Well he has a strong case for sure but as usual you ********* overstate it.
Fed had 4 years of total dominance though. Nadal was a nonfactor off clay until 2008.
Equal slam record holder along with weeks at #1 record, YE#1 record, masters record, big titles record, and equal WTF title record is as close to definitive as you can get. Not to mention winning all slams and masters at least twice.
For me, it is the Game that counts. Alcaraz has a wonderful all court game which reminds me of a two handed backhand, Federer. His game is his charisma. I am looking for a Carlos-Rune match.
Well GOAT means all time not just the era, for the sake of the thread I won't go into the fact that context is important and pure bean counting isn't everything. Like I said he has a strong case, I would accept you saying he has the strongest case infact - just not that it's definitive or a certainty.
Except 2 Wimbledon finals, yeah.
The rationality of your post will soar over the heads of many on this board.
+ three HC masters, 2 SF's at the YEC losing to Fed etc...
He’s handing Nadal a beat down at RG! Piggy roast!
He’s handing Nadal a beat down at RG! Piggy roast!
He did what he was supposed to do.
Why do people keep spreading this myth? Didn't the guy reach 2 Wimb F's in 2006-2007 as well as win 3 masters 1000 on HC?
We'll have to wait and see what happens in the big matches against the big boys. Only then we can confirm.
He will win the French open and maybe Wimbledon too. He’s ready.
Wimb is too early. RG and USO are his best chances.
Always thought he had a really great game.
That’s why I’m happy overall. I feel Wimbledon is the one he will find hardest to win which might be the reason Djokovic sneaks the slam record in end. I’m happy with that scenario you say
How much of that is the conditions and what Carlos made him do tho?
What myth ? What I meant is Rafa wasn't winning slams outside of RG, it's in that sense that he was a nonfactor. I never implied Rog dominated because Rafa was weak.
Rafa wasn't winning slams outside RG in part because of Federer.
I just don't think he had an answer for the pace and shot variety that Alcaraz possesses. There's just no way Medvedev will beat him playing that deep behind the baseline as his drop shot is just too good. That sequence where he had three straight drop shot winners was comical. No other player can do that and I'm not sure any player in the past could ever do that like Alcaraz can.
Who said it wasn't because of Federer ? You're being paranoid thinking I'm saying Rog dominated because it was a weak era and Rafa sucked outside of clay. What I'm saying is Fed was still supremely dominant and even Rafa couldn't stop him at this point. Hence he was a nonfactor, until he was able to stop him outside of clay. So that's 4 years of total dominance for Fed.
Considering Rafa a non-factor until he was actually able to win isn't exactly what I'd call a fair assessment.
I clarified my point already but maybe next time, you should quote me so we can talk, instead of ignoring me like a child and reply to my posts indirectly every time. Not sure why you're doing that.
I was adding to his point. Pretty sure this is the first time as well.
There is absolutely nothing boring about Carlos’s tennis. Any fan of the sport can see that
Because you're thinking I mean a nonfactor in terms of level of play when I'm talking about the impact of his results on Fed's career and achievements. Read the first post I replied to, I was specifically talking about Rog's period of dominance and how long it lasted. Not only 2 years, since nobody stopped that dominance until 2008.
Conditions were slow and windy for most of his matches at IW but he could still keep more than 3 neutral rally balls in play at a time, unlike in the final.
I'm sorry but since when is an IW final against a former number 1 and GS champion with world number 1 on the line not a big match
I think he could be better too. I do look forward to their next meeting off clay.
When I hear questions like this I wonder - for real, not being a tool -how similarly people felt about Rafa back in those early days.
That one word is important.
