Fed get's lucky again.......

[Turning Pro]

with the 2 tie-breaks. Roddick broke overall more times then Fed in the match yet still loses? lol federers luck and his weak field of competition between 03-07 when Nadal, Djoker and Murray not even at their peaks proves he isn't the G.O.A.T but Laver is and Sampras is above him purely because of the stronger era and the lack of ownership by his chief rival, Agassi.

EDIT:

Sorry guys but Roddick had 4 CONSECUTIVE break points in the second and definitely got lucky then.

ALSO:

Andy Roddick, coming off a grueling five-set Wimbledon marathon against Roger Federer over the weekend, will not join the United States' Davis Cup team in its quarterfinal matchup this Friday.

The U.S. Tennis Association said the sixth-ranked Roddick suffered a hip injury during Sunday's finale at All England Club and will miss the nation's July 10-12 assignment against Croatia.

The fourth-seeded Americans will head to the indoor clay courts in Porec, Croatia with the aim of making the semifinals in September and ultimately, the final in December.

Roddick skidded to the grass in pain during the eighth game of the fourth set against Federer.

He eventually finished the match but Federer went on to win 5-7, 7-6 (6), 7-6 (5), 3-6, 16-14 after more than four hours of action.

The USTA said Mardy Fish will take Roddick's spot in the Davis Cup team. Fish made the third-round last week at Wimbledon.

http://www.allheadlinenews.com/arti...orces Wimby Finalist Roddick Out Of Davis Cup

 

[zagor]

Oh cry me a river.

 

[shawn1122]

Djokovic and Murray were in the draw idiot, and they lost to your so called "weak era" players...

 

[ACE of Hearts]

Yawn!!Yawn, another troll, sour grapes.

 

[BigServer1]

Yup. Djokovic and Murray are amazing, much, MUCH better than Andy Roddick, which was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt this tournament.

 

[Tennis_Maestro]

Oh please.

I'll put your crappy, little, simple minded argument to bed....

Roddick Federer
1st Serve % 168 of 239 = 70% 127 of 197 = 64%
Aces 27 50
Double Faults 4 4
Unforced Errors 33 38
Winning % on 1st Serve 140 of 168 = 83% 113 of 127 = 89%
Winning % on 2nd Serve 31 of 71 = 44% 42 of 70 = 60%
Winners (Inc.) 74 107
Receiving Points Won 42 of 197 = 21% 68 of 239 = 28%
Break Point Conversions 2 of 5 = 40% 1 of 7 = 14%
Net Approaches 42 of 69 = 61% 38 of 59 = 64%
Total Points Won 213 223
Fastest Serve Speed 143 MPH 135 MPH
Average 1st Serve Speed 127 MPH 118 MPH
Average 2nd Serve Speed 105 MPH 98 MPH
Match time: Four hours and 16 minutes

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL449183720090705

Federer served 50 aces compared to Roddick's 27

Federer also made 107 winners compared to Roddicks 74

 

[zagor]

Yup. Djokovic and Murray are amazing, much, MUCH better than Andy Roddick, which was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt this tournament.

LOL,yes they are 1000 X better than him(as GameSampras would say)yet 27 year old Roddick outperformed them BOTH at slams this year and beat BOTH OF THEM at slams this year

 

[Scorch]

B.O.O. H.O.O

You make your own luck over a 5 set match.

 

[kimbahpnam]

i still don't know how people with posts 1000+ can still make posts like this.

 

[Cenc]

well
obviously 15 slams>14 slams which makes fed more successful slam player
thats a fact
he still has 2 more years to finish as world n1 until it becomes completely obvious in every aspect that he did more than sampras

but none of that makes him a better player though... better player is thing of opinion
and because of those reasons: weak competition, lots of luck and opponents beating themselves, imo sampras was and will be better player

 

[FedFan_2009]

Bitterness is a nice drink.

 

[FuriousYellow]

The only lucky break Federer got was serving first in the fifth set.

 

[harrpau7]

I think Fed did get a little lucky today, over the course of the match I think Roddick deserved to win, felt so bad for him.

But at the same time, Fed getting 15 slams is an amazing achievement.

Today should of been Roddick's day though, if he had took the 2nd set he would of won.

 

[Breaker]

"Gets" has no apostrophe.

