good comparison would be Technifibre MultiFeel. And those were all full sets for me. At the price of Maxim Touch and MultiFeel (around $8 per set, less with a reel), it should make a pretty good hybrid string I would think.

 

[cj6666]

Hi Shell, Thanks for your reply. Maxim Touch is definitely my next string to try. I will probably also order Rip Control too. Locally I can not find a store stocking those strings.

These string are like a hybrid in itself, no? Since it got multi-filament core and then poly coating...

Next to natural gut and NXT, why do you like Maxim Touch? Durability?

Thanks, CJ

 

[dadozen]

What I really like about Maxim Touch was its comfort. Perfect to be used with poly on a hybrid stringjob. No wonder why Pro Supex sells sets with both of them.

It's very soft, comfortable and easy on the arm. A full stringjob would be too powerful to me, so I didn't try it. Also, I didn't like the fact that this string gets really dirty if you play on clay.

 

[shell]

What I really like about Maxim Touch was its comfort. Perfect to be used with poly on a hybrid stringjob. No wonder why Pro Supex sells sets with both of them.

It's very soft, comfortable and easy on the arm. A full stringjob would be too powerful to me, so I didn't try it. Also, I didn't like the fact that this string gets really dirty if you play on clay.

DaDozen is superman, all powerful!!! CJ, Maxim Touch in a full set for me, and I am female and not a hugh hitter, is about comfort. It is not so powerful that I can't control it, but yet offers a nice comfy stringbed with enough punch for a nice compromise. I actually am going to hybrid it with nat. gut mains - the gut providing some power and nice feel, the maxim touch with soft yet durable crosses. The coating stands up to the rubbing of the gut mains and doesn't saw through them. I ordered 16g, because most of my multi sets of Technifibre were 17g and don't stand up to the gut.

I think it would make a nice cross for poly, but I haven't played much with poly, so I defer to DaDozen or others on that.

And unfortunately, as my knees today tell me, I play always on hard courts - so dirt from clay is not an issue for me like it might be for others.

 

[cj6666]

Thanks, dadozen and shell, just ordered two packs for my next string job. I am all into comfort ever since I got tennis elbow last season. Now it's all healed but I am still quite sensitive.

 

[Vicious]

Alright. I love my brothers Dunlop m-fil 300, but find to much power and its a bit to much weight. I found this, and its now nicely priced:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCDUNLOP-DAG300.html


I currently use a Wilson Ncode and don't really.... Enjoy it.

What would you recommend for the stringing of this one? And Tension?

 

[Galdust]

Got my 4D 300Ts this week and have really enjoyed playing with them I'm not sure if I'm going to try some lead tape because I'm really satisfied with the way they feel atm. I have none experience with lead tape either, so therefore I'm not sure where to put it. Anyone with the 300T applied some lead tape to it? Guess I'll buy some and experiment with my old Prince racket to see how placement and weight affects it...

 

[Vicious]

Any clue on what to use for those strings?

Wilson Stamina?

 

[shell]

Any clue on what to use for those strings?

Wilson Stamina?

What do you normally use? The AG 300 is not that radically different than the MFil 300, so I would probably start out at your normal tension with your normal string. You can go from there. I would mention that the stringing tension that Dunlop lists (55-65) tends to be a bit tight for most people. I would start out around 55 lbs, or even lower if you are used to that, and adjust as needed.

It plays great with gut, multis or polys. You will find many reviews and setups in this thread. Take a little time to browse through the thread for specific setups of various users. We really can't tell you what will work for you.

Good luck with your new racquet - the Dunlops are great all-around racquets, and have a lot to offer.

 

[dadozen]

A little update for my BAM stringjobs:

I'm still in my first stringjob( my other 2 racquets also have BAM ), and it's going strong. I guess it's quite near to break, judging from the saw marks on the mains( after around 4 hours ).

The string has started to move quite a bit, althout it doesn't feel dead yet. It still plays nice, soft and spin-friendly. The string movemente doesn't bother me, since it's not huge and I like rearranging them into the right place, and I can understand that since it's such a soft string.

My arm didn't feel any harm at all and the racquet feels more stable with thie stringjob than with my old hybrid ones.

I'm in love with this string. I'll try Kisch PLII as well sometime in the future, since I also bought a reel of it, but I'm already considering this as my main setup.

 

[dadozen]

DaDozen is superman, all powerful!!! CJ, Maxim Touch in a full set for me, and I am female and not a hugh hitter, is about comfort. It is not so powerful that I can't control it, but yet offers a nice comfy stringbed with enough punch for a nice compromise. I actually am going to hybrid it with nat. gut mains - the gut providing some power and nice feel, the maxim touch with soft yet durable crosses. The coating stands up to the rubbing of the gut mains and doesn't saw through them. I ordered 16g, because most of my multi sets of Technifibre were 17g and don't stand up to the gut.

I think it would make a nice cross for poly, but I haven't played much with poly, so I defer to DaDozen or others on that.

And unfortunately, as my knees today tell me, I play always on hard courts - so dirt from clay is not an issue for me like it might be for others.

Nah, I'm not this strong Shell But I agree that a full MT stringjob must be REALLY comfortable. Can't even imagine that. Paradise for sure

This stringjob with gut/MT must work really well too. A very comfortable and with lots of feeling on the mains and a very soft and durable string on the crosses, yet not harmful to the mains. It will certainly last very long without losing its initial properties. Keep us updated Shell!

 

[dadozen]

Got my 4D 300Ts this week and have really enjoyed playing with them I'm not sure if I'm going to try some lead tape because I'm really satisfied with the way they feel atm. I have none experience with lead tape either, so therefore I'm not sure where to put it. Anyone with the 300T applied some lead tape to it? Guess I'll buy some and experiment with my old Prince racket to see how placement and weight affects it...

Welcome to the club Galdust! And I'm really glad to know that you've been loving them! It's quite an amazing racquet indeed!

I don't have lead on mines, but what people usually do with this racquet is adding a coupld grams @ 12 or @ 2 and 10, just to raise the SS a bit. I'm stringing the crosses tighter and with a full poly setup, which is working really well for me so far.

Any clue on what to use for those strings?

Wilson Stamina?

I once tried Wilson Stamina and honestly, IMO, it was one of the worst strings I've ever used. No feeling, little control, yet feeling stiff and harsh. Also, no bite. Didn't like it all, I even cut them out of my racquets.

Actually, what I usually tell people who ask advice for strings, is that you don't have to stick with racquets brands, because what they do best is exactly that: racquets. There are SO MANY great brands out there who are specialized on strings that this post would be short to name most of them, but Pro Supex, Luxilon, Kirschbaum and MSV are some of them. Babolat also makes great strings, since it' what they started doing.

But, racquet brands also make very good strings, especially because they have to provide their pro players something they like

 

[DavidGarcia]

One silly question which I hope some of you can answer me.

In the 300 16x18 (stock form). If you put a ovegrip (5g) to the grip.
- Are you making the racket one point more head light?
- how many grams do you need to put in the grip in order to increase 1 point head light?

 

[Fedace]

Is the 4D aerogels that much better ? I think it is more stable than the previous aerogels. I thought it was just a gimmick but it seem to twist less on off center hits ???