Centre Court scheduling?

[Laurie]

How does the scheduling work? I have been hearing for the last few days that every top player should play at least one match on Court No 1. However, unless I am mistaken, Roger Federer and Andy Murray have played all of their matches on centre court so far, also Serena Williams? Now, if none of these players get allocated to Court 1 for their quarterfinal match, they will play seven matches on Centre Court or until they are knocked out, whatever comes first. If they have played on Court 1, happy to be corrected.

Who makes the decisions here? Djokovic who is a two time defending champion was allocated a dangerous player on Court 1, just like last year against Kevin Anderson, they knew the weather forecast. Djokovic has won four slams in a row, Richard Krajicek on the BBC was the only pundit who continually questioned the decision making process, the other commentators would not say a word about it or engage him in that conversation. Krajicek is Dutch and Dutchmen are happy to speak their mind regardless of who they might upset.

See tomorrow's schedule here:

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule15.html

 

[tennisaddict]

I just read that the decisions are purely based on what the tournament considers as 'marquee matches'.

Nothing to do with men, women, top seed, etc

 

[WarriorRafa]

I think Fed got the Centre Court matches because he played Brits in R2 as well as R3. Atleast one of those matches would have been on Court 1 had the opponents not been Willis or Evans.

 

[Laurie]

I just read that the decisions are purely based on what the tournament considers as 'marquee matches'.

Nothing to do with men, women, top seed, etc

Thanks for this. Hmm, are you saying that Fed vs two British players ranked in the nether regions is more marquee than Djokovic v Sam Querrey?

Federer will play Steve (who?) Johnson tomorrow on Centre Court. Gasquet is playing Tsonga on Court 1. Cilic is playing Nishikori on Court 2.

Who are making the decisions?

 

[clayqueen]

Not only do very low ranking British players get to play on CC, the TV coverage is almost confined to matches involving British players no matter who they are playing. If you want to watch other players you have to do it online or on the interactive red button. Even though I'm British, I find this very annoying and it's been going on for years since the days of Henman and Rusedski.

Many interesting players are never seen unless they make it to the latter stages. I only saw a bit of Theim and didn't see anything of Coric. I just caught the Delpo/Stan match by mistake.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Not only do very low ranking British players get to play on CC, the TV coverage is almost confined to matches involving British players no matter who they are playing. If you want to watch other players you have to do it online or on the interactive red button. Even though I'm British, I find this very annoying and it's been going on for years since the days of Henman and Rusedski.

Many interesting players are never seen unless they make it to the latter stages. I only saw a bit of Theim and didn't see anything of Coric. I just caught the Delpo/Stan match by mistake.

Have you attended any of the press conferences this year?

 

[clayqueen]

Have you attended any of the press conferences this year?

No. I'm not going to Wimbledon this year. I'm not a journalist, but I got a media pass for Abu Dhabi for a couple of years through a forum I belong to because they needed someone who would be there to send some eye witness accounts and pictures.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

No. I'm not going to Wimbledon this year. I'm not a journalist, but I got a media pass for Abu Dhabi for a couple of years through a forum I belong to because they needed someone who would be there to send some eye witness accounts and pictures.

Oh, OK.

 

[MasturB]

Thanks for this. Hmm, are you saying that Fed vs two British players ranked in the nether regions is more marquee than Djokovic v Sam Querrey?

Federer will play Steve (who?) Johnson tomorrow on Centre Court. Gasquet is playing Tsonga on Court 1. Cilic is playing Nishikori on Court 2.

Who are making the decisions?

Not Gasquet or Tsonga or Cilic or Nishikori are 7 time champions. Nor have either of them been runner up the last two years.

Plus it's easier to schedule Fed on center because you know the match will be finished very quickly.

 

[Arya Stark]

Thanks for this. Hmm, are you saying that Fed vs two British players ranked in the nether regions is more marquee than Djokovic v Sam Querrey?

Federer will play Steve (who?) Johnson tomorrow on Centre Court. Gasquet is playing Tsonga on Court 1. Cilic is playing Nishikori on Court 2.

Who are making the decisions?

Like someone else said above, they decide based on 'marquee' matches.
People in Britain (Wimbledon) want to see Murray and Federer. Federer always has the stadium packed. Yes, the man is THAT popular. Deal with it.

(On top of the fact he was playing British players.)

 

[mandy01]

Federer played two Brits in a row. NO WAY he gets scheduled outside CC. Other than that, Fed's played on Court 1 every year.

 

[mandy01]

Not Gasquet or Tsonga or Cilic or Nishikori are 7 time champions. Nor have either of them been runner up the last two years.

