Andy Murray threatens his health, says Dr. Hannes Rudiger

[Enceladus]

According to Dr. Hannes Rudiger exposes Murray to the risk of blood poisoning if he strains his artificial hip by playing professional tennis.

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Andy Murray reportedly faces the prospect of cobalt poisoning in the blood if he continues playing tennis.

Specialist medical practitioner Dr. Hannes Rudiger, of the Zurich-based Schulthess Clinic, has warned “catastrophic consequences” could await the Brit if continues to compete with a metallic hip.
Murray underwent hip resurfacing surgery earlier this year and was pain free as he won the European Open title last week.
However, Rudiger has seen first hand the negatives of such procedure and urged the three-time Grand Slam winner to execute extreme caution.
“To be honest: I would not have thought such a thing possible,” Rudiger told Swiss newspaper Blick of Murray’s comeback.
“For me it was a mission impossible to reach such a level with an artificial hip again. But Murray is also taking a high risk.
“The operation is known as ‘Birmingham Hip Resurfacing’. In the implanted prosthesis, two metal surfaces rub against each other.
“Ten years ago, this method was already used in Switzerland – often with catastrophic consequences.
“The hips had to be replaced much faster than with the conventional surgeries – such procedures damage the body sustainably.”
Murray has been taking it easy on his road to recovery and only made the step up from doubles to singles prior to the US Open.

But Rudiger believes the consequences of playing sport with a metal hip are so severe he refuses to perform such surgery for any of his clients.
“The stop-and-go movements are extremely damaging, the more so at the professional level,” Rudiger added.
“It comes to the fact that the abrasion of the plates can lead to cobalt poisoning in the blood.
“The bones can be attacked, also nerve and visual damage are possible.
“I actually got requests for ‘Birmingham Hip Resurfacing’ interventions.
“But I do not use this method on principle, and I do not recommend it to anyone.”

 

[georgemccauley]

I’m sure Andy knows about all of this. He would have been told of the risks, and frankly if it was as bad as he is making out in the article I don’t think Murray would have made a return to singles. He will be fine

 

[Red Rick]

Assuming medical practices stay the same for 10 years lol.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

I have said it multiple times and I will say it again: Murray should have played/should play himself into form for one last big hurrah at Wimbledon and hang his racquet for good. Let's assume that this year the time to get it right for Wimbledon was too short, so it should be at Wimbledon 2020. Anything else he will regret later in life. He has had a stellar career. He has nothing to prove, nor will he prove anything of importance by continuing playing.

Assuming medical practices stay the same for 10 years lol.

Yeah, he is not aware of that, lol.

 

[Zardoz7/12]

Surely Murray knows the risks? If playing tennis threatened his life he wouldn't play tennis

 

[Chadalina]

Many ppl cannot walk properly after hip surgery, let alone play pro tennis.

He is very lucky, i dont like that he is pushing it. Take your millions and live a pain free life with your family.

Life is much longer than 32, many things left to do

 

[MurraysMetalHip]

There are plenty of ways to suffer blood poisoning from playing sport, regardless of whether you’ve had a hip op or not. it sounds to me like a doctor fancied getting his name in the newspaper.

 

[blablavla]

Many ppl cannot walk properly after hip surgery, let alone play pro tennis.

He is very lucky, i dont like that he is pushing it. Take your millions and live a pain free life with your family.

Life is much longer than 32, many things left to do

You probably confuse something.
In Europe hip surgery is a standard surgery and people usually have a better life (movement wise) after the surgery.
Some athletes come back to pro sport, like one of the Bryan brothers.
As the surgeries get better, it's just a matter of time till someone tries to come back in the singles pro tennis.
Top doctors and specialists will learn from Andy.
Years later come back from such surgery might be similar to come back after knee surgery. Go tell Roger or Stan that they should stop pushing it.
Or go tell Novak he shall stop pushing after the elbow surgery. Also please keep in mind that elbow surgeries for pros are even less known and predictable as opposed to hip surgeries.

 

[terribleIVAN]

I’m sure Andy knows about all of this. He would have been told of the risks, and frankly if it was as bad as he is making out in the article I don’t think Murray would have made a return to singles. He will be fine

Wanna take bets ?

You assume cobalt blood poisoning is manageable ?

Remember what doctors told the world about hormone replacement therapy ?

About the safety of amalgam fillings and fluoride ?

Of OGM's ?

Of aspartame and MSG ?

I say he won't be on the tour in 2021.

 

[terribleIVAN]

Top doctors and specialists will learn from Andy.

You got that right.

(That's about the only thing you did, actually)

But not in the way Andy intended....

 

[terribleIVAN]

There are plenty of ways to suffer blood poisoning from playing sport, regardless of whether you’ve had a hip op or not.

From heavy metals ?

