Djokovic has dished out wooden spoons to both Nadal and Alcaraz

[Hitman]

We saw it at Paris Bercy 2023 for Alcaraz

Can anyone tell me when did he give Nadal the wooden spoon?

 

[Mivic]

AO16

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

 

[nolefam_2024]

We saw it at Paris Bercy 2023 for Alcaraz

Can anyone tell me when did he give Nadal the wooden spoon?

2016 Australian open

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

 

[pirhaksar]

Murray is such a sore loser…

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Murray is such a sore loser…

Yeah he’s pretty sour here. Djoko winning faces are pretty boss too haha!

 

[Hitman]

Nadal trying to walk towards the second round, and Verdasco kindly telling him to stop.

 

[Hitman]

Yeah he’s pretty sour here. Djoko winning faces are pretty boss too haha!

It was a bit of a beating he took from Djokovic in that final. Clearly didn't want to be there for the trophy ceremony.

 

[Neptune]

Murray is such a sore loser…

quite a contrast to 2015 RG

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

It was a bit of a beating he took from Djokovic in that final. Clearly didn't want to be there for the trophy ceremony.

I can understand Sir Andy reaction. At that point he was fed up of playing monster that is Novak Djokovic in Melbourne haha!

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Nadal trying to walk towards the second round, and Verdasco kindly telling him to stop.

Classic comment! Haha

 

[Hitman]

quite a contrast to 2015 RG

The toughest loss of Djokovic's career up to that point.

 

[RS]

Both players out of 10 that day?

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Both players out of 10 that day?

Murray 6
Djokovic 8

 

[Neptune]

I can understand Sir Andy reaction. At that point he was fed up of playing monster that is Novak Djokovic in Melbourne haha!

Wow, 5 biggest losses (4 finals and 1 sf) in 6 years, can not be worse, poor Andy...

 

[Jonas78]

I thought Nadal was Finnish winning slams at that point... one of the billion times i was wrong

 

[Hitman]

A question for all you good folks, have any of you gone back and revisited heart breaking losses by your favorites, after they managed to eventually triumph there?

For instance, how many Federer fans have gone back to look at some of those Fedal RG matches knowing he finally won RG, or Djokovic fans looking back at the Wawrinka match knowing Djokovic was going to win it the next year, or Nadal fans with those tough AO five set losses knowing he gets the second win in 2022, or the Murray fans with W 12 knowing he wins it the next year....

Or any other example.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I thought Nadal was Finnish winning slams at that point... one of the billion times i was wrong

Yep. Nadal proved us all wrong again after that year! Haha

 

[RS]

Murray 6
Djokovic 8

Respect

 

[Jonas78]

A question for all you good folks, have any of you gone back and revisited heart breaking losses by your favorites, after they managed to eventually triumph there?

For instance, how many Federer fans have gone back to look at some of those Fedal RG matches knowing he finally won RG, or Djokovic fans looking back at the Wawrinka match knowing Djokovic was going to win it the next year, or Nadal fans with those tough AO five set losses knowing he gets the second win in 2022, or the Murray fans with W 12 knowing he wins it the next year....

Or any other example.

Problem with Fed is he never got revenge vs Rafa at RG, he needed the swede to take him out. Would be easier watching som old finals if he actually beat Nadal at RG. Being a Federer fan was a tough ride, hope the next one will be easier lol.

 

[Hitman]

Problem with Fed is he never got revenge vs Rafa at RG, he needed the swede to take him out. Would be easier watching som old finals if he actually beat Nadal at RG. Being a Federer fan was a tough ride, hope the next one will be easier lol.

OK. But then how about going back to watch AO 2009 or W 2008?

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Respect

I told you I'd be back with some real hard thought out answers. I just get worried in case I've already rated it before and had different answers.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

A question for all you good folks, have any of you gone back and revisited heart breaking losses by your favorites, after they managed to eventually triumph there?

For instance, how many Federer fans have gone back to look at some of those Fedal RG matches knowing he finally won RG, or Djokovic fans looking back at the Wawrinka match knowing Djokovic was going to win it the next year, or Nadal fans with those tough AO five set losses knowing he gets the second win in 2022, or the Murray fans with W 12 knowing he wins it the next year....

Or any other example.

I have did that for all the big 3.

I love seeing how they respond in a big match when they lose. The reaction in the post match interview or on court final trophy ceremony is key.

You can just tell that the big 3 would all bounce back from their disappointments well and go again strong.

I think Fed at RG in 07/08 losses but we knew he’d keep going and then took his chance in 09 when he was knocking on the door for years. Seen his interview post 08 final and after 09 too. Then we seen Fed bounce back at Wimbledon after tough losses and the Australian 2017 was a special one for Fed too.

Djokovic at RG 2015. He was so emotional having lost to Stan and close matches to Nadal and Fed in past. He was knocking on door but he used that energy and challenged it to win in 2016. As well as his response after surgery and bad spells in 2017/2018

Nadal was pretty down in the 2015/2016 years. He came back with a vengeance in 2017. It was also impressive his response to the 7 Djokovic losses in 2011/2012. He turned the tide for a couple years after.

All 3 guys hated losing and it was why they won so much. Defeats just fueled them to go again and comeback better. Watching these back is full of nostalgia and just reminds us how special these guys were and still are. They just had this winning gene and relentless determination to be the best.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Respect

I’d probably agree with that too. It wasn’t Murray’s best final and Djokovic wasn’t at his very best height but didn’t need to be.