Plus it's easier to schedule Fed on center because you know the match will be finished very quickly.

Roger will continue with Centre only because Djokovic is out of the draw now and they need a big name on Centre. In 2013, Roger played a match on Court 1 despite being the defending champion. People need to stop crying. Last year, Djokovic did not play a single match on Court 1 while Federer did. Murray of course, did not play on Court 1. And i think one of these years, Fed played two matches on Court 1.

 

[Laurie]

Like someone else said above, they decide based on 'marquee' matches.
People in Britain (Wimbledon) want to see Murray and Federer. Federer always has the stadium packed. Yes, the man is THAT popular. Deal with it.

(On top of the fact he was playing British players.)

Well we don't know that as your theory hasn't been tested. Having been going to Wimbledon since the mid 1990s, Wimbledon fans pack every court on the grounds regardless of who is playing, always been the case.

Just would like to point out for clarification. Marquee matches? Or marquee names? Federer vs Who? four times in a row is clearly not a marquee match.

We need clarification.

 

[Tennisanity]

Thanks for this. Hmm, are you saying that Fed vs two British players ranked in the nether regions is more marquee than Djokovic v Sam Querrey?

Federer will play Steve (who?) Johnson tomorrow on Centre Court. Gasquet is playing Tsonga on Court 1. Cilic is playing Nishikori on Court 2.

Who are making the decisions?

Of course. Who knew Querrey was actually going to beat Djoko? It was most likely going to be a boring 3-setter. The tournament is in England so of course the people want to see their own vs. the Wimbledon GOAT over Djoko vs. Querrey.

 

[uliks]

Well we don't know that as your theory hasn't been tested. Having been going to Wimbledon since the mid 1990s, Wimbledon fans pack every court on the grounds regardless of who is playing, always been the case.

Just would like to point out for clarification. Marquee matches? Or marquee names? Federer vs Who? four times in a row is clearly not a marquee match.

We need clarification.

They wanted Djokovic out and they got that. Mission accomplished.

 

[Tennisanity]

Roger will continue with Centre only because Djokovic is out of the draw now and they need a big name on Centre. In 2013, Roger played a match on Court 1 despite being the defending champion. People need to stop crying. Last year, Djokovic did not play a single match on Court 1 while Federer did. Murray of course, did not play on Court 1. And i think one of these years, Fed played two matches on Court 1.

Really? According to OP he did against Anderson last year

 

[mandy01]

Really? According to OP he did against Anderson last year

I highly doubt that. His draw didn't have any other big name.

 

[Mainad]

I have to concede that there is an obvious bias towards Murray, Federer and Serena. They have played all their matches on Centre Court so far while the number #1 male player has had to put up with rain delays on Court 1!

Like Laurie and Krajicek, I would like to know how these decisions are made and justified.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

I highly doubt that. His draw didn't have any other big name.

Djokovic played Anderson on court one last year.

 

[Laurie]

Really? According to OP he did against Anderson last year

That's correct, last year Djokovic won the match against Kevin Anderson on Court 1, coming back from two sets down to win in five. If I am not mistaken, that was over two days as well, but for bad light not rain, but will have to double check.

 

[Laurie]

Do we know if Murray is scheduled for Centre Court again tomorrow? I think he should have played at least 1 of his matches on Court 1!

Here's tomorrow's schedule http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule15.html

 

[Tennisanity]

That's correct, last year Djokovic won the match against Kevin Anderson on Court 1, coming back from two sets to win in five. If I am not mistaken, that was over two days as well, but for bad light not rain, but will have to double check.

Yes I think you are correct. But it is pretty clear Djokovic will never be the same marquee as Federer. Just a fact.

 

[mandy01]

edit: Hmm no. It was on Court 1. In any case, mountain out of a molehill. Had Fed played Dolgo he'd have been on Court 1.

 

[Tennisanity]

It seems they started the match on Centre Court but finished it due to bad lighting on Court 1 the next day.

No, it started and finished on Court 1.

 

[Laurie]

Yes I think you are correct. But it is pretty clear Djokovic will never be the same marquee as Federer. Just a fact.

Yes, but never be a fact in who's opinion? The tournament referee and committee? Djokovic is (was) two time defending champion.

 

[mandy01]

No, it started and finished on Court 1.

Yeah I edited my post. But how does it matter? Even Fed played on Court 1 last year. It's only this year he hasn't been on it.

 

[Tennisanity]

Yes, but never be a fact in who's opinion? The tournament referee and committee? Djokovic is (was) two time defending champion.

Attendance numbers? Interest in a tourney drops dramatically when Fed is out. If Fed and Djoko are on opposite sides of the draw no one talks about Djoko's half (relatively speaking).

