Just so we are clear, I wouldn't dare guess how far NTRPolice can go. 4.0? 4.5? It all depends on whether he can get quality instruction, can work on fitness, can get lots of match play. That takes time, money and dedication (plus luck to stay healthy). My point in mentioning our former TT poster's 4.0 wake-up call is that the leap between levels is huge, and the higher you get the harder it is to improve. Perhaps TT looks good on camera and has pretty strokes, but we all know how difficult it can be to translate that to match play. I hope he achieves his goals, whatever those might be. In the meantime, he should perhaps defer to people who play types of tennis he has never once played (ladies 7.5 combo, as in this thread) and those who actually have scaled the men's 4.5 mountain. If he's serious, however, I do have words of advice based on what I have seen at TT: If you want to move up, don't get married and don't have kids.