Andre Agassi: Federer-Nadal era is ending

[jamesblakefan#1]

Yep.

In tribute, I'm quoting him in my very first signature.

Wow I'm kinda honored. :lol:

I really do think he can win one though, if he refocuses, plays aggressive more often, and serves more effectively, he can definitely win one and I believe will win one.

 

[batz]

Wow I'm kinda honored. :lol:

I really do think he can win one though, if he refocuses, plays aggressive more often, and serves more effectively, he can definitely win one and I believe will win one.

I hope you're right buddy.

I also wish I shared your seemingly absolute faith. Mine has taken a bit of dent this year if I'm honest.

Still firmly on the bandwagon though!

 

[Telepatic]

Assuming Agassi is right I'll bring out my opinions about potential successors:

I think Murray can win GS only on HC and thats probably fast HC>>USO.
But as someone said, currently, his game is not really suitable for winning grand slams, needs to be more aggressive and there could be some mental blocks from winning GS (like Safina has)..It would also be good for his personal image to change some of his bad behavior (of course I'm speaking about disgusting yelling on opponents UE-s).

As for Del Potro, guy is great but it looks like he depends alot on his physical strength (obviously according to his powerhouse groundstrokes..) but beside that he got great mental predispositions and potential clutch serving to save him thanks to his height, he's also behaving great on court and off court.If he doesn't become too injury prone like Nadal he surely got bright future ahead.

As Novak fan, I believe hes either gonna step it up big time playing good old super aggressive tennis again (late 2007-early 2008 ) or hes gonna become a half pusher with occasional winners produced by some aggressive strokes and thus fall down the rankings and become decent consistent top 10 player (top5 at best assuming new guys who appear on tour in future aren't that great competition), which would be a shame for his potential in my opinion.
As others probably noticed, he also depends too much on confidence which could effect his career by a large margin if he fails to deliver on tour for a while.

 

[Azzurri]

nice to see you delivering on annoyance!

Nadal is a BEAST!!!! He owns Fed like no one else. Fed can't handle all that wacky spin nadal produces. Nadal makes Federer cry.

 

[mandy01]

Nadal is a BEAST!!!! He owns Fed like no one else. Fed can't handle all that wacky spin nadal produces. Nadal makes Federer cry.

 

[tangerine]

Andre Agassi: Federer-Nadal era is ending

I sure hope so, then the glorious Roddick era (Aug 2003–Jan 2004) can return.

 

[Azzurri]

oh Mandy. I thought you knew me better.

 

[UsualSuspect]

Nadal is a BEAST!!!! He owns Fed like no one else. Fed can't handle all that wacky spin nadal produces. Nadal makes Federer cry.

This is clear bait. Angry posters will see that comment and have a field day.

 

[Azzurri]

This is clear bait. Angry posters will see that comment and have a field day.

but its true..what is the arguement?

 

[jamesblakefan#1]

but its true..what is the arguement?

And you say you're a Fed fan? Please. You're a Fed fan just like I'm a Djokovic fan. :lol:

With fans like you, who needs enemies.

 

[World Beater]

but its true..what is the arguement?

federer is owned by nadal. no question about it. yes federer is a mug agreed.

the same krajicek that used to get owned by mental head case goran and slammed by loud mouth rusedski could play his regular game and still take petey to school on grass and on most surfaces. straight sets demolition. petey was krajicek's prison bia#ch even at wimbledon.

santoro sliced up petey on clay. delgado, schaller. lmao. pre-pubescent federer took down sampras in 5 sets when petey was serving 69%. his best weapon firing. LOL.

pete losing to feeble yzaga. that is like federer losing to rochus. haha. what a power player this petey is!!!!!!

petey losing to corretja twice - indoors and on grass after having chances to win both matches. i thought pete was the most mentally tough GOAT ever. thank goodness USA had roddick - he saved our ass in that tie!!!

I love petey...its true, but where is the argument?

 

[SerbWhoLovesDelPo]

Assuming Agassi is right I'll bring out my opinions about potential successors:

I think Murray can win GS only on HC and thats probably fast HC>>USO.
But as someone said, currently, his game is not really suitable for winning grand slams, needs to be more aggressive and there could be some mental blocks from winning GS (like Safina has)..It would also be good for his personal image to change some of his bad behavior (of course I'm speaking about disgusting yelling on opponents UE-s).