Cite them.

 

[Chadalina]

Top doctors and specialists will learn from Andy.

Do you go by "Frank"?

 

[blablavla]

You got that right.

(That's about the only thing you did, actually)

But not in the way Andy intended....

that's always the risk of being a pioneer.
but progress doesn't happen in the comfort zone.

 

[HipRotation]

From heavy metals ?

Cite them.

Eating fish.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

that's always the risk of being a pioneer.
but progress doesn't happen in the comfort zone.

So, you think that Andy should continue playing because, regardless of the effects on his health, he will supposedly forward Science? How generous of you to propose him as a guinea pig for the greater benefit.

 

[blablavla]

So, you think that Andy should continue playing because, regardless of the effects on his health, he will supposedly forward Science? How generous of you to propose him as a guinea pig for the greater benefit.

I think it is his decision as he will live with the consequences.
Do you think he should follow the keyboard warriors sitting on a couch and pretending to know more? How generous of you.

 

[tacou]

I’m sure Andy knows about all of this. He would have been told of the risks, and frankly if it was as bad as he is making out in the article I don’t think Murray would have made a return to singles. He will be fine

Yeah. I doubt Andy has plans to play beyond next year, maybe only to SW/Olympics/USO. If freaking blood poisoning was a likely outcome I don’t think he’d be playing..he has 3 children and already seemed resigned to never playing again earlier this year.

 

[Red Rick]

What's really the issue is Scottish people have a maximum amount of blood they can have in the alcohol in their veins and Murray's way over that limit now

 

[vive le beau jeu !]

as long as he stays away from big cartoon magnets, he should be fine...

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah. I doubt Andy has plans to play beyond next year, maybe only to SW/Olympics/USO. If freaking blood poisoning was a likely outcome I don’t think he’d be playing..he has 3 children and already seemed resigned to never playing again earlier this year.

I think Murray will decide next HC spring if he wants part the bus at Wimbledon/Olympics or if he continues indefinitely.

 

[guitarra]

This is scary if true. Pro athletes are more prone to taking risks so I wouldn't be shocked if Andy knowing all the potential consequences decided to give it a shot.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Not worth it for these 250's. Hip replacements are no joke. Murray is literally being silly.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Wanna take bets ?

You assume cobalt blood poisoning is manageable ?

Remember what doctors told the world about hormone replacement therapy ?

About the safety of amalgam fillings and fluoride ?

Of OGM's ?

Of aspartame and MSG ?

I say he won't be on the tour in 2021.

U WOT M8?

 

[Zoolander]

What a load of rubbish. Back in the 70’s there was a doco on tv about an astronaut who got seriously injured in an accident and had to have artificial metallic implants to repair his injuries. They practically made him superhuman and he could run faster, jump higher, and probably play tennis better than any normal person could. If he could do it, im sure Sir Andy the Great can as well.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

I think it is his decision as he will live with the consequences.
Do you think he should follow the keyboard warriors sitting on a couch and pretending to know more? How generous of you.

I am just giving my opinion. I am under no impression that he will follow my or anyone else's advice here, so that is not why we give our opinions on that matter. If you are under such impression you should avoid any commentary on that site that doesn't concern you personally, or is not in your powers to influence.

As to whether our opinions are correct, we will see, won't we? We just have to wait, but before that we must indicate what those are.

 

[tennis24x7]

You probably confuse something.
In Europe hip surgery is a standard surgery and people usually have a better life (movement wise) after the surgery.
Some athletes come back to pro sport, like one of the Bryan brothers.
As the surgeries get better, it's just a matter of time till someone tries to come back in the singles pro tennis.
Top doctors and specialists will learn from Andy.
Years later come back from such surgery might be similar to come back after knee surgery. Go tell Roger or Stan that they should stop pushing it.
Or go tell Novak he shall stop pushing after the elbow surgery. Also please keep in mind that elbow surgeries for pros are even less known and predictable as opposed to hip surgeries.

I don't think Roger, Stan or Djokovic have something foreign in their body rubbing and producing tiny metal particles, so apples to oranges comparison.

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

Not worried for Andy. Hip replacement surgeries have gotten advanced since just 10 years ago. Hip surgery sounds hardcore, but it isn’t anymore.
a knee replacement is worse recovery and surgery to do.

 

[sureshs]

Murray should switch to pickleball

 

[Meles]

According to Dr. Hannes Rudiger exposes Murray to the risk of blood poisoning if he strains his artificial hip by playing professional tennis.

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After hip surgery: Andy Murray takes a big risk | En24 October

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From Switzerland no less.

 

[Meles]

Wanna take bets ?

You assume cobalt blood poisoning is manageable ?

Remember what doctors told the world about hormone replacement therapy ?

About the safety of amalgam fillings and fluoride ?