 

[Hitman]

I have did that for all the big 3.

I love seeing how they respond in a big match when they lose. The reaction in the post match interview or on court final trophy ceremony is key.

You can just tell that the big 3 would all bounce back from their disappointments well and go again strong.

I think Fed at RG in 07/08 losses but we knew he’d keep going and then took his chance in 09 when he was knocking on the door for years. Seen his interview post 08 final and after 09 too. Then we seen Fed bounce back at Wimbledon after tough losses and the Australian 2017 was a special one for Fed too.

Djokovic at RG 2015. He was so emotional having lost to Stan and close matches to Nadal and Fed in past. He was knocking on door but he used that energy and challenged it to win in 2016. As well as his response after surgery and bad spells in 2017/2018

Nadal was pretty down in the 2015/2016 years. He came back with a vengeance in 2017. It was also impressive his response to the 7 Djokovic losses in 2011/2012. He turned the tide for a couple years after.

All 3 guys hated losing and it was why they won so much. Defeats just fueled them to go again and comeback better. Watching these back is full of nostalgia and just reminds us how special these guys were and still are. They just had this winning gene and relentless determination to be the best.

Well said.

 

[Jonas78]

OK. But then how going back to watch AO 2009 or W 2008?

2008? No way! That and W2019 is plain torture lol. Why would i do that to myself? . I actually have watched parts of the AO finals he lost vs Rafa. 2019W was just too bad, it would have been the perfect ending for Fed if he won it.

 

[RS]

I told you I'd be back with some real hard thought out answers. I just get worried in case I've already rated it before and had different answers.

As long as Murray wasn't hitting the top of the pyramid list and above we can forget past answers

 

[Hitman]

2008? No way! That and W2019 is plain torture lol. Why would i do that to myself? . I actually have watched parts of the AO finals he lost vs Rafa. 2019W was just too bad, it would have been the perfect ending for Fed if he won it.

What about any non-slam matches?

I know a Fed fan who hated the YEC 05 result, but went back to watch it again after Federer won the next two editions.

 

[Jonas78]

What about any non-slam matches?

I know a Fed fan who hated the YEC 05 result, but went back to watch it again after Federer won the next two editions.

No not many actually. Any recommendations?

 

[Hitman]

No not many actually. Any recommendations?

Here's a few with Djokovic I would suggest for sure.

Federer v Djokovic IW 2014 final - Of course we know Federer wins IW in 2017

Federer v Djokovic Basel 2009 final - Federer beats Djokovic in the final the very next year


Federer v Roddick Canada 2003 - He beats Roddick the next year in the final

Federer v Agassi USO 2001 - He beats Agassi back to back in 04-05

 

[CoolCoolCool]

quite a contrast to 2015 RG

Wow, I didn't realize he looked that different in 2015.

The toughest loss of Djokovic's career up to that point.

Tougher than RG 13? Hard to tell.

 

[RS]

I’d probably agree with that too. It wasn’t Murray’s best final and Djokovic wasn’t at his very best height but didn’t need to be.

Djokovic could have probably played better if he needed true. He as good as already won it after the first few games.

 

[Hitman]

Wow, I didn't realize he looked that different in 2015.


Tougher than RG 13? Hard to tell.

I think so, but it spurred him onto get the Nole Slam.

 

[Mustard]

Murray is such a sore loser…

If it's from the 2015 Australian Open final, I'm not surprised. That match had crazy momentum swinging all over the place for 2 and a half sets, with Djokovic looking exhausted and ready to kneel over. Djokovic then broke through in the third set and won the fourth set 6-0 looking as fresh as a daisy. Murray got sucked in.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

If it's from the 2015 Australian Open final, I'm not surprised. That match had crazy momentum swinging all over the place for 2 and a half sets, with Djokovic looking exhausted and ready to kneel over. Djokovic then broke through in the third set and won the fourth set 6-0 looking as fresh as a daisy. Murray got sucked in.

This one was AO16. Still I can understand his disappointment to be honest. 5th loss in a big match at Melbourne to Novak.

 

[nolefam_2024]

A question for all you good folks, have any of you gone back and revisited heart breaking losses by your favorites, after they managed to eventually triumph there?

For instance, how many Federer fans have gone back to look at some of those Fedal RG matches knowing he finally won RG, or Djokovic fans looking back at the Wawrinka match knowing Djokovic was going to win it the next year, or Nadal fans with those tough AO five set losses knowing he gets the second win in 2022, or the Murray fans with W 12 knowing he wins it the next year....

Or any other example.

I don't know if this counts but I have watched USOpen 2013 final after every single Nole USOpen win. 2015 2018 and 2023. It's a shock how he lost it so badly after being up in the third. He was hitting heavy in that set.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I don't know if this counts but I have watched USOpen 2013 final after every single Nole USOpen win. 2015 2018 and 2023. It's a shock how he lost it so badly after being up in the third. He was hitting heavy in that set.

At that point in time Nadal had Djokovic mentally. Novak played a pretty high level final but choked in key points. Rafa was more aggressive or confident in the break points and break points saved part of match. Nadal was more consistent and had less errors. Both guys played some great offensive tennis, long rallies especially the 50 odd one where Novak broke serve in 2nd set.

Credit to Rafa that day as he was better and consistent. This match though motivated Djokovic to get better and hire Becker as coach.

That is a good example of a tough loss for Novak which he used to comeback better.