Mostly correct. But remember he had some bad luck in AO and USO this year (sick in AO and some wrist problems at USO), which are the 2 slams where he has the best chance.

As for Del Potro, guy is great but it looks like he depends alot on his physical strength (obviously according to his powerhouse groundstrokes..) but beside that he got great mental predispositions and potential clutch serving to save him thanks to his height, he's also behaving great on court and off court.If he doesn't become too injury prone like Nadal he surely got bright future ahead.

I am a little worried seeing the last 2 matches Delpo played. It is true that he was injured and a little burnt out after USO victory, but both Roger-Vasselin and Melzer somehow managed to expose his limited game. He seemed like a very one-dimensional player in those 2 matches. We'll see how it goes for him in Basel, Paris and London.

As Novak fan, I believe hes either gonna step it up big time playing good old super aggressive tennis again (late 2007-early 2008 ) or hes gonna become a half pusher with occasional winners produced by some aggressive strokes and thus fall down the rankings and become decent consistent top 10 player.

He is really turning into a pusher. He plays more and more like Rafa and Murray, which is very bad because he will never be able to make sick passing shots like Murray or retrieve impossible balls like Nadal.
It seems like he adjusted his game to beat Rafa on clay, which may backfire big time in the future.
And most players become less aggressive as they age, so I'm not sure if Novak will ever return to his old game.

 

[TheTruth]

Trying to predict the future of a great player is tremendously difficult. Someone here already mentioned the case of John McEnroe not winning a major after 1984. Nobody saw that coming in January of 1985.

Here's an even better one: imagine for a moment that you (the 2009 you) have magically been transported back to the summer of 1980. It is early August. Bjorn Borg has just won Wimbledon a few weeks ago for the fifth straight time, beating McEnroe in an epic five-set match. This is the tenth major of his career (five French Opens, five Wimbledons). He is 24 years old, and playing the greatest tennis of his life, seeming to get better with each passing year since his career took off in 1974. If he wins the upcoming US Open, as seems likely, he will take the unusual (for him) step of going down to Australia in December to try to complete the Grand Slam.

He is being called by some the man who will go down in tennis history as the greatest player of all time, no questions asked. You offer knowledgeable tennis people (writers, commentators, other top players) a choice of two propositions:

1) Bjorn Borg will win ten more majors in his career.

2) Bjorn Borg will win one more major in his career.

I think the majority of those knowledgeable people, the OVERWHELMING majority, dare I say, would pick number one. The idea at that point the Borg would win only one more major would have probably seemed slightly ludicrous. Yet we here all know the real history.

Predicting the future is hard.

Absolutely agree. Because a pro/pundit gives an opinion doesn't make it any more knowledgeable than the educated tennis fan.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Murray is going to win some GSs, but won't dominate as much or for as long as Fed or even Nadal. Nor will Del Potro, for that matter. There will be a hiatus at the top in terms of longstanding domination.

 

[henryshli]

I agree Federer and Nadal's dominance is coming to an end - probably in the next couple of years or so. It has to end at some point but I thought Nadal would last a bit longer.

i just hope that the next best thing in tennis isn't Murray. That wouyld be bad for the game both on and off the court. He doesn't have the personality or carisma to promote the game of the on court flair that would wow the spectators.

 

[Azzurri]

federer is owned by nadal. no question about it. yes federer is a mug agreed.

the same krajicek that used to get owned by mental head case goran and slammed by loud mouth rusedski could play his regular game and still take petey to school on grass and on most surfaces. straight sets demolition. petey was krajicek's prison bia#ch even at wimbledon.

santoro sliced up petey on clay. delgado, schaller. lmao. pre-pubescent federer took down sampras in 5 sets when petey was serving 69%. his best weapon firing. LOL.

pete losing to feeble yzaga. that is like federer losing to rochus. haha. what a power player this petey is!!!!!!

petey losing to corretja twice - indoors and on grass after having chances to win both matches. i thought pete was the most mentally tough GOAT ever. thank goodness USA had roddick - he saved our ass in that tie!!!

I love petey...its true, but where is the argument?

i agree 100% with this post.

 

[Telepatic]

Mostly correct. But remember he had some bad luck in AO and USO this year (sick in AO and some wrist problems at USO), which are the 2 slams where he has the best chance.

I think he was just fine at AO this year, its just Verdasco was really hot in that period and he's aggressive player>>Murray lose.As for USO, I'm not sure of any injury but its possible.

