Djokovic on hardcourt > Nadal on clay?

[GoldenMasters]

I got banned for threads like this. But keep “trolling away” Djokovic fans.

You will be banned again don't worry.

 

[RelentlessAttack]

Nadal on clay is better, but it’s closer than you think. His clay competition has been a joke compared to Novak’s HC and grass comp.

lmfao

 

[RS]

This poll aged well.

 

[ChrisRF]

If competition doesn't matter Tilden is the statistical GOAT, not any of the Big3.

For example he won 8 Slams in a row (Djokovic 4, Nadal 3, Federer 3).

Tilden didn’t win 8 Slams in a row, because that would make him a CYGS champion, which he never was. Maybe he won 8 in a row that here entered, but that’s a totally different Thing.

 

[NatF]

Coming to all good book stores near you in March 2021, "How to Shoot Yourself in the Foot" - by Lew. This is following on from his previous success, "Geometric Mean, Dumbies are for stats."

 

[Third Serve]

Ban something you disagree with? You're so open to dialogue...

hmm

Mods, stop this.

 

[Sephiroth]

 

[Sephiroth]

also LOL @ the poll results

the OP:

 

[duaneeo]

There's only one possible answer: HELL to the NO!

 

[Sephiroth]

When even @StrongRule votes something in favour of Nadal you know your hot take is that BAD

 

[Sport]

With two clay Slams most players would be claycourters, therefore the competition would be higher on clay and lower and hardcourts.

Djokovic might have 13 AO titles and Nadal might have a 3-5 score in finals at one of the clay Slams, as far as we know.

Untestable, therefore unprovable, therefore irrelevant.

 

[Confucio]

What does this tell us?

 

[Lew II]

Untestable, therefore unprovable, therefore irrelevant.

I know. Just like the hypothetical 25 clay Slam titles for Nadal if there were two Slams on clay.

 

[RS]

With two clay Slams most players would be claycourters, therefore the competition would be higher on clay and lower and hardcourts.

Djokovic might have 13 AO titles and Nadal might have a 3-5 score in finals at one of the clay Slams, as far as we know.

Make this bit a thread

 

[Lew II]

also LOL @ the poll results

the OP:

I didn't expect different results. I just wanted people to reflect on some things.

 

[Lew II]

hmm

I made an exception for abmk

 

[Third Serve]

I made an exception for abmk

Just as I make an exception for these sorts of opinions. Say that Djokovic is the GOAT? I disagree, but it's an opinion I can respect. Things like "Fed peaked in 2015" or "Djokovic on hardcourt is close to/better than Nadal on clay" I just can't give a platform to.

btw the "bannable offense" bit was pretty clearly a facetious comment to show how much I hate those opinions. No one should get banned for having an opinion, but it doesn't mean those opinions aren't terrible lol

 

[Sephiroth]

I didn't expect different results. I just wanted people to reflect on some things.

There is nothing to reflect when the answer is so obvious

 

[Gary Duane]

I didn't expect different results. I just wanted people to reflect on some things.

We are reflecting on why you made the poll, what you thought you would accomplish, and we are all shaking our heads.

 

[JoelSandwich]

Not 50 ... he would have close to 30

On Grass and HCs he is significantly weaker than Federer + Djokovic, so in a 2 slams scenaio the other 2 slams would be fast, Nadal would not win in the presence of them.

Was exaggerating

 

[Deleted member 762343]

Lmao no.

 

[RS]

Not even going vote Nadal in the poll.......

 

[-NN-]

TBH you've sold me.

 

[StrongRule]

Not even going vote Nadal in the poll.......

Why not? Every vote is important.

 

[mike danny]

Why not? Every vote is important.

Yeah, Nadal needs all the help he can get. He is being destroyed here.

 

[ADuck]

With two clay Slams most players would be claycourters, therefore the competition would be higher on clay and lower and hardcourts.

Djokovic might have 13 AO titles and Nadal might have a 3-5 score in finals at one of the clay Slams, as far as we know.

So Nadal would have less clay slams than he does right now if there were two of them?

 

[duaneeo]

Why not? Every vote is important.

I agree. The board needs to show in big numbers that most of us have common sense. Nothing less than 95% is acceptable.

 

[Lew II]

So Nadal would have less clay slams than he does right now if there were two of them?

No. About the same. Read better.

 

[chjtennis]

It seems hard court is everyone's best surface except for Nadal, which means being the best on hardcourt in this era means just a little more IMHO.

 

[ADuck]

No. About the same. Read better.

Lol. It just doesn't make sense and you know it for the reasons I've previously told you.

 

[StrongRule]

Yeah, Nadal needs all the help he can get. He is being destroyed here.

Think of it as votes against Lew's cherry picked stats.

 

[RF-18]

It seems hard court is everyone's best surface except for Nadal, which means being the best on hardcourt in this era means just a little more IMHO.

This. Competition is higher but still not a good enough argument to favour Djoko considering also some of his losses at USO.

But still hard to argue against Nadals numbers. He has 13 off a single slam.

 

[JustMy2Cents]

OP, make a poll ... is the following statement right/wrong : Rafa says water is wet.

The same guys voting yes and don't know to your current poll will vote wrong to that new poll!

Reflect on this when you have some time

You are bringing down a worthy champion Djokovic by indulging in such stupid mental gymnastics

 

[RS]

Why not? Every vote is important.

For pity sake.

 

[Sephiroth]

Never seen such a one sided poll, the results looking like Nadal's win percentage at RG