No one said he's not good. We're just saying if he were to play Djokovic right now, Djoker would win.
I think Safin's popularity has gone downhill this year. Too many first and second round losses.
Djokovic vs. Nalbandian, who's better on clay?
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No one said he's not good. We're just saying if he were to play Djokovic right now, Djoker would win.
I think Safin's popularity has gone downhill this year. Too many first and second round losses.
edberg505
Legend
You are an obnoxious little sh*t aren't you. I usually don't care about Nadal winning the FO. But this year I will give anything to see Nadal not win this damn title just to hear your excuses. You'd probably ball up into a little corner and have a nervous breakdown if your beloved Nadal doesn't bring home the FO title. So here's hoping someone hands him a beat down.
edberg505
Legend
Tell that to Federer and Nadal.
MajinX
Professional
wawrinka's game is obviously not a good match for nalbandian, their head to had is 5-2 now. and he is the number 2 swiss player.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Resorting to name-calling I see. Yeah your precious Nalbandian let you down and now you are throwing a hissy fit. Djokovic is simply better than Nalbandian. You must have something against Djokovic to not see that. He earned his spot at number 3.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
There is quite a difference between Indoor hardcourts and clay. Nalbandian hasn't beaten either Federer or Nadal on clay.
edberg505
Legend
My friend, it isn't name calling if it's truth. And I'm sure that there are plenty of people here that agree with me. Everyone knows you are the biggest troll on this board and I seriously doubt there is any dispute to that fact. I don't even think you are even a fan of tennis. I bet if Nadal were to retire next year (hoping he doesn't) we would probably never see you on these boards again. In the past 2 min while typing this post I have probably forgotten more tennis than you will ever know. And I'm not a Nalbandian fan by the way, I am a fan of tennis. I am just as likely to go out and watch a couple of 3.5's play tennis as I am to go out and watch a couple of pros. Do you even play tennis?
Nadal_Freak
Banned
It's not the truth. Read my posts. I have plenty of intelligent tennis talk. I was a Agassi fan in the 90's and now a Nadal fan. Nothing wrong with having favorite players. I always disliked Edberg. He needs to get a personality.
Serpententacle
Hall of Fame
Yeah, but Safin's been washed up for a while.
edberg505
Legend
It's not the truth. Read my posts. I have plenty of intelligent tennis talk. I was a Agassi fan in the 90's and now a Nadal fan. Nothing wrong with having favorite players. I always disliked Edberg. He needs to get a personality.
Sure its the truth and I'm not the only one that thinks so. Edberg doesn't need a personality, he has 6 slams and has been to the finals of every single one of them. Come and find me when Nadal does that friendo.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Edberg didn't have to deal with the GOAT. Most of his titles came before the dominance of Sampras. Nadal would probably have 2 Wimbledon's right now if it wasn't for Federer. Btw Edberg's style would not suit well to todays game. Too many quality counter-punchers.
To say that Djokovic is better on clay than Nalbandian is laughable. Who played Federer better at MC? Nalbandian. He at least managed to win a set, and, ya know, not retire.
Come on, Nalbandian is a pretty good clay-court player. Djokovic is only good on clay against weak opponents.
Come on, Nalbandian is a pretty good clay-court player. Djokovic is only good on clay against weak opponents.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Federer's confidence level was sky high after beating Nalbandian. Djokovic got Federer's best. Go back a couple rounds and Federer almost lost to Hidalgo. I thought Djokovic played alright against Federer but Fed was on fire.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Has Djoko ever won a clay court tournament? If yes, which one(s)?
edberg505
Legend
Sampras and Edberg played 14 times. So I have no idea what you are talking about. And he also played in the Wilander, Courier and Lendl era so you can save that BS. Edberg play and won on grass when it was REAL grass, polar opposites of clay and he still made it to the finals of all 4 slams. And I would love to see Nadal play a true serve and volleyer.
zagor
Bionic Poster
He won Estoril last year,he beat Gasquet in the final.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
It would be like Agassi-Edberg, a pass fest!
edberg505
Legend
LOL, the very fact that you are comparing Nadal and Agassi is laughable. Nadal didn't even beat Chris Guccione
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Sampras was not great on grass until about 1994. By than Edberg racked up enough titles for you to brag about. Courier and Lendl were non-factors on fast surfaces. (grass) Becker was solid but not close to dominating what Fed does these days. The US Open and Wimbledon were more winnable back than when there wasn't a player that dominated the fast surfaces.