I am a little worried seeing the last 2 matches Delpo played. It is true that he was injured and a little burnt out after USO victory, but both Roger-Vasselin and Melzer somehow managed to expose his limited game. He seemed like a very one-dimensional player in those 2 matches. We'll see how it goes for him in Basel, Paris and London.

He obviously needs to prevent falling down mentally after huge win at USO (of course, I'm talking about taking things easily and some other stuff..), as I said, he got all predispositions so hopefully he'll recover from current injury.

He is really turning into a pusher. He plays more and more like Rafa and Murray, which is very bad because he will never be able to make sick passing shots like Murray or retrieve impossible balls like Nadal.
It seems like he adjusted his game to beat Rafa on clay, which may backfire big time in the future.
And most players become less aggressive as they age, so I'm not sure if Novak will ever return to his old game.

Yes, I'm afraid hes going more and more to pusher mode, hopefully, he'll realize on time that it ain't gonna work, I'm starting to see more and more Nadalish passing shots from him and less BH DTL-s and thunder forehands..Its working, he's still worlds top player but it sucks because hes using more potential with aggressive style of play..

 

[World Beater]

i agree 100% with this post.

good.

sampras and federer are both mugs.

either that or they are both goats.

haha.

 

[Azzurri]

good.

sampras and federer are both mugs.

either that or they are both goats.

haha.

correct, you got it..

 

[kartelite]

And almost 9 years later, these two players are #1 and #2 in the rankings and have won the last 6 Grand Slam titles.

The only thing I get from this is Agassi is a clown. So are many of you, based on your prognostications.

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Bump

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Still waiting for it to over :- Agassi

 

[BHud]

Another brilliant statement from Pete's biatch...ya think?

 

[Deleted member 756486]

He was correct in a way, Novak started to dominate not too long after he said that.

Idemo!

 

[TahoeTennis]

 

[Poisoned Slice]

He was correct in a way, Novak started to dominate not too long after he said that.

Idemo!

 

[EloQuent]

Oh what a beautiful bump. Agassi lololol

 

[clout]

LOL I love it when ppl bump up these super old threads

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Maybe he's right in terms of *domination* but I still think they will carve up the majority of the major titles for a few years to come.

French Open: Nadal is always going to be favourite for this, and if he goes out then Federer is favourite. The players Agassi mentions can't touch either of them on clay.

Wimbledon: Federer and Nadal will be the two favourites for this for the next few years. One of the players Agassi mentions (probably Murray) may take one of the next four Wimbledons. Federer and Nadal will take the other four.

Australian Open: The hard courts there are slow enough for Nadal to be a big threat, and fast enough for Federer to be a big threat. Djokovic and Murray may pick up one apiece in the next four years.

US Open: This presents the best chances for the chasing pack, but I still think Federer has one more US Open title in him.

Masters Shields: Rafa will consistently be the most successful Masters player each year due to his domination of the clay court season.

My predictions for slams in the next four years:

AO: 2 Nadal, 1 Djokovic, 1 Murray
FO: 3 Nadal, 1 Federer
W: 3 Nadal, 1 Federer
USO: 1 Federer, 1 DelPo, 1 Murray, 1 Djokovic

RF/RN: 11, The Rest: 5

The biggest threat to this IMO is someone completely new bursting onto the scene, possibly a clay court specialist who can take down Rafa at Roland Garros.

Dang this guy makes modern day VBERS look like Fred fans

 

[clout]

Agassi is afraid that Rafa and Fed will break his masters series record of 17

Nadal- 32 masters
Federer- 27 masters
Djokovic- 30 masters

Crazy how things can change

 

[clout]

Yes, 28 & he played in all 4 slam finals this year, winning 2 of them. Has anyone else done that, at 28, in the open era?

I can see Fed going strong until he reaches 31. I don't see Nadal win anymore slams past his 28th birthday.

What about past his 32nd bday

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Nadal and federer might not win a grand slam ever again.

Just saying

Nadal and federer might not win a grand slam ever again.

Still saying.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

Nadal and federer might not win a grand slam ever again.

Still saying.

Username checks out lol.

 

[clout]

The most common things I see from these old posts is that Nadal is gonna burn out by 2(x) years old, Fed is done winning slams already (even back in 2009) and Murray will be dominant. Now in June 2018, there's no way I don't LOL at all of those