 

[JeMar]

with the 2 tie-breaks. Roddick broke overall more times then Fed in the match yet still loses? lol federers luck and his weak field of competition between 03-07 when Nadal, Djoker and Murray not even at their peaks proves he isn't the G.O.A.T but Laver is and Sampras is above him purely because of the stronger era and the lack of ownership by his chief rival, Agassi.

 

[kimbahpnam]

nice! that was quick work

 

[SempreSami]

i still don't know how people with posts 1000+ can still make posts like this.

BreakPoint's been at it for 20,000+

 

[cork_screw]

Please, luck has nothing to do with it if you're the one creating the plays. Roddick didn't mess up as much as federer made better plays in pressure situations and didn't choke or get nervous like a lot of other players would in that pressure situation. He's mentally tough. When Roddick was up 6-2 tiebreak second set, fed hit 2 aces back to back on his serve. Those weren't because of luck, it's called talent.

 

[JeMar]

nice! that was quick work

Someone was nice enough to make it after the French Open last month. I just added the red letters. :twisted:

 

[DavidGarcia]

He was not lucky he was just too good for Roddick.

 

[avmoghe]

His level of play sucked - plain and simple. Yes, he had a lot of winners - but they didn't come at the best times. He had numerous second serves which he should've put back into play - and numerous passing shots he missed (that he wouldn't have missed a couple of years ago).

I agree that Federer got lucky in winning this slam. Doesn't mean he didn't have his fair share of skill in winning those 3 sets... but the luck was still there.

His serving saved his ass today IMO.

 

[zagor]

An appropriate response.

 

[drakulie]

with the 2 tie-breaks. Roddick broke overall more times then Fed in the match yet still loses? lol federers luck and his weak field of competition between 03-07 when Nadal, Djoker and Murray not even at their peaks proves he isn't the G.O.A.T but Laver is and Sampras is above him purely because of the stronger era and the lack of ownership by his chief rival, Agassi.

 

[raiden031]

Oh please.

I'll put your crappy, little, simple minded argument to bed....

Roddick Federer
1st Serve % 168 of 239 = 70% 127 of 197 = 64%
Aces 27 50
Double Faults 4 4
Unforced Errors 33 38
Winning % on 1st Serve 140 of 168 = 83% 113 of 127 = 89%
Winning % on 2nd Serve 31 of 71 = 44% 42 of 70 = 60%
Winners (Inc.) 74 107
Receiving Points Won 42 of 197 = 21% 68 of 239 = 28%
Break Point Conversions 2 of 5 = 40% 1 of 7 = 14%
Net Approaches 42 of 69 = 61% 38 of 59 = 64%
Total Points Won 213 223
Fastest Serve Speed 143 MPH 135 MPH
Average 1st Serve Speed 127 MPH 118 MPH
Average 2nd Serve Speed 105 MPH 98 MPH
Match time: Four hours and 16 minutes

http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKL449183720090705

Federer served 50 aces compared to Roddick's 27

Federer also made 107 winners compared to Roddicks 74

I thought it was interesting that Fed sorta out-played Roddick in the stats, despite what the score was. Roddick played better in the key moments though, but i did notice that even though he held every game except the last, he would allow Fed to win more points on his serve than Fed would.

 

[zhukov97]

They never show the guts today Roddick has!

Yup. Djokovic and Murray are amazing, much, MUCH better than Andy Roddick, which was proved beyond a shadow of a doubt this tournament.

They never show the guts today Roddick has!

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Oh cry me a river.

so you dont believe that fed won this whole shebang because he did his best serve game in the entire career?

do you have any doubt that he would have lost, had he serve like he did last year? or like he did the past few months?

 

[AAAA]

"Every time he wins one a piece of me dies"
- <insert your name here>

 

[zagor]

so you dont believe that fed won this whole shebang because he did his best serve game in the entire career?

do you have any doubt that he would have lost, had he serve like he did last year? or like he did the past few months?

Sure his serve bailed him out plenty of times today but serve is the most important part of the game,especially on grass.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Sure his serve bailed him out plenty of times today but serve is the most important part of the game,especially on grass.

last year he served 25 aces Zagor... no.. his serve didnt bail him! his serve won him this thing... in Baseline rallies roddick was owning him! and dont tell me about winners because that is not the whole story.

Fed won fair and square but if there is one day we can say he got lucky was today! that is all!

 

[zagor]

last year he served 25 aces Zagor... no.. his serve didnt bail him! his serve won him this thing... in Baseline rallies roddick was owning him! and dont tell me about winners because that is not the whole story.

