Big 3 records that will never be broken

[clayqueen]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

Nadal's triple la Decima

Nadal's longest single surface win streak (Clay courts - 81)

Nadal's 10 consecutive years of winning 1+ grand slam title (2005-2014)

Nadal's simultaneous holding of Olympic singles gold medal and Majors on clay, grass, and hard court

Nadal's Career Grand Slam + Olympic Singles Gold medal + Olympic Doubles Gold Medal

Nadal's highest overall clay court match win percentage - 91.75% (389-35)

Nadal as the only male player to win an Olympic gold medal in singles and an Olympic gold medal in doubles in two separate Olympics in Open Era

Nadal's winning of Rome Masters, Monte Carlo Masters and French Open for three consecutive years (2005-2007)

Nadal's winning of Monte Carlo and French Open for four consecutive years (2005-2008)

Nadal's 8 consecutive titles at any single tournament (Monte Carlo)

Nadal's 46 match win streak at any single tournament (Monte Carlo)

Nadal's 53 Clay court titles

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Federer 23 straight semis will likely last test of time, that is six years of making the semi across all surfaces without missing a slam, beating players from multiple generations, avoiding upsets, handling red lining opponents. To do something like that is just absurd. Doubt we will see it again.

This.

I've always maintained that Fed's 23 major semis streak, 36 major QFs streak and his run of making 18 out of 19 major finals at a stretch are his most insane records.

Say this out loud now: Fed made every major quarters for 9 YEARS straight, every major semis for 6 YEARS straight, and all but 1 major final for nearly 5 YEARS straight.

It is beyond incredible. It is ludicrous, is what it is.

Across opponents, across surfaces, across vagaries of injury, fitness, and form, across guys playing out of their minds on any given day, against guys who are 10 years older than him and guys who are 10 years younger- the guy was perpetually there like clockwork amongst the last handful of men standing at the end of any slam.

It's an unrivaled display of dominance, consistent excellence, and ability across conditions. For all the accolades Fed gets, his longevity and consistency aren't talked about enough outside tennis fan circles.

This might be in contention for the most absurd records in men's tennis, alongside Rafa's 10 RGs and his 102-2 BO5 record on clay.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Jan 1992 was peak Heenan.

First the barber shop, where Michaels superkicks Janetty and smashes him through a legit window. The commentating on that was epic.

And then the legendary Royal Rumble one week later. That was his greatest moment.

 

[MatsPhilander]

Lol, I remember Eugenie Bouchard in 2014 said that she wants to beat that one. Now I guess she should be worried of not getting a streak of 23 first round losses in slams in a row.

She will be lucky to make a slam quarter let alone a slam semi.

 

[clayqueen]

Fed 237 consecutive weeks looks impressive but can be broken in future.

This depends on the strength of the era. If a player has no one in his age group to compete with he can be #1 for a very long time until someone 5 years younger comes along.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

If he can stay fit then who is stopping him? Novak seems to be the only guy with a shot & he has to play 100% & hope Nadal dips.

It never works that way in tennis. Someone always comes along, no matter how good the current guys are.
After RG 2016, people were saying Novak could equal or surpass Fed's 17 titles- and he was dominant over everyone by a crazy stretch. But look what happened.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

This.

I've always maintained that Fed's 23 major semis streak, 36 major QFs streak and his run of making 18 out of 19 major finals at a stretch are his most insane records.

Say this out loud now: Fed made every major quarters for 9 YEARS straight, every major semis for 6 YEARS straight, and all but 1 major final for nearly 5 YEARS straight.

It is beyond incredible. It is ludicrous, is what it is.

Across opponents, across surfaces, across vagaries of injury, fitness, and form, across guys playing out of their minds on any given day, against guys who are 10 years older than him and guys who are 10 years younger- the guy was perpetually there like clockwork amongst the last handful of men standing at the end of any slam.

It's an unrivaled display of dominance, consistent excellence, and ability across conditions. For all the accolades Fed gets, his longevity and consistency aren't talked about enough outside tennis fan circles.

This might be in contention for the most absurd records in men's tennis, alongside Rafa's 10 RGs and his 102-2 BO5 record on clay.

This is why I call Federer - Mr Grand Slam. The greatest grand slam player of all time. His numbers look like Goku powering up in Dragon Ball Super.

 

[King No1e]

Can Nadal win another Wimbledon? Just putting it out there. Its still his 2nd most successful GS in terms of finals, despite his recent crushing losses there.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

When did Rafa get 10 in 5 years?