Of OGM's ?

Of aspartame and MSG ?

I say he won't be on the tour in 2021.

 

[The Blond Blur]

I'm sure sir Andeh will be fine.

If he keeps upping his level, he'll hopefully comeback like this Logan

Instead of this Logan

 

[blablavla]

I am just giving my opinion. I am under no impression that he will follow my or anyone else's advice here, so that is not why we give our opinions on that matter. If you are under such impression you should avoid any commentary on that site that doesn't concern you personally, or is not in your powers to influence.

As to whether our opinions are correct, we will see, won't we? We just have to wait, but before that we must indicate what those are.

Don't forget that there is always a random factor included.
To make an accurate statement, you would need a big enough sample of Murray's caliber athletes, and then see how many of them will be having blood contamination and how many won't. Only then you can say that such surgery results in xyz chance of a professional athlete getting blood contamination. Everything else is just a kitchen talk.

 

[blablavla]

I don't think Roger, Stan or Djokovic have something foreign in their body rubbing and producing tiny metal particles, so apples to oranges comparison.

yes and no.
Before Djokovic decided to have the elbow surgery all the experts claimed that elbow is pretty much the worst can happen to a professional athlete and chances are the surgery won't help.
Some time in the past having a surgery on the knee was as well equal to full stop of a professional sport career. Yet Federer underwent the surgery. Wawrinka as well.
I guess there is a direct correlation between the number of such surgeries done to professional athlete and their performance afterwards.
The more athletes are getting it, the more the chances of full recovery for athletes with similar injury in future.
The more athletes will be trying to come back after hip surgery, the bigger chances of successful recovery there will be in future. That's all I am saying.
And yes, someone shall be the first one, the second one, etc.

 

[Mainad]

Not worth it for these 250's. Hip replacements are no joke. Murray is literally being silly.

Well, I doubt he's planning to spend what's left of his career on playing 250s. His recovery is a work in progress and Antwerp was just another stepping stone on that path. It proved to Andy that he can possibly still compete at high levels in singles and beating his old friend and rival in the final was added evidence for this. He will take things as they come and see how it goes. It's all he can do given that he clearly wants to continue playing competitive tennis.

Dr. Rudiger is entitled to his opinion but not entitled to go public about it when Andy hasn't asked for it. It was Andy's own hip surgeon who urged him to take up playing again. She clearly doesn't share the Swiss doctor's extremely pessimistic view of hip replacement surgery,

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Not worried for Andy. Hip replacement surgeries have gotten advanced since just 10 years ago. Hip surgery sounds hardcore, but it isn’t anymore.
a knee replacement is worse recovery and surgery to do.

That's why stan's recovery stuns me more than anyone

 

[jm1980]

We already had a thread discussing all of this, which was deleted

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/rumours-have-it-murrays-metal-hip-will-give-away-fairly-soon.655190/

It's all pointless speculation

 

[terribleIVAN]

It was Andy's own hip surgeon who urged him to take up playing again.

What ?

Are you making it up ?

 

[Chadalina]

What ?

Are you making it up ?

Repeat business

 

[Bartelby]

It's an interesting and expert insight into the problems involved with the surgery, so who cares if Andy hasn't asked for his insight. His permission was not sought because it is not required.

Well, I doubt he's planning to spend what's left of his career on playing 250s. His recovery is a work in progress and Antwerp was just another stepping stone on that path. It proved to Andy that he can possibly still compete at high levels in singles and beating his old friend and rival in the final was added evidence for this. He will take things as they come and see how it goes. It's all he can do given that he clearly wants to continue playing competitive tennis.

Dr. Rudiger is entitled to his opinion but not entitled to go public about it when Andy hasn't asked for it. It was Andy's own hip surgeon who urged him to take up playing again. She clearly doesn't share the Swiss doctor's extremely pessimistic view of hip replacement surgery,

 

[Mainad]

It's an interesting and expert insight into the problems involved with the surgery, so who cares if Andy hasn't asked for his insight. His permission was not sought because it is not required.

If he really was that concerned he could have contacted Andy in private to express his misgivings. But to go public and practically demand that a top sportsman whom he does not know immediately stops doing what he loves doing just sounds rude and presumptious. I'm sure Andy has taken all the medical advice he needs from the various doctors who have been treating him including the surgeon who performed his hip surgery and he says they all encouraged him to take up playing again and it would be equally rude and presumptious of me or anybody else, expert or not, to demand he does otherwise.

Maybe he is just shocked and a tad peeved that Andy managed to beat a top Swiss sportsman in a tournament final? I note he has not expressed any public opinion on that sportsman's own decision to resume his career following double knee surgery.

 

[Bartelby]

Whenever a sports person of any fame is injured, the media looks for opinions from experts in the field.