Fed won fair and square but if there is one day we can say he got lucky was today! that is all!

Oh I agree Roddick had the upper hand from the baseline today,was surprised by that but he did.He was beating Fed from the baseline and his BH was wonderful today.

Ok,Fed was lucky to have had the best serving day in his career.But that's what great champions do is it not? They pull out big serves when they most need them.

 

[dh003i]

Sure his serve bailed him out plenty of times today but serve is the most important part of the game,especially on grass.

Yep, I agree...if he served significantly worse, he would have lost. But that doesn't mean necessarily that if he served any worse he would've lost. He only needed to serve well enough to get to 15-14 in the 5th. Whether he held serve easily, or by overcoming deuces and break-points isn't too relevant. What was relevant is him finding the big serves when he needed them (he did that) and eventually finding a way to break Roddick.

Who knows, maybe if he had to work harder on some of his serves, he would've worked up a baseline groove earlier and sooner be able to break Roddick in the 5th.

You don't know what would have happened had he not served so incredibly well.

But the reality is, he did serve incredible; he had the best serving day of his entire career. And that isn't entirely luck; he worked hard on his serve after that disastrous AO final.

I mean, you want to say, "what if he didn't serve so well?" Then your'e playing the "what-if" game, and we can ask a million other questions; what if he didn't falter on his serve in the 1st and 4th set? What if he played better from the baseline? What if Roddick didn't serve so well (yea, Roddick had a tremendous serving day too, seeing as how he was only broken once in the final game of the final set).

I'm happy I got to watch a great match, and that Roddick played so well. He's really improved his game, played well at the net, and used some incredibly soft touch at times.

 

[drakulie]

I disagree Roddick beat Fed from the ground. Take away both players aces, and you have the following stats:

Winners:
Fed: 57
Roddick: 47

 

[Deleted member 21996]

Oh I agree Roddick had the upper hand from the baseline today,was surprised by that but he did.He was beating Fed from the baseline and his BH was wonderful today.

Ok,Fed was lucky to have had the best serving day in his career.But that's what great champions do is it not? They pull out big serves when they most need them.

yeah... cannot disagree with you!

 

[dh003i]

Oh I agree Roddick had the upper hand from the baseline today,was surprised by that but he did.He was beating Fed from the baseline and his BH was wonderful today.

Ok,Fed was lucky to have had the best serving day in his career.But that's what great champions do is it not? They pull out big serves when they most need them.

It's also not entirely luck that he served so well today. He served awfully in the AO final, that was partially unlucky, partially due to maybe a little complacency on that shot. He's worked very hard on it, and it wasn't just some miracle that he served so well today; he served great from Madrid up until today.

Also, you can say that Roddick had a career serving day, at least against Federer. Not being broken by Federer until the final game of the final set was pretty incredible. He also had a lot of aces, a lot of unreturnables (particularly due to the body serves).

I mean, in some ways, Roddick's serve was more impressive than Federer's today, seeing as how Federer was broken in the 1st and 4th set. So lets not forget that either.

 

[Deleted member 21996]

I disagree Roddick beat Fed from the ground. Take away both players aces, and you have the following stats:

Winners:
Fed: 57
Roddick: 47

yeah... because that is all there is on a match... Serves and Winners!

what about unforced errors and all the rest?

Drak... you know better than that! unless you want to go Nadal_Freak style and go for you own "very special" stats!

 

[jukka1970]

with the 2 tie-breaks. Roddick broke overall more times then Fed in the match yet still loses? lol federers luck and his weak field of competition between 03-07 when Nadal, Djoker and Murray not even at their peaks proves he isn't the G.O.A.T but Laver is and Sampras is above him purely because of the stronger era and the lack of ownership by his chief rival, Agassi.

lmao, what garbage. This theory has more holes in it then swiss cheese. By the way if you listened to Laver comment after the match when asked if he would have won all these slams in between he said, well there was Rosewall, Gonzalez, (i forget who the third was) and they would have been playing if I was playing.

There is one thing that is for sure though, Federer is the GOAT, and the very last argument against it, went away today as Federer now has the most slams

 

[zagor]

It's also not entirely luck that he served so well today. He served awfully in the AO final, that was partially unlucky, partially due to maybe a little complacency on that shot. He's worked very hard on it, and it wasn't just some miracle that he served so well today; he served great from Madrid up until today.

