Big 3 will be breaking records left and right in the next 3 to 5 years

itrium84

Hall of Fame
Time will tell the truth, folks. There is no need to get riled up over this stuff. If early to mid-30s doesn’t slow a person down, then Fed’s slam record will be broken by Nadal and Djoker, which will validate the HTH records and destroy the age excuse. This would solidly drop Fed into 3rd place. On the flip side, if Djoker and Nadal start falling off of a cliff and fall short of Fed’s record, then the age excuse will be very real.

Consider this:

To match Fed’s 17 slams through his age 35 season:
Nadal needs 0 slams in his next 3 years
Djoker needs 3 slams in his next 4 years

Since 2011, Djoker’s first full gluten-free year, Djoker has won at least 6 slams titles in any four year stretch. Djoker can suffer a big enough decline, that if he only wins 3 in the next 4 years, he would still be on pace with Fed.

To match Fed’s 20 slams through his age 37 season:
Nadal needs 3 slams in the next 5 years
Djoker needs 6 slams in the next 6 years

So really, Djoker will need to fall off of a cliff to not surpass Fed. Nadal will need to crash and burn not to surpass Fed.

Nadal and Djoker might end up proving me wrong. 2019 is going to be big. Let’s see what happens.

I personally crown Fed the best of the three because he has the most hardware. Anything other than the hardware is really worthless excuses. With that being said, I have said that age matters. If am right, then Djoker and Nadal will decline heavily enough not to catch Fed. If I am wrong, then they will both pass Fed.

So far, Nadal and Djoker appear to be proving me wrong. They keep collecting hardware. But these next few years are going to be huge. If they pass Fed, then I will man up and admit that I was wrong. That is fine. Djoker andNadal are legends. There is no shame in losing to those two.

Let’s have fun with this race. It is awesome! I love it. My car is ahead in the race. But I see two speed demons gaining on me and my check engine light just came on. I am nervous and excited at the same time.
This is absolutely best comment on goat theme I've ever read on this forum. I couldn't agree more. Gold standard to look up to. Literally, goat comment! :)

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Pheasant

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This is absolutely best comment on goat theme I've ever read on this forum. I couldn't agree more. Gold standard to look up to. Literally, goat comment! :)

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Thanks for the kind words. I try to call it as I see it without offending anyone.
 

Jonas78

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Federer's career had roughly 2 parts: 1) Withot Nadal, Djokovic and Murray (12 GS) and 2) With Nadal, Djokovic and Murray (8 GS). While Djokovic will never get rid of Nadal and Murray, chances are that he will get rid of Federer, which will make things easier. While Federer had it easy and then difficult, Djokovic had it difficult and he might have it slightly easier if Federer retires before he does.
I like discussing these things:). It's just funny when you get "no excuses!" when discussing the H2H, while excuses are allowed when discussing the slam count :rolleyes:.

I think 2009/2011/2012 are the toughest years, and the slam count is 4-3-3 those years, pretty even. Djokers 2011 was amazing.

Where people will never agree is If Feds level from 2011 is the same as from 2004. In other words, If you move Djoko/Nads 2011 to 2004, would Fed go (almost) slamless 2004-2007? My personal view is that they all would win less If their peaks coincided. But then Fed would have it easier in his thirties, and i think the slam count would end the same. The Djokodal club always consider Fed lucky not having peak Big4 around 2004-2007, well, maybe thats lucky for Djokodal too;)
 
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Plamen1234

Hall of Fame
Nuff said.

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Here is one graph that really matters unlike the one you posted

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Fed will make a record number of Olympic appearances with 5 if he plays in the 2020 Olympics.
 

RaulRamirez

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Sure not all records are equal.
Neither are all present on Ultimate Tennis Statistics, but many of them are present, and you can watch them there how they change if you like :)
Number of records holding is just a stat, probably meaningless...
 
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