 

[MatsPhilander]

It never works that way in tennis. Someone always comes along, no matter how good the current guys are.
After RG 2016, people were saying Novak could equal or surpass Fed's 17 titles- and he was dominant over everyone by a crazy stretch. But look what happened.

Eventually it will, but Nadal was imperious this year-not even dropping a set. Hard to see anybody stopping him there in the near future. He might have another 5-6 seasons left if he can stay reasonably fit.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Eventually it will, but Nadal was imperious this year-not even dropping a set. Hard to see anybody stopping him there in the near future. He might have another 5-6 seasons left if he can stay reasonably fit.

I'd agree if I didn't know any better. It looks like Rafa will continue chugging away merrily at RG, but 5 more titles is just too much of a stretch. Maybe 2 more.

 

[King No1e]

When did Rafa get 10 in 5 years?

Typo 6 years, 2008-13

 

[MatsPhilander]

Can Nadal win another Wimbledon? Just putting it out there. Its still his 2nd most successful GS in terms of finals, despite his recent crushing losses there.

Should really just skip it now, be fully fit for the US which he always looks like having a very strong chance of winning.

 

[King No1e]

Should really just skip it now, be fully fit for the US which he always looks like having a very strong chance of winning.

Y tho? He's the only guy since Borg and Laver to have more than one channel Slam. If anything he should skip USO to recharge for the fall season and the elusive World Championship

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Typo 6 years, 2008-13

Which is nowhere close to 11 in 4 years. What are you on about?

11 in 4 years is a rate of 2.75 majors a year.

10 in 6 years is a rate of 1.66 a year. It is a long way away from 2.75. It's a gap of more than one major per year.

 

[Spencer Gore]

Laver winning two Grand Slams.

A GOAT winning only 33% of his Grand Slam matches against his two biggest rivals.

 

[King No1e]

Laver winning two Grand Slams.

A GOAT winning only 33% of his Grand Slam matches against his two biggest rivals.

I love your name!

 

[Spencer Gore]

Bjorn Borg winning 41% of the majors he entered.

Federer's record is 27%. Nadal: 32%. Djokovic: 24%

 

[Red Rick]

Robin Haase's 17 consecutive tiebreaks lost.

Marat Safin 1000+ sticks destroyed (Rublev shows promise though)

Murray holding the same major title for 8 consecutive years

Roddick's 17 consecutive tiebreaks won

Roddick winning 37 consecutive service games in a lost slam final

Paolo Lorenzi's losing streak at Grand Slams

@Meles streak of wrong predictions

Guru's influence on modern elightenment

Djokovic's amount of amor y paz.

Zverev highest ranking without beating a top 50 player in Bo5.

Kyrgios' Pokémon badges collection

 

[mike danny]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

Nadal's triple la Decima

Nadal's longest single surface win streak (Clay courts - 81)

Nadal's 10 consecutive years of winning 1+ grand slam title (2005-2014)

Nadal's simultaneous holding of Olympic singles gold medal and Majors on clay, grass, and hard court

Nadal's Career Grand Slam + Olympic Singles Gold medal + Olympic Doubles Gold Medal

Nadal's highest overall clay court match win percentage - 91.75% (389-35)

Nadal as the only male player to win an Olympic gold medal in singles and an Olympic gold medal in doubles in two separate Olympics in Open Era

Nadal's winning of Rome Masters, Monte Carlo Masters and French Open for three consecutive years (2005-2007)

Nadal's winning of Monte Carlo and French Open for four consecutive years (2005-2008)

Nadal's 8 consecutive titles at any single tournament (Monte Carlo)

Nadal's 46 match win streak at any single tournament (Monte Carlo)

Nadal's 53 Clay court titles

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples

I'm impressed. You have done your homework on Nadal excellently. A+

 

[BeatlesFan]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

Nadal's triple la Decima

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

I disagree with most of these. Always bear in mind that when Borg won 5 straight Wimbledon's that almost everyone said, "this record will never be broken." When Pete retired with 14 slams he wrote in his book (and Annacone confirmed) that he was "confident" that record would never be broken. We know how that turned out and it was broken only 8 years after Pete retired.

Obviously some future player will win 6 AO's and 8 Wimbledon's. Someone will also eventually be #1 for years straight. I think the only two records which will be extremely difficult to break are la Decima and Fed winning 5+ slams at 3 different venues.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Federer's 237 consecutive weeks at no.1.

Federer's 5 consecutive titles at 2 different GS.

Federer's 8+ Wimb titles

Federer's 5+ titles at 3 different GS's.