Arguably, Federer played just as well if not better against Nalbandian. To be sure, his confidence was sky-high after that, but so what? Djokovic's should have been too, after he'd just crushed everyone he faced (although maybe he was factoring in that they weren't really particularly great clay-court players).
I just don't get how you can say Djoko is better on clay than Nalby. His game doesn't suit clay very well, imho.
edberg505
Legend
LOL, whatever makes you sleep better at night. Like I said, come and find me when Nadal matches Edberg's feat. Hell, come and find me the next time he wins a title outside of clay. Hopefully that won't be a while.
Oh and by the way, since when is making multiple US Opens and Wimby finals make Lendl a non factor. Like I said, you know nothing about tennis.
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veroniquem
Bionic Poster
He beat lots of other people and got close to beating Fed, remember?
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
It's a good thing Edberg is retired. Can you imagine what would happen if I told you to call me next time Edberg wins a tournament on clay?!
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Lendl being a threat on grass? That's news to me. I hear he has 0 titles there. lol It is laughable to compare any player of that generation pre-Sampras to Federer on fast courts.
edberg505
Legend
I have no idea what you are going on about here.
Hey my friend Edberg has won titles on clay. But whatever you say. But come and find me when he wins something other than a clay court title.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Late 80's-Early 90's was where Edberg got those titles. McEnroe was past his prime and Becker, young Sampras, and Ivanisevic were about it. Yes it wasn't easy but much more achievable than todays field with Federer and Djokovic dominating the fast surfaces. Especially Fed.
edberg505
Legend
I'm willing to bet you that Nadal will never match any of Lendls numbers either since you think Lendl was a nothing. Oh, remind me of how many titles Nadal has on grass? Yeah, that's what I thought.
vive le beau jeu !
Talk Tennis Guru
... it would be absolutely ridiculous to question the quality of edberg's opponents during his career ! he had to face many tough guys...
(by the way... why 505 ?)
edberg505
Legend
Djokovic? Dude, Djokovic just started winning titles last year. So Djokovic is the reason Nadal doesn't have any hardcourt and grass titles? Gimme a break.
Nadal_Freak
Banned
Lendl dominated the surfaces that weren't grass. Fed and Djokovic would destroy Edberg's chances of winning titles as well. You win as much as the field will let you. Unless you are close to GOAT status which Edberg and Agassi aren't.
edberg505
Legend
... it would be absolutely ridiculous to question the quality of edberg's opponents during his career ! he had to face many tough guys...
(by the way... why 505 ?)
lol, it's the area code for New Mexico, which is where I live.
edberg505
Legend
First you said it was fast surfaces now it's grass he didn't dominate, which one is it?
Nadal_Freak
Banned
FAST SURFACES equal GRASS if you didn't know that. US OPEN Is MEDIUM-FAST but I wouldn't call that lightning quick. Becker usually beat Edberg from what I remember as well and Federer>Becker.
edberg505
Legend
FAST SURFACES equal GRASS if you didn't know that. US OPEN Is MEDIUM-FAST but I wouldn't call that lightning quick. Becker usually beat Edberg from what I remember as well and Federer>Becker.
Hey, whatever flats your boat. Just come and find me when he wins a slam that isn't on clay and gets 6 slams and a gold medal. Until then:
Edberg is better!
Edberg is better!
Edberg is better!
Agree! Until Nadal beats 6 grand slams titles, become No.1 player of the world(harder now that Djokovic has emerged and Fed still looking to dominate) and
Singles Record: 806 - 270
Singles Titles: 42
Doubles Titles: 18
Until then - Edberg>Nadal
Strings And Things
Rookie
I agree with you 100%. If I were to go with the averages, it would definitely be a safer bet to go with Djoker.
Yes Nalby is insane when he's on (aggressive shotmaker, accurate, services winners/point setups), but he's not always there.
