Daniil Medvedev hasn’t made it out of the first week of a Grand Slam in 500 days

[NeutralFan]

That's really sad. Djokovic is even more of a lock for the title now. Med is one of the few players who can challenge him.

Lol as if Med was ever going to beat him at RG

 

[ghostofMecir]

Best player born in the 90's, ladies and gentlemen.

7 to 10 slams in any other era. Best modern strokes of all time.

 

[NoleFam]

Well technically, the 4th round is considered the 2nd week...barely.

 

[Kralingen]

Conditions in paris were not going to let medvedev go far. from the first point, it didnt look like his ball was going anywhere. it was just sitting there all match. in rome, it was staying lower and the footing was chunkier so he could move better. Seyboth had all day to line everything up and looked completely comfortable all match long.

I agree, Thiago played great, his FH was clicking in a way that I've only seen about 5% of the Tour do consistently, and his mental strength to continue attacking was brilliant. Plus, the balls were especially dead here which gave an advantage to the player able to generate his own pace.

Now let's talk about the rest. How about the conditions in Australia 2023, Flushing 2022, and RG 2022 last year?

Pray tell, which conditions do suit our picky little world #2? Our poor embattled 27-year-old prince can only play in very specific set of conditions at the Slams?

Since AO 22 he hasn't met a Top 10 player. He's lost to the world #20, #23, #29, and now of course the world #197. Sure, they all played above their ranking. Sure, some of the draws were unlucky. But 4 times consecutively?

 

[Clay lover]

He's bordering on a counterpuncher and counterpunchers kinda need to rely on more aggressive players not being in good form to advance far. Even yesterday Seyboth-Wild just kinda outhit him

 

[Kralingen]

A charitable reading would be that Medvedev is a dominant player in Bo3 and has the best Slam success of his generation, wiping CYGSovic in straight sets at USO 21 and being just points away from doing the same to Rafael Nadal at the AO.

And that he has just gotten unlucky with some of the draws and was struggling with injury and mental demons in 2022. Indeed, I fully expect him to shut me up and do well at the next 3 Slams, perhaps even winning the USO or AO given his awesome spring HC form.

But how about an uncharitable reading? You know, the kind that is given to the likes of Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Ljubicic, Davydenko, Gravinboginagis, etc. Hell, the kind that is given to Zverev or Tsitsipas. The kind that deals in a more caustic, pessimistic view of the situation?

Well, his seasons going back to 2019 follow a common theme. He hums along in Bo3, plays really well on quicker surfaces where generating pace isn't an issue, takes advantage of tired legs and stays right on top of players with his serve. I think the back-to-back days really benefits his style, he rushes you on serve and pushes you to death on return, and does an excellent job with scoreboard pressure and counterpunching to break your rhythm. This is really impressive stuff.

In Slams though, in Bo5, all of his losses also follow a pretty common theme.

It seems like, to me -- he has basically lost, without fail, to the first player he faces with some actual attacking chops who is willing to take the game to him.

Cilic. Hurkacz. Kyrgios. Korda. Seyboth Wild. Even Stan, Thiem, Fucsovics, PHH going back to 2019.

Why does he keep losing to these clearly inferior players? It's not just one guy. In fact it's all different guys, every time. But it's the same archetype - he gets rattled a bit when someone decides to move him off the court, when someone hits through their FH, when someone closes the net aggressively and uses his return position against him. And he doesn't really fight back. They get locked in this 5 set cage together, and his opponents get used to him, up their aggression, and suddenly Medvedev's back is against the wall and he takes all the punishment and gets KO'd. Every time.

Cilic Kyrgios and Korda all destroyed him by the way. Wasn't close. this one at least went 5, but TSW looked a lot better in the 5th set physically. Intensity wise, physically and mentally, not good.

I think he has some significant issues playing against any player with racquet talent and fearless attacking play. He doesn't adjust well. I have some serious issues with his ability to sustain intensity - indeed his serve is never great for all 5 sets, his one adjustment is rushing the net, but not doing anything differently with his baseline game, he never moves position wise. He should've lost to FAA in straights at AO 22 as well. I also think the variety of players he loses to signifies a lack of fight and cockiness going into the first week. He seemed almost insulted by Wild daring to play well, it was the same with Korda in Australia. The fight back and the intensity never really appeared, he just kind of hoped they would start missing if he kept getting balls back.

For a world #1 and top player this is not acceptable.

 

[Sudacafan]

This one was a shocker because he was playing well again recently. The other ones weren't a shock as he had lost form since the 2022 Australian Open final.

It also was a shocker because of the ranking of the player who beat him.
Medvedev should stop whining and cease criticizing clay. His attitude is stupid and childish.

 

[pj80]

Since he reached the Australian Open final in 2022 in January and became #1, Daniil Medvedev has now lost before the QF in every single Grand Slam since then.