Federer's 11 GS titles in 4 years

Nadal's 10+ RG titles

Nadal's triple la Decima

Nadal's longest single surface win streak (Clay courts - 81)

Nadal's 10 consecutive years of winning 1+ grand slam title (2005-2014)

Nadal's simultaneous holding of Olympic singles gold medal and Majors on clay, grass, and hard court

Nadal's Career Grand Slam + Olympic Singles Gold medal + Olympic Doubles Gold Medal

Nadal's highest overall clay court match win percentage - 91.75% (389-35)

Nadal as the only male player to win an Olympic gold medal in singles and an Olympic gold medal in doubles in two separate Olympics in Open Era

Nadal's winning of Rome Masters, Monte Carlo Masters and French Open for three consecutive years (2005-2007)

Nadal's winning of Monte Carlo and French Open for four consecutive years (2005-2008)

Nadal's 8 consecutive titles at any single tournament (Monte Carlo)

Nadal's 46 match win streak at any single tournament (Monte Carlo)

Nadal's 53 Clay court titles

Djokovic's 6+ AO titles

Djokovic's 3 AO-IW-Miami triples

A lot of those records are impressive, but many have been approached very closely. We are talking unbreakable here.

As follows:

Rafa's 10 years streak of winning majors is incredible, but Fed, Pete, and Borg have all had streaks of 8 and both Fed and Pete had stretches of 9 slam winning seasons across 10 years (in addition, both lost a major final in the 9th year, which is pretty close IMO). It's conceivable, if immensely difficult, that a GOAT-level player could equal Rafa's streak.


Rafa's 46 win streak at MC is again incredible, but somebody could conceivably approach or break this. Fed has streaks of 41 at both the USO and Wimbledon (unless he got walkovers in any, I can't recall).

Rafa's 53- and counting- clay titles will probably be never broken, but 2 guys- Muster and Vilas- have 40+ clay titles each. An old-style clay specialist vulturing a lot of 250s and 500s could approach this. But it's not very likely, i agree.

Nole's 6+ AO titles have already been equaled by Emerson pre-Open era, and Fed got 5 in the Open era. Again, impressive, but not out of reach.

Fed already has 2 AO-IW-Miami triples. Nole's 3 triples is very much within possibility for a truly great hardcourt player to equal.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Federer' 19+ major count

Fed's 302 weeks at No 1

Some people think Fed's 19 majors is under serious threat right now from Nadal. It's perfectly conceivable that some tennis phenom will appear eventually who will win slams at the age of 18 and continue winning them until he's 35. With that scenario, 25-30 slams is feasible. And someone will obviously be #1 for 300 weeks or more in the future.

Things in tennis change very quickly. When Mac and Lendl retired, they considered absolute ATG's of the sport. 15 years later, they've been totally surpassed by the likes of Fed, Rafa and Nole.

 

[mike danny]

I disagree with most of these. Always bear in mind that when Borg won 5 straight Wimbledon's that almost everyone said, "this record will never be broken." When Pete retired with 14 slams he wrote in his book (and Annacone confirmed) that he was "confident" that record would never be broken. We know how that turned out and it was broken only 8 years after Pete retired.

Obviously some future player will win 6 AO's and 8 Wimbledon's. Someone will also eventually be #1 for years straight. I think the only two records which will be extremely difficult to break are la Decima and Fed winning 5+ slams at 3 different venues.

First of all, Borg's record of 5 in a row still hasn't been broken. It has only been equalled.

Second of all, winning 5 in a row at 2 different GS's is something else entirely. Someone will have to do 6 in a row at 2 GS to beat this one.

 

[mike danny]

@King No1e, Fed "only" has 2 AO-IW-Miami triples, in 2006 and 2017.

 

[mike danny]

The thing that still hasn't been done is someone winning a slam 6 consecutive times. Fed was 1 match away twice from doing so: Wimb 2008 and USO 2009. Realisitcally is can be done since Fed has been close on 2 occassions, but it will be mighty difficult. Not even the clay GOAT Rafa Nadal could pull it off.

 

[mike danny]

@King No1e, Djokovic getting La Decima at the AO is highly unlikely. I can see him ending with 8, but not 10.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Someone will have to do 6 in a row at 2 GS to beat this one.

Or win 6 at one and 5 at the other.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

A lot of those records are impressive, but many have been approached very closely. We are talking unbreakable here.

As follows:

Rafa's 10 years streak of winning majors is incredible, but Fed, Pete, and Borg have all had streaks of 8 and both Fed and Pete had stretches of 9 slam winning seasons across 10 years (in addition, both lost a major final in the 9th year, which is pretty close IMO). It's conceivable, if immensely difficult, that a GOAT-level player could equal Rafa's streak.