Also, you can say that Roddick had a career serving day, at least against Federer. Not being broken by Federer until the final game of the final set was pretty incredible. He also had a lot of aces, a lot of unreturnables (particularly due to the body serves).

I mean, in some ways, Roddick's serve was more impressive than Federer's today, seeing as how Federer was broken in the 1st and 4th set. So lets not forget that either.

Loved those,on most big points Roddick went for a body blow.Yes Fed serve has been clicking lately and was amazing today.

 

[swedechris]

Good players tend to have some luck , great ones a lot of it .. for they deserve it .

 

[drakulie]

yeah... because that is all there is on a match... Serves and Winners!

what about unforced errors and all the rest?

Drak... you know better than that! unless you want to go Nadal_Freak style and go for you own "very special" stats!

I would venture to say the ground game was failry even, with a slight nod to Federer. Sure, Federer had more aces than Roddick, but would venture to say Roddick had way more unreturnable serves that Fed.

 

[zagor]

yeah... because that is all there is on a match... Serves and Winners!

what about unforced errors and all the rest?

Drak... you know better than that! unless you want to go Nadal_Freak style and go for you own "very special" stats!

It's actually forced errors IMO that are important.Plenty of times Roddick hit a big shot off the ground on which Fed got a racquet on but couldn't return in court.Roddick won plenty of those kind of points against both Murray and Fed.

 

[The tennis guy]

Great champions find their own luck: they win by playing well, they win by making opponent playing bad, they win by finding something extra when their opponents are on fire. Federer found something extra from his serve today when Roddick had huge serves, and battled him to a draw from the ground.

This is what Murray and Djokovic need to learn. Murray couldn't find anything extra at both Australia and Wimbledon when his opponents were on fire. They worried too much what Federer thought about their games, showing insecurity. Federer was not as impressive with Murray and Djokovic's game as Nadal's, and rightfully so.

 

[gopokes]

The unsung hero today was Federer's mind - Fed had plenty of opportunities to fold in the 5th, but he found ways to stay tough. He was clearly not at his best and that was to Roddick's credit. He played well enough to keep Fed from ever feeling comfortable out there. There were a lot of winners alright, but Fed played conservatively throughout the match, waiting for the old Roddick to crater, which never happened until the last game of the match. I tip my cap to Roddick for keeping Fed honest and letting it all hang out. I'm with the guys that reminded us that players make their own luck, especially on the biggest day and stage in tennis.
GP

 

[Cenc]

dont get it wrong but its sad if u cant see or hear anything because of feds slam titles

 

[Cenc]

I disagree Roddick beat Fed from the ground. Take away both players aces, and you have the following stats:

Winners:
Fed: 57
Roddick: 47

i thought only serve counts... i mean thats what u were saying...

 

[Turning Pro]

didn't roddick also have sets points in the 2nd or was it 3rd?

 

[Pwned]

What you said, OP, is as dumb as saying Roddick got lucky for Fed's poor play in the games Roddick broke Federer.

 

[Fedex]

with the 2 tie-breaks. Roddick broke overall more times then Fed in the match yet still loses? lol federers luck and his weak field of competition between 03-07 when Nadal, Djoker and Murray not even at their peaks proves he isn't the G.O.A.T but Laver is and Sampras is above him purely because of the stronger era and the lack of ownership by his chief rival, Agassi.

I agree with you. Fed got out of jail a few times. This should have been Roddick's day. Can't think of many, if any, players that could have withstood that onslaught so you have to give great credit to Fed.
As for saying other players of the past are better than Fed or Fed is better than them, you can't really say that.
There's no doubt that Fed is, at least, up there with the best.
You can say that Borg is the best because he won more slams in a shorter period than anyone else but he hardly gets a mention.

 

[JeMar]

dont get it wrong but its sad if u cant see or hear anything because of feds slam titles

Taking it a little too literally there, my friend. Dumb, thoughtless posts like the OP's deserve dumb, thoughtless responses.

 

[GasquetGOAT]

Some great backgrounds for the sore losers mmmhahaha

 

[tintin]

looks like Federer is "lucky" indeed:roll:.I mean Roddick has lost to:

G.Muller in 2005 in NY

Murray at the 2006 Wimbledon

Gasquet in 2007 at Wimbledon

Kohlschreiber last year at the Aussie

Tipsarevic last year at Wimbledon

Djokovic at last year's USO have ALL kept Roddick from winning slams and we're not going to talk about Federer stopping him or every time he's lost in Paris to spare you more grief:roll: :lol: