Discussion in 'College Tennis Talk' started by Clemson_tennis, Jan 31, 2012.
Well at least clemson won a line against FSU. And Favrot took a set from Dougaz.
Is this the worst Clemson team ever?
In the coversation. The 2008 and 2002 teams were pretty bad also.
It'll depend how they do against NC State, VT, Louisville etc. If Clemson loses out (except for BC), then this year it will probably go down as the worst clemson team ever.
Pretty decent showing vs Wake yesterday. Anon/Edwards upset the #1 doubles team in America at 1 doubles. We had 4 match points on court 3 to take the doubles point. Pretty brutal to lose 6 straight points from 6-2 to lose the doubles point.
Good win for Christian Harris at 6 over Gadjiev. He should be #6 for the rest of the year. He has shown way more fight in his career than Pinazo ever has at Clemson. Kalends led the 1st set over Seraphim 5-2 before giving away the set and match. Sanon took Gojo to a 3rd set breaker after pulling out the 2nd set tiebreaker. Would have been great if he had pulled out the win, that would have capped an amazing day for him in doubles and singles combined.
Overall this was the 1st real positive performance of the year considering it was against one of the national title contenders, who played their full lineup.
Must follow this up with a win over NC State on Sunday
Tigers simply can't compete with that coaching staff. The rest of the ACC recruits at a different level.
Recruiting really is where it's lacking. No consistent pipeline base for international talent and can't lock down elite Americans either.
Sounds like recruiting to me. If you don't have a consistent strong recruiting pipeline, then you will be a bottom feeder.
South Carolina has some blue chip seniors who have played either singles or dubs at junior Grand Slams but they both are going out of state-one to Florida and one to Duke. Even two of the top three 11th graders from SC have already committed out of state-a blue chip to Wisconsin and a 5 star to Vanderbilt (dad was top 10 ATP player). The other 5 star is leaning toward Ivy, southern private school, or Big 10. If a player were to commit in state, he would probably choose USC over Clemson now anyway. Clemson did get two 5 stars who will be freshmen next year, one is a good player-almost a blue chip, the other was ranked a lot higher when he committed a year ago, but is playing better this spring. There are also some talented internationals training at those Hilton Head academies and playing junior ITFs but they also are not choosing to play in the Palmetto State. Goffi at least was at the Atlanta ITF and SC ITFs-didnt hear if Clemson coach was at either. At least one of the Big 10 coaches was at Atlanta ITF.
With the way things are at Clemson now, you dont hear blue chip and 5 star southern players talking about that school. Most of the guys have played tournaments in Clemson, and it is such a small town. I think a lot of southern players would choose Furman over Clemson TBH. Clemson should go after the Florida guys-there are so many of them; U of F gets the blue chips, UCF will get an elite mix, FL St gets internationals, and there are high 5 stars, almost blue chips from FL going to schools like Florida Atlantic. Most of the top 100 Florida juniors for the senior and junior class have played and won at least a qualifying match in a Future. The Tigers need to go looking in the Sunshine State...
Maybe the Florida and southern guys want more of a change in seasons; the first choice of a lot of those elite players are Ivy League and Big 10.
Thank you for that insight. I shared that with a few Clemson people I know who have some concern for the tennis program. (it's not many)
You're right that there should be some kind if recruiting strategy. Clemson got fortunate with the Maden brothers from Germany. Why not turn that into a profitable pipeline? Germany produces many good college players on the men's side. Perhaps the 2nd most after the USA. For Clemson things just seem to be get whoever they can, which recently has been mediocre transfers from other schools.
I think Ryan Young is a good coach but my one worry with him being hired as an assistant is that he has the same recruiting ties that Boetsch does. He doesn't seem to add anything new to the recruiting efforts. An assistant with good international ties somewhere with a track record of pulling talent from certain areas would have been a better choice. I know coaches Boetsch and Young are super passionate about Clemson and they work very hard on the practice courts. Good tactical coaches and motivators. The issue is recruiting, which happens to be the most vital part of building a program in tennis.
Alex Favrot just lost to Ronnie Schneider in 41 minutes.
Ronnie is one of my all time fav student-athletes, class all the way. But he is not a fast player, total grinder. 41 minutes? Wow. Interesting set on 1 doubles though.
Yeah #1 doubles for Clemson is the only line playing well recently.
Looks like we are mixing up the lineup a bit today. Flipped 1/2, 3/4 and 5/6.
I wonder if Duke challenged Sanon at 1 and Favrot at 2. Because on the surface it doesn't seem like that would pass a challenge since Sanon has been nearly winless at #2 and Favrot has had at least had a couple wins at #1 including a couple over ranked players (Kozakov, Corbett)
Thought players could flip one line. Are these type of minor lineup change appeals ever rule against the team making the 1 line change swap?
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Yannick Maden won a future in Italy. He is close to cracking the ATP top 250.
He has done better than I expected in the pros. Always a very smart player who could open up the court with some killer angels, especially from the backhand side. Not a very powerful player, not a big server and would occasionally tighten up in big moments. I would love to see him keep winning and maybe get into a grand slam or ATP draw one day.
Clemson board of trustees approved plans for an $8 million new tennis facility. Good to see the administration putting in the effort.
this is really cool that u r doing this, ive been a huge clemson fan for my whole life but never got into much other than football and bball because of the lack of media coverage. your thread has got me super into their program due to their extensive coverage. Hey maybe ill play for them one day who knows
I see another transfer is coming in for Clemson: Chaudry of Mississippi State.
Yay I guess. Seems like yet another bottom of the lineup transfer. Not sure why that is now the primary way of getting players to Clemson.
Yannick maden won his first ATP main draw match in Metz. He has Denis Istomin next.
It's great to see Yannick far surpassing guys that bested him in college. Guys like Nathan Pasha, Henrique Cunha, Jose Hernandez, Jaime Pulgar, Mikelis Libietis. And he now has a better career high ranking than what Jarmere Jenkins ever achieved, a guy he went 0-4 vs in college.
Will you be at the All American in Tulsa?
No, way too far from me and it looks like the team is barely going to Tulsa. Only Favrot is on the entry list.
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