RG 2022- 4R loss to Cilic
WB 2022- DNP as Wimbledon banned Russians
USO 2022- 4R loss to Kyrgios
AO 2023- 3R loss to Korda
RG 2023- 1R loss to Seyboth Wild

He’s had an excellent Bo3 season winning 5 tournaments so far and leading the race. But that being said, how do you become the world #1 and then fail to make even one single Slam QF in your next 5 tries?

Really should be getting more heat for this, if any other NextGen underperformed like this they’d be getting roasted. For some reason tennis fans consistently give Medvedev a pass and I don’t understand it.

He played Cilic on Monday of the second week

 

[T007]

That is the price one has to pay to win Rome.

Yes he is better Fed on clay as he won Rome and knocked out in 1st round.

 

[DSH]

Yes...losing in five to a 33 year old Nadal in the 2019 USO final, in straights to a 33 year Djokovic with a muscle tear in the 2021 AO final, and in five to a rusty/recently-returned 35 year old Nadal in the 2022 AO final.

Funny that many fans are so praising of a Medvedev (who can't beat Oldalovic at the slams), yet are so dismissive of the likes of Safin/Hewitt/Roddick (because they couldn't beat peak Federer at the slams).

Don't forget that your idol won two GS beating Cilic in those finals.
There you were silent and instead you praised the exploits of your favorite player in winning important trophies at a very old age.
Double standard when it suits you, right?

 

[StefanosWillSaveTheWorld]

A charitable reading would be that Medvedev is a dominant player in Bo3 and has the best Slam success of his generation, wiping CYGSovic in straight sets at USO 21 and being just points away from doing the same to Rafael Nadal at the AO.

And that he has just gotten unlucky with some of the draws and was struggling with injury and mental demons in 2022. Indeed, I fully expect him to shut me up and do well at the next 3 Slams, perhaps even winning the USO or AO given his awesome spring HC form.

But how about an uncharitable reading? You know, the kind that is given to the likes of Roddick, Hewitt, Safin, Ljubicic, Davydenko, Gravinboginagis, etc. Hell, the kind that is given to Zverev or Tsitsipas. The kind that deals in a more caustic, pessimistic view of the situation?

Well, his seasons going back to 2019 follow a common theme. He hums along in Bo3, plays really well on quicker surfaces where generating pace isn't an issue, takes advantage of tired legs and stays right on top of players with his serve. I think the back-to-back days really benefits his style, he rushes you on serve and pushes you to death on return, and does an excellent job with scoreboard pressure and counterpunching to break your rhythm. This is really impressive stuff.

In Slams though, in Bo5, all of his losses also follow a pretty common theme.

It seems like, to me -- he has basically lost, without fail, to the first player he faces with some actual attacking chops who is willing to take the game to him.

Cilic. Hurkacz. Kyrgios. Korda. Seyboth Wild. Even Stan, Thiem, Fucsovics, PHH going back to 2019.

Why does he keep losing to these clearly inferior players? It's not just one guy. In fact it's all different guys, every time. But it's the same archetype - he gets rattled a bit when someone decides to move him off the court, when someone hits through their FH, when someone closes the net aggressively and uses his return position against him. And he doesn't really fight back. They get locked in this 5 set cage together, and his opponents get used to him, up their aggression, and suddenly Medvedev's back is against the wall and he takes all the punishment and gets KO'd. Every time.

Cilic Kyrgios and Korda all destroyed him by the way. Wasn't close. this one at least went 5, but TSW looked a lot better in the 5th set physically. Intensity wise, physically and mentally, not good.

I think he has some significant issues playing against any player with racquet talent and fearless attacking play. He doesn't adjust well. I have some serious issues with his ability to sustain intensity - indeed his serve is never great for all 5 sets, his one adjustment is rushing the net, but not doing anything differently with his baseline game, he never moves position wise. He should've lost to FAA in straights at AO 22 as well. I also think the variety of players he loses to signifies a lack of fight and cockiness going into the first week. He seemed almost insulted by Wild daring to play well, it was the same with Korda in Australia. The fight back and the intensity never really appeared, he just kind of hoped they would start missing if he kept getting balls back.

For a world #1 and top player this is not acceptable.

Yeah, this is pretty spot on. When he got destroyed by carlos in indian wells, that was pretty eye opening. That match showed a Huge gap.

I think players are for sure starting to figure him out. If you are brave and willing to serve and volley occasionally and constantly take it to him then he is very vulnerable. BUT. In a best of 5 on hard court, i still think he is one of the best and I like his chances at the US open if he keeps the momentum he's had this year. Its all about that serve though. HAS to get free points.

 

[RS]

7 to 10 slams in any other era. Best modern strokes of all time.

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