Rafa's 46 win streak at MC is again incredible, but somebody could conceivably approach or break this. Fed has streaks of 41 at both the USO and Wimbledon (unless he got walkovers in any, I can't recall).

Rafa's 53- and counting- clay titles will probably be never broken, but 2 guys- Muster and Vilas- have 40+ clay titles each. An old-style clay specialist vulturing a lot of 250s and 500s could approach this. But it's not very likely, i agree.

Nole's 6+ AO titles have already been equaled by Emerson pre-Open era, and Fed got 5 in the Open era. Again, impressive, but not out of reach.

Fed already has 2 AO-IW-Miami triples. Nole's 3 triples is very much within possibility for a truly great hardcourt player to equal.

The 10 years straight is impressive, but 9 of those 10 years were done by winning RG. If a dominant hard court player comes by, it can be reached, because they will have two chances on their preferred surface.

One of the reasons why Federer did not get 10 straight years, is that he ran into an ATG on hard at the absolute peak of his powers in 2011, who beat him at both.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

The 10 years straight is impressive, but 9 of those 10 years were done by winning RG. If a dominant hard court player comes by, it can be reached, because they will have two chances on their preferred surface.

One of the reasons why Federer did not get 10 straight years, is that he ran into an ATG on hard at the absolute peak of his powers in 2011, who beat him at both.

Exactly. I don't feel this is an unreachable record, as remarkable as it is. Good point with hardcourt players getting 2 chances a year to maintain their streaks.

Not only did Fed run into a hardcourt ATG at his peak twice in 2011, he also ran into the clay GOAT at his peak in the RG final- after playing the best clay match of his life in the semis.

 

[mike danny]

Djokovic reaching 6 HC slam finals in a row? I believe that has to be a record. From AO 2011 until USO 2013.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Djokovic reaching 6 HC slam finals in a row? I believe that has to be a record. From AO 2011 until USO 2013.

Probably, but now we're really reaching as to what constitutes a 'record'.

 

[mike danny]

I used to admire Fed reaching 5+ finals at all 4 GS's. Now that record is perfectly reachable by Nole and Rafa.

Nole needs 1 more FO final and 1 more Wimb final.

Rafa needs 1 more AO final and 1 more USO final.

 

[mike danny]

Probably, but now we're really reaching as to what constitutes a 'record'.

We can make stuff up as we go along. After all, a record is a subjective matter. Spadea losing 21 or so straight matches constitutes a record, even if not in a positive light.

Fed winning 8 straight non-clay slams is also a record.

 

[Red Rick]

I would like to add

Murray 5 lost finals at the AO without ever winning it.

It hurts

 

[Deleted member 744633]

Don't forget Federer's impressive record against Nadal and Djokovic in Grand Slams. No other GOAT candidate is going to have a more impressive record against two all time greats.

Agreed 100%. A very poor record to have on a resume of a supposed GOAT. This is way worse than Djokovic dominating a weak era that the Federer fanboys claim.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

I used to admire Fed reaching 5+ finals at all 4 GS's. Now that record is perfectly reachable by Nole and Rafa.

Nole needs 1 more FO final and 1 more Wimb final.

Rafa needs 1 more AO final and 1 more USO final.

Reachable, but not as easy as it sounds. How long can Rafa remain competitive in a stronger field on HC?
And will Nole be good enough when he returns to make a slam final each at his least successful major (RG) and on his least favorite surface (grass)?

 

[mike danny]

Agreed 100%. A very poor record to have on a resume of a supposed GOAT. This is way worse than Djokovic dominating a weak era that the Federer fanboys claim.

Look up post #9.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Agreed 100%. A very poor record to have on a resume of a supposed GOAT. This is way worse than Djokovic dominating a weak era that the Federer fanboys claim.

No other GOAT candidate is required to pass the absurd test of dominating two other GOAT candidates who are over half a decade younger than him.

 

[mike danny]

Reachable, but not as easy as it sounds. How long can Rafa remain competitive in a stronger field on HC?
And will Nole be good enough when he returns to make a slam final each at his least successful major (RG) and on his least favorite surface (grass)?

In Djokovic's case it won't be easy, as performing great on clay will only get harder as he ages. He'll be 31 next year at RG.

At Wimb I think he will be susceptible to losing to more Querrey type players as he ages. He is not exactly a natural on the surface. And even in his prime/peak he had to survive a number of close calls.

