Big3 H2H at every Slam/Big Tournament

[Lew II]

H2H for each Slam between Big3

DJOKOVIC
4 positive (AO vs both, WI vs both)
2 draws (RG vs Federer, UO vs Federer)
2 negative (RG/UO vs Nadal)

NADAL
4 positive (RG vs both, AO vs Federer, UO vs Djokovic)
1 draw (UO vs Federer)
3 negative (AO/WI vs Djokovic, WI vs Federer)

FEDERER
1 positive (WI vs Nadal)
3 draws (RG/UO vs Djokovic, UO vs Nadal)
4 negative (AO/WI vs Djokovic, AO/RG vs Nadal)

H2H for other Big Tournaments (Masters, YEC, Olympics)

DJOKOVIC
9 positive
7 draws
6 negative

NADAL
7 positive
7 draws
8 negative

FEDERER
6 positive
8 draws
8 negative

 

[Lew II]

Djokovic the most complete of Big3.

 

[Sport]

Djokovic the most complete of Big3.

No, he isn't.

Nadal is more complete in outdoor conditions than Djokovic. Nadal has the most titles in outdoor conditions in the history of the Open Era (82). Nadal also has his Slams more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal has won 2 Slams on each surface (hars, grass and clay), while Djokovic only has 1 Slam on clay. For Djokovic to be as good as Nadal in outdoor conditions he needs to win an extra RG and more outdoor titles.


Nadal is the most complete player in outdoor conditions in the history of the Open Era. Djokovic is only more complete than Nadal on indoor conditions. For Djokovic to be more complete overall than Nadal, he needs to be more complete BOTH on indoor and outdoor conditions, not only on indoor conditions.

 

[Lew II]

No, he isn't.

Upcoming explanation.

Explaination is Nadal leads h2h at slams "including 2-1 at UO" ?

I posted the h2h for each big tournament, "including 2-1 at UO".

 

[beard]

Djokovic the most complete of Big3.

Off course, we all know that, but someone admits, and someone don't...

 

[Lew II]

No, he isn't.

Nadal is more complete in outdoor conditions than Djokovic. Nadal has the most titles in outdoor conditions in the history of the Open Era (82). Nadal also has his Slams more evenly distributed by surface than Djokovic. Nadal has won 2 Slams on each surface (hars, grass and clay), while Djokovic only has 1 Slam on clay. For Djokovic to be as good as Nadal in outdoor conditions he needs to win an extra RG and more outdoor titles.


Nadal is the most complete player in outdoor conditions in the history of the Open Era. Djokovic is only more complete than Nadal on indoor conditions. For Djokovic to be more complete overall than Nadal, he needs to be more complete BOTH on indoor and outdoor conditions, not only on indoor conditions.

So Nadal with 1 indoor Big Title is more complete than Djokovic who has 10 indoor Big Titles?

Check this about title distribution:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/djokovics-amazing-title-distribution.640438/

 

[MichaelNadal]

So Nadal with 1 indoor Big Title is more complete than Djokovic who has 10 indoor Big Titles?

Check this about title distribution:

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/djokovics-amazing-title-distribution.640438/

Bro after losing YE#1 your boy is a distant third again. He was getting close, but sorry hit us up when he pulls to within a slam.

 

[Phoenix1983]

- Didn’t read OP
- Assumes it glorifies Novak Djokovic and demeans Federer
....
- Reads OP
- Is smug

 

[Antonio Puente]

Djokovic the most complete of Big3.

Damn shame he lost four slam finals to Stan and Murray.

 

[RS]

Bro after losing YE#1 your boy is a distant third again. He was getting close, but sorry hit us up when he pulls to within a slam.

Yeah. If Djokovic gets to 18 slams with his resume at least he might be better than Nadal IMO. 3 slams difference currently is quite a gap IMO.

 

[Lew II]

Damn shame he lost four slam finals to Stan and Murray.

Djokovic has a better score than Nadal in Slam finals against Murray and Wawrinka:

Djokovic 5-4
Nadal 1-1

And by the way Federer and Nadal didn't play Murray and Wawrinka in Slam finals enough times to make a comparison.

Djokovic 9 finals
Federer 3
Nadal 2

 

[Towny]

Why are we using H2H to determine 'completeness'? Nadal is 3-1 against Federer at the AO but would anyone argue that makes him better than Federer there?

 

[Lew II]

Why are we using H2H to determine 'completeness'? Nadal is 3-1 against Federer at the AO but would anyone argue that makes him better than Federer there?

H2H alone don't determine greatness but they contribute.

 

[ForumMember]

Djokovic the most complete of Big3.

This is redundant to post this by now. This is given for any of your stats post.