Can Djokovic beat the odds once more?

weakera

Talk Tennis Guru
It's disinformation. Nadal wasn't injured in 2021 French Open, at least not in the first 3 sets. To suggest that this was the main cause of Nadal's defeat is ridiculous.

“I watched most of the matches from Australia at home in Stockholm. The best news for Nadal is that he has regained his mobility from before. When I watched him last year at Roland Garros, he didn’t move like that and that could be one of the reasons why he lost to Djokovic. What I don’t know is whether he was injured. I saw the real Rafa in Australia,” Borg said.
 

junior74

Talk Tennis Guru
Funny that one of the posters best known around here for claiming he is a great tennis analyst, someone who regularly claims his eye test and tennis knowledge allow him to accurately compare levels and predict outcomes, posted in that W thread predicting Fed would win in 4 sets. Several posts exposing why that was the case.

Almost like no one here has a clue!

Like I said, hope :)

I know I am not a great tennis analyst.
 
You yourself unknowningly confirmed that you know Nadal was badly injured in 2021 RG. It would have been a far more relevant example but instead you used Wimbledon 2015.

Ouch.
It is true that Nadal wasn’t physically in as good condition compared to 2020 or previous years.

I admit to beat Nadal at RG you need a bit of luck to beat him and Novak took advantage of it.
 
Agreed, Novak took the opportunities he received in 2015/2021 and he deserves credit for that.
Thanks man. Good post. I’m man enough to admit when Nadal is at his best at french open or close to it then nobody beats him.

Djokovic and Fed have tried but he’s to good. However, if he’s a bit off physically, game wise or whatever then Djokovic has been the best player to capitalise on them opportunities.

Nadal has done that himself at the other slams. They are both incredible competitors.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Dezinformation. Nadal wasn't injured in 2021 French Open, at least not in the first 3 sets.

Nadal was injured from 2-2 in the fourth set, but at that point he was already a beaten man. The rest is propaganda as usual. First three sets he was fully fit, running around like a jackrabbit. His tennis started to struggle because the conditions were getting cooler and the ball was bouncing less and less above Djokovic's shoulders and more into Novak's strike zone. No injured player can play a third set that lasted one hour forty minutes against one of the most elite tennis players on the planet while carrying an injury on a surface like clay where movement is absolutely critical. Damage control was in full effect ever since.
 

paolo2143

Professional
Thanks man. Good post. I’m man enough to admit when Nadal is at his best at french open or close to it then nobody beats him.

Djokovic and Fed have tried but he’s to good. However, if he’s a bit off physically, game wise or whatever then Djokovic has been the best player to capitalise on them opportunities.

Nadal has done that himself at the other slams. They are both incredible competitors.
Novak beat him fair and square in 2021 despite what some Rafa fans would have you believe.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
The first set tells me all i need to know


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T007

Hall of Fame
Insurmountable odds at his peak facing up against an over the hill Federer lacking his signature FH who hadn’t won a slam for 3 years… inspirational.
A 34 year old Fed facing prime peak 28 year old Djoker in his career best season is against the odd.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
He's +170 against Alcaraz, and was +400 when he won it last time. DUH of course he can and he will. So I would strongly suggest making lots of money while he does it.
The little pup will tear the old wolf to pieces.
:cool:
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Difference between Djokovic and Nadal on clay. Nadal is hulk. If something is in his strike zone he could hit winner even if fully injured.

Djokovic doesn't have power like Nadal. Djokovic must be physically fit to win on clay. But in AO without moving much he could outmuscle others.
 

DSH

Talk Tennis Guru
It's disinformation. Nadal wasn't injured in 2021 French Open, at least not in the first 3 sets. To suggest that this was the main cause of Nadal's defeat is ridiculous.
Nadal played a RG 2021 at a low level (under his high standards) and the main proof was his match in the semifinals where he did not perform as expected, in addition to the fact that the conditions favored the game of your idol.
:notworthy:
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Nadal played a RG 2021 at a low level (under his high standards) and the main proof was his match in the semifinals where he did not perform as expected, in addition to the fact that the conditions favored the game of your idol.
:notworthy:
Where is he your idol. Why not our idol. Djokovic is legend.
 

kayapit

Semi-Pro
Take solace in knowing Djokovic isn't winning the title. Alcaraz dynasty is about to begin.
I would not be shocked to see Sasha beat Carlos in the final, should Novak go down. Not saying Carlos isn't the better player (vs Zed), but Raz is not unbeatable, it would be an amazing turn on last year's devastating FO end for Zverev, and crazier things have happened.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
I would not be shocked to see Sasha beat Carlos in the finals, should Novak go down. Not saying Carlos isn't the better player (vs Zed), but Raz is not unbeatable, it would be an amazing turn on last year's devastating FO end for Zverev, and crazier things have happened.
Whatever Raz does now won't change the fact he lost a set already. Rafa won 4 RG without dropping a set. Raz won't win 4 I guarantee. Rafa is Rafa and no one is better on clay. Just my input.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
I would not be shocked to see Sasha beat Carlos in the final, should Novak go down. Not saying Carlos isn't the better player (vs Zed), but Raz is not unbeatable, it would be an amazing turn on last year's devastating FO end for Zverev, and crazier things have happened.

It's going to be an interesting weekend.
 

Lozo1016

Hall of Fame
This is actually the first time since the 2011 AO SF vs. Federer that Novak is the betting underdog in a slam match against someone other than Nadal.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Aren't you a fan of Swiatek though, who a lot think is one of the most bland dominant women champs in recent memory? Lol. You know what they say. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

Not even close to a rabid fan of Iga. I like her but I also like Andreescu, Fernandez, Rybakina. And I’d never lord her victories over anyone.

I’m just trying to see what others see in Novak. I assume there is something beyond the monotonous consistency but maybe that’s it.
 
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