 

[mandy01]

Yes, but never be a fact in who's opinion? The tournament referee and committee? Djokovic is (was) two time defending champion.

What is so offensive about playing on Court 1?

 

[Tennisanity]

Yeah I edited my post. But how does it matter? Even Fed played on Court 1 last year. It's only this year he hasn't been on it.

It doesn't matter really, but Djoko definitely hinted in his presser that he might have won had it been played on centre court. I think he specifically said he's much more familiar with Centre court since he plays 90% of his matches there.

 

[Sartorius]

Fed gotta play on Court 18 to get 18th.

 

[mandy01]

Attendance numbers? Interest in a tourney drops dramatically when Fed is out. If Fed and Djoko are on opposite sides of the draw no one talks about Djoko's half (relatively speaking).

No man. Fed's played on Court 1 so many times. It's not like the guy never went through rain delays and stuff. Too much is being made out of this.

 

[Laurie]

Attendance numbers? Interest in a tourney drops dramatically when Fed is out. If Fed and Djoko are on opposite sides of the draw no one talks about Djoko's half (relatively speaking).

Hmm, did the French Open lose half of its spectators last month because Federer didn't turn up?

Are you making things up here as you go along?

 

[Mainad]

Here's tomorrow's schedule http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule15.html

Thanks. I realised that I had not read your link and I amended my post accordingly.

 

[eagletennis]

Why is this important all of the sudden

 

[Tennisanity]

Hmm, did the French Open lose half of its spectators last month because Federer didn't turn up?

Are you making things up here as you go along?

Not sure how much it lost, but I bet it had a lot less interest than when Fed and Nadal were going at it.

 

[mandy01]

It doesn't matter really, but Djoko definitely hinted in his presser that he might have won had it been played on centre court. I think he specifically said he's much more familiar with Centre court since he plays 90% of his matches there.

I think Djoko-Querry was shifted to Court 1 only because a British player came through to play Federer. Had it been Dolgo, Fed would've been the one out.

 

[underground]

It's a common theme with British players against a top seed being put on CC. In past years, they've done it with unseeded players purely because one of them was British. This is more to do with the draw and the British players, rather than Fed or Murray's fault, if Kei or Novak had the British players they would have been on CC instead.

Heck Nadal often gets put onto SL court for the French Open and I don't see people whining,

I'm fairly sure the line of logic from the organizers was that they'll put Fed on Court 1 for his R4 or QF match (much like his R4 match against Robredo in 2014 and QF against Simon in 2015) because you would expect Djokovic to come through Querrey relatively easy.

Murray was always going to be on CC, especially since Stan is gone there is no other big name to go onto CC.

Roger will continue with Centre only because Djokovic is out of the draw now and they need a big name on Centre. In 2013, Roger played a match on Court 1 despite being the defending champion. People need to stop crying. Last year, Djokovic did not play a single match on Court 1 while Federer did. Murray of course, did not play on Court 1. And i think one of these years, Fed played two matches on Court 1.

Fed played both his matches in 2013 on CC. As you said he was defending champion so he was first match on Monday on CC against Hanescu. Later on the day Murray played his opener on CC, whilst at the same time Nadal crashed out against Darcis on Court 1. Fed's 2nd round loss to Stakhovsky was also on CC.

You might have mixed it up with his 2012 1st round match against Ramos, which was indeed on Court 1.

 

[Laurie]

What is so offensive about playing on Court 1?

Of course there is nothing offensive, its a great court. The question should be posed to the Tournament referee and the Committee as to their decision making in this Wimbledon.

 

[AceSalvo]

What is so offensive about playing on Court 1?

Fed was moved to Luois Armstrong court to play Robredo even though he has the most US Open titles along with Pete. So not sure about all the crying here.

Funny that Fed lost there too. I do think this kind of move does get into their head/ego.

 

[mandy01]

Of course there is nothing offensive, its a great court. The question should be posed to the Tournament referee and the Committee as to their decision making in this Wimbledon.

I think the match should've been finished on CC. That was a bad call imo. But if a Brit is playing it's tough to see them not give a preference to him.

 

[Steve0904]

Why is this important all of the sudden

Because Novak is out. Now it's a conspiracy.

 

[mandy01]

Fed was moved to Luois Armstrong court to play Robredo even though he has the most US Open titles along with Pete. So not sure about all the crying here.

Funny that Fed lost there too. I do think this kind of move does get into their head/ego.

Fed was playing like crap in 2013. He was going to lose anyway.

 

[Laurie]

It's a common theme with British players against a top seed being put on CC. In past years, they've done it with unseeded players purely because one of them was British. This is more to do with the draw and the British players, rather than Fed or Murray's fault, if Kei or Novak had the British players they would have been on CC instead.