 

[User123]

I disagree with most of these. Always bear in mind that when Borg won 5 straight Wimbledon's that almost everyone said, "this record will never be broken." When Pete retired with 14 slams he wrote in his book (and Annacone confirmed) that he was "confident" that record would never be broken. We know how that turned out and it was broken only 8 years after Pete retired.

Obviously some future player will win 6 AO's and 8 Wimbledon's. Someone will also eventually be #1 for years straight. I think the only two records which will be extremely difficult to break are la Decima and Fed winning 5+ slams at 3 different venues.

I really doubt there will be another player who will win 8 Wimbledon's. Grass will probably be the worst surface for most players from now on. The new generation will focus mostly on hardcourts or clay. The volley skills of the young players are pathetic. I can't imagine one of them winning 8 Wimbledon's.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

Grass will probably be the worst surface for most players from now on.

This is an excellent point. How long before the skills which allowed Fed or Pete-style Wimby dominance are rendered obsolete due to the relative absence of grass tournaments?

 

[Spider]

The 10 years slam winning streak is incredible, but has been approached fairly closely by Pete, Fed, and Borg.

Rafa's RG dominance will never be repeated in our lifetimes.

Fed's 237 consecutive weeks at #1 is probably safe for the foreseeable future as well- next best is Connors with 160, which is a good 33% lesser. It would take a GOAT player putting together an incredible few years in a row, winning 2 or 3 slams per season as a rule- like Fed's 2004-07- for this to be broken. Very unlikely.

The 10 year straight record looks extremely difficult for me. Almost impossible to repeat. The reason is longetivity and consistency.

Will be interesting to see.

 

[lud]

What about Djokovic comeback from -10 to winning h2h vs Nadal??

At one point it was 14-4 to Nadal, and now is 26-24 to Djokovic. This is record for sure.

 

[BlueClayGOAT]

What about Djokovic comeback from -10 to winning h2h vs Nadal??

At one point it was 14-4 to Nadal, and now is 26-24 to Djokovic. This is record for sure.

Again, really reaching for what constitutes a 'record'.
But this one might be a record in its own way.

 

[aman92]

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Eventually it will, but Nadal was imperious this year-not even dropping a set. Hard to see anybody stopping him there in the near future. He might have another 5-6 seasons left if he can stay reasonably fit.

Stop jinxing it ffs

 

[BeatlesFan]

@King No1e, Djokovic getting La Decima at the AO is highly unlikely. I can see him ending with 8, but not 10.

I can see him ending with 6. I don't think he's coming back remotely to his prior level. According to Agassi, he hasn't hit a ball for 2 months and still has significant elbow isssues, so 2018 AO is not even on the table. And by 2019 AO he'll be 32 years old with a grinding, tiring, brutal style.

 

[aman92]

Djokovic reaching 6 HC slam finals in a row? I believe that has to be a record. From AO 2011 until USO 2013.

It's actually 7 in a row...from USO 2010 to US Open 2013.

 

[Deleted member 744633]

Look up post #9.

Otha punde ... when some Federer fans were consistently belittling Djokovic (not you, as you are an awesome contributor) claiming it was weak era, I watched without saying anything (simply because the 2 main protagonists, namely tennisaddict and tennis_pro both made these claims in such amusing ways it was impossible to go after them ) so don't be surprised now when I play the H2H card to belittle Federer

 

[clayqueen]

A lot of those records are impressive, but many have been approached very closely. We are talking unbreakable here.

As follows:

Rafa's 10 years streak of winning majors is incredible, but Fed, Pete, and Borg have all had streaks of 8 and both Fed and Pete had stretches of 9 slam winning seasons across 10 years (in addition, both lost a major final in the 9th year, which is pretty close IMO). It's conceivable, if immensely difficult, that a GOAT-level player could equal Rafa's streak.


Rafa's 46 win streak at MC is again incredible, but somebody could conceivably approach or break this. Fed has streaks of 41 at both the USO and Wimbledon (unless he got walkovers in any, I can't recall).

Rafa's 53- and counting- clay titles will probably be never broken, but 2 guys- Muster and Vilas- have 40+ clay titles each. An old-style clay specialist vulturing a lot of 250s and 500s could approach this. But it's not very likely, i agree.

Nole's 6+ AO titles have already been equaled by Emerson pre-Open era, and Fed got 5 in the Open era. Again, impressive, but not out of reach.

Fed already has 2 AO-IW-Miami triples. Nole's 3 triples is very much within possibility for a truly great hardcourt player to equal.

There are not as many clay tournaments now as when Vilas was playing one after the other some of which the ATP had forgotten existed. I agree that what seems impossible now could be done in the future. The other thing we have to remember is that the scoring system might change making it easier to win matches.