The person is commenting generally on the strengths and weaknesses of the procedure, so these are not private matters and involve no private medical data.

If he really was that concerned he could have contacted Andy in private to express his misgivings. But to go public and practically demand that a top sportsman whom he does not know immediately stops doing what he loves doing just sounds rude and presumptious. I'm sure Andy has taken all the medical advice he needs from the various doctors who have been treating him including the surgeon who performed his hip surgery and he says they all encouraged him to take up playing again and it would be equally rude and presumptious of me or anybody else, expert or not, to demand he does otherwise.

Maybe he is just shocked and a tad peeved that Andy managed to beat a top Swiss sportsman in a tournament final? I note he has not expressed any public opinion on that sportsman's own decision to resume his career following double knee surgery.

 

[zep]

Dr. Rudiger is entitled to his opinion but not entitled to go public about it when Andy hasn't asked for it.

Is he Murray's doctor? Has Murray consulted him? If not it's perfectly okay to express his opinion to the press.

 

[Fedforever]

tad peeved that Andy managed to beat a top Swiss sportsman in a tournament final?

What is it with Andy and Swiss people? Did he once say yodelling was stupid or something? Maybe he complained about the price of the food!!

 

[Mainad]

Whenever a sports person of any fame is injured, the media looks for opinions from experts in the field.

The person is commenting generally on the strengths and weaknesses of the procedure, so these are not private matters and involve no private medical data.

He intruded into private matters when he referenced Andy in person, someone he does not know and has had no personal contact with, instead of confining himself to commenting on on the effects of hip replacement procedures in general and, in any case, was clearly courting publicity by expressing his unsolicited opinions to the media instead of in a respected medical journal.

 

[Mainad]

Is he Murray's doctor? Has Murray consulted him? If not it's perfectly okay to express his opinion to the press.

As far as I'm aware, the responses are 'no' in all 3 cases. If that were me, I would be extremely annoyed that a foreign doctor with whom I have had no contact suddenly presumed to comment publicly to the press on my private medical procedures and lecture me to terminate my career immediately.

Whether he turns out to be right or wrong he should back off and mind his own business.

 

[Mainad]

What is it with Andy and Swiss people? Did he once say yodelling was stupid or something? Maybe he complained about the price of the food!!

Or maybe he just unexpectedly (and annoyingly?) beat Dr. Rudiger's fellow countryman (of whose own recent medical procedures he has not elected to make public comment about) in a tennis final?

 

[zep]

As far as I'm aware, the responses are 'no' in all 3 cases. If that were me, I would be extremely annoyed that a foreign doctor with whom I have had no contact suddenly presumed to comment publicly to the press on my private medical procedures and lecture me to terminate my career immediately.

Whether he turns out to be right or wrong he should back off and mind his own business.

I don't think Murray is losing sleep over this. He has excellent medical care and I am sure he has consulted not one but several specialists. He has nothing to prove. He has won almost everything he could and made enough money that will last at least a couple of generations. He wouldn't risk his long term health if it was that serious. He knows what he is doing. But I don't see absolutely anything wrong with the comments made by this Swiss doctor. He was probably asked by the press and he gave his opinion. He did not reveal any private information. It's perfectly fine and quite common in sports.

 

[Mainad]

I don't think Murray is losing sleep over this. He has excellent medical care and I am sure he has consulted not one but several specialists. He has nothing to prove. He has won almost everything he could and made enough money that will last at least a couple of generations. He wouldn't risk his long term health if it was that serious. He knows what he is doing. But I don't see absolutely nothing wrong with the comments made by this Swiss doctor. He was probably asked by the press and he gave his opinion. He did not reveal any private information. It's perfectly fine and quite common in sports.

Sorry but I disagree. He does not know Murray personally nor his medical history and therefore should not presume to make doom-laden comments about it in public. I'm sure he's got far more important things to attend to that actually concern him.

 

[blablavla]

If he really was that concerned he could have contacted Andy in private to express his misgivings. But to go public and practically demand that a top sportsman whom he does not know immediately stops doing what he loves doing just sounds rude and presumptious. I'm sure Andy has taken all the medical advice he needs from the various doctors who have been treating him including the surgeon who performed his hip surgery and he says they all encouraged him to take up playing again and it would be equally rude and presumptious of me or anybody else, expert or not, to demand he does otherwise.

Maybe he is just shocked and a tad peeved that Andy managed to beat a top Swiss sportsman in a tournament final? I note he has not expressed any public opinion on that sportsman's own decision to resume his career following double knee surgery.

is Andy's telephone number published somewhere?

let's say I have something serious to say, how do I contact Andy in private?

 

[terribleIVAN]

Whether he turns out to be right or wrong he should back off and mind his own business.

How about you taking your own advice ?