Heck Nadal often gets put onto SL court for the French Open and I don't see people whining,

I'm fairly sure the line of logic from the organizers was that they'll put Fed on Court 1 for his R4 or QF match (much like his R4 match against Robredo in 2014 and QF against Simon in 2015) because you would expect Djokovic to come through Querrey relatively easy.

Murray was always going to be on CC, especially since Stan is gone there is no other big name to go onto CC.



Fed played both his matches in 2013 on CC. As you said he was defending champion so he was first match on Monday on CC against Hanescu. Later on the day Murray played his opener on CC, whilst at the same time Nadal crashed out against Darcis on Court 1. Fed's 2nd round loss to Stakhovsky was also on CC.

You might have mixed it up with his 2012 1st round match against Ramos, which was indeed on Court 1.

I posted tomorrow's schedule twice so far in this thread. Federer plays Steve Johnson tomorrow on Centre Court. So if he is not put on Court 1 for his quarterfinal match, every match will be on Centre Court.

I think Richard Krajicek was right to question this. Again, Krajicek is a man to speak his mind but there are a lot of pundits there taking an easy ride and easy pay day.

 

[AceSalvo]

Fed was playing like crap in 2013. He was going to lose anyway.

ah, forgot it was 2013.

 

[eagletennis]

Because Novak is out. Now it's a conspiracy.

No, its conspiracy cause people forget that any professional sport including tennis is business.People gotta stop believing in purity of any sport.Fed was on CC cause he brings more eye balls-money.Thats it

 

[Steve0904]

No, its conspiracy cause people forget that any professional sport including tennis is business.People gotta stop believing in purity of any sport.Fed was on CC cause he brings more eye balls-money.Thats it

I agree. I was just trying to lighten the mood. Not being serious.

 

[Laurie]

I think the match should've been finished on CC. That was a bad call imo. But if a Brit is playing it's tough to see them not give a preference to him.

I wish I could agree with you but I have seen so many damned Brits given wild cards over the decades and not win a single match, go back to the Challenger circuit and do even worse. The 2nd round match was a great story but not sure Dan Evans should have been Centre Court. Of course I understand you are trying to put yourself into the Committee's shoes, not what you might think about it.

 

[70sHollywood]

In his latest BBC column Murray says he usually plays on C1 once each year, and this year he asked if he could play there in R2 (he says you can make scheduling requests but it is ultimately decided by the organisers). I don't get why both Federer and Murray are on CC on Monday. One of them should be on C1 and then the other should be on there on Wednesday, if they both get through.

I think the powers that be are having a poor Wimbledon, both in terms of the scheduling and officiating.

 

[underground]

I posted tomorrow's schedule twice so far in this thread. Federer plays Steve Johnson tomorrow on Centre Court. So if he is not put on Court 1 for his quarterfinal match, every match will be on Centre Court.

I think Richard Krajicek was right to question this. Again, Krajicek is a man to speak his mind but there are a lot of pundits there taking an easy ride and easy pay day.

Given the players left behind in the draw, Fed and Murray will have to play on CC if they both advance to the QF, they're not going to put Raonic v Querrey or Berdych v Tomic on CC (I would be surprised if they do). So both guys will have had all their matches on CC

Look, as far is it goes, putting Djokovic on Court 1 makes complete logical sense, on paper for Day 5, you had:

- Wawrinka V Del Potro
- Federer v Evans
- Djokovic v Querrey

Evans had to be on CC, putting local players on the main court in slams is not uncommon (look at the French Open with their home players) and I think it's a no-brainer to put Stan v Delpo on CC.

If your complaint was that Djokovic had unfair treatment, I'd say it was a series of unfortunate circumstances that were not targeting him specifically.

Now the decision for the schedule tomorrow is a different matter, I for one expected Federer to be put on Court 1 with Cilic v Nishikori on CC. But my guess is that since this is the 2nd week Monday, which features the entire draw of both the men's and women's singles in action. Naturally people come into the day with high expectations hoping to get their ticket's worth, and given that Fed and Murray are their only remaining stars it's hard to schedule them onto Court 1. Now had Djokovic came through his 3rd round match, I'm sure Fed would have been bumped to Court 1 tomorrow.

 

[Laurie]

I read yesterday venus Williams has also been unhappy about scheduling http://sport.bt.com/more-sport-hub/...plaints-over-court-scheduling-S11364070935587

From the article, Tim Henman is on the committee which makes the decisions. In the article you will see a typical Tim Henman comment, not the most analytical mind to ever grace this planet.