Fed leads with 6 tour titles for 2019

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Yes we know, it's been well established that Djokovic requires a massive choke from Federer to beat him, even when Fed's 38 years old.
The well established part is he has beaten Federer countless times in countless previous seasons. And you were butthurt every single time that happened. :whistle:

But even I have to be nice enough and say congratulations to Federer on being 38 years old. (y) How does he manage to get up every morning, especially since The 40-15...
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
The well established part is he has beaten Federer countless times in countless previous seasons. And you were butthurt every single time that happened. :whistle:

But even I have to be nice enough and say congratulations to Federer on being 38 years old. (y) How does he manage to get up every morning, especially since The 40-15...

He won Basel , 103 titles and won 10 titles at both HC and grass event .

Move on ..
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
The well established part is he has beaten Federer countless times in countless previous seasons. And you were butthurt every single time that happened. :whistle:
Except in happened in 3 different Slams from the master fluker
But even I have to be nice enough and say congratulations to Federer on being 38 years old. (y) How does he manage to get up every morning, especially since The 40-15...
neither do I bro, to such degree that I can't even hear you well, the sound of 20 Slams is echoing too much in my room

it's kinda shocking that Novack is only 4 Slams from Fed considering he fluked so many of them
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
Except in happened in 3 different Slams from the master fluker

neither do I bro, to such degree that I can't even hear you well, the sound of 20 Slams is echoing too much in my room

it's kinda shocking that Novack is only 4 Slams from Fed considering he fluked so many of them
When gramps can't close it out on three different occasions against the same dude, blame it on a fluke. :giggle:

The Mallorcan fisherman will wreck your attempt of bragging rights soon enough, and by then you won't even hear yourself from the 40-15 echos. I don't doubt it, I mean it made you run away like a wuss once already. :whistle:
 
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Deleted member 763691

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If Nadal reaches 25, he will be my GOAT, even with like 20 FO.
Well if he has 25 slams it means he's got a maximum of 18 French Opens (but most likely a lot less).
Anyway GOAT isn't a real thing - there is no criteria - so I'll never call Rafa GOAT :)
 

tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
When gramps can't close it out on three different occasions against the same dude, blame it on a fluke. :giggle:
I mean yeah those were totally controlled wins from match points down from Djokovic.
The Mallorcan fisherman will wreck your attempt of bragging rights soon enough, and by then you won't even hear yourself from the 40-15 echos. I don't doubt it, I mean it made you run away like a wuss once already. :whistle:
Do you come from the future? Please give me the winning lottery numbers, you seem to know a lot about stuff that will happen for sure like a 34+ year old guy winning multiple Slams with zero resistance.

Until that happens you can shove those 20 Slams deeeeeep
 
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RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
I mean yeah those were totally controlled wins from match points down from Djokovic.

Do you come from the future? Please give me the winning lottery numbers, you seem to know a lot about stuff that will happen for sure like a 34+ year old guy winning multiple Slams with zero resistance.

Until that happens you can shove those 20 Slams deeeeeep

All three occasions it was done by pure skill. Not much Fed could have done. Djokovic was just too Good unfortunately :(
 

WhiskeyEE

G.O.A.T.
Routines Tsitsi and De Minaur. Where was this Fed at the USO? Or last year's USO?

Peaking at the right times it seems.
 
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Deleted member 763691

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Nadal fans were counting on Djokovic to break Fed's records and now Djokovic fans are counting on Nadal LMAO.
Djokovic can retire today for all I care :)
Other than Rafa's unbelievable Roland Garros record, the only record that the world cares about is Federer's 20 slams, and Rafa is about to tie and beat that.

And Rafa already has the Masters record.
And Rafa is closer to the US Open record than Djokovic is.
And Rafa is about to tie Djokovic/Federer with 5 year-end-#1s, but Sampras has the record anyway..

The weeks at #1 is the only thing Djokovic can get, but hardly anyone can even say how many weeks that is, its quite trivial.
Djokovic is bad for Rafa, because he's prevented Rafa from getting the Double Career Grand Slam.
 

BHud

Hall of Fame
Federer has won in 2019
  • Hopman
  • Miami
  • Dubai
  • Halle
  • Laver
  • Basel

Nadal has 5 (2 majors, 2 masters and 1 Laver Cup) and Djokovic has 4 (2 majors, 1 masters and 1 500).
Um...thanks? Fed fans wish they could “unsee” what you posted...
 

Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil

Talk Tennis Guru
I mean yeah those were totally controlled wins from match points down from Djokovic.

Do you come from the future? Please give me the winning lottery numbers, you seem to know a lot about stuff that will happen for sure like a 34+ year old guy winning multiple Slams with zero resistance.

Until that happens you can shove those 20 Slams deeeeeep
Well of course. We agree on that.

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Nadal will find a way to prove folks wrong just a little more. And once he does that, there are two options: accepting it, or running away like a chicken and then coming back later spamming the place with Berrettini. :whistle:
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
I would like to pose a question for which the answer is, I think, a paradox: Who has the most moral titles in 2019?

Now, ordinarily, the answer to this would be obvious: Bull. Bull, after alll, is morally unbeatable, and has claimed every single moral title in 2019. For example, he was the clear moral victor at both Basel and Vienna this week, as it is unfair that he is not allowed to play in two events in two different cities at the same time, as he would clearly win both were he not cheated in various ways by the event organizers (logistical cheating, surface cheating, roof cheating, and so on).

But, on the other hand, now that Federer is 13.9 billion years old, his moral credentials are unimpeachable, too. After all, it is grossly unfair for a man the age of the universe to be expected to compete with young whippersnappers like Stefanos Tsitsipas and Alex De Minaur, whom he would obviously have beaten 12-0 and 12-0 (i.e. 6-0 6-0) were he in [sic] his peak or even in his prime or to be honest even in his near-prime or even in his somewhat-proximate-but-really-pretty-far-away peak or even in his initial valley after the first of his infinite number of declines. As a result, Federer, too, has claimed every single moral title in 2019. For example, he was the clear moral victor at Vienna this week, as he obviously would have won it were he a bit younger and so able to sprint back and forth between Basel and Vienna in time to double up.

Ergo both Nadal and Federer have been the moral victors at every tournament held in 2019. But that is a paradox, as there can only be one moral victor, surely. After all, as Plato noted, there is one form or ideal for every pale imitation of that form in the phenomenal realm. For example, there is one chair that is the essence of a chair and that all actual "chairs" imitate. As a moral victor is a type of form, there must always be one moral victor of whom the actual victor is a pale imitation. It seems impossible that there can be two moral victors, and yet the logic I pointed out above clearly demonstrates that there are. Hence we are in a paradoxical era.
But Djokovic is a victim, people hate him because he is Serbian. His poor mum suffers a lot. So he is the pursued hero, another moral winner.

Even sir Android Murray has lately come up to be the moral winner with his highly technological hip.

Only Tsitsitpas and Bullsheet Russian are immoral winners. OK, in the case of Tsitsipas, he is an immoral loser.
 
Djokovic can retire today for all I care
Of course there are exceptions like yourself and some others.

Other than Rafa's unbelievable Roland Garros record, the only record that the world cares about is Federer's 20 slams, and Rafa is about to tie and beat that.
Don't count your chickens just yet and don't think that Fed's 8 Wimbledon trophies don't matter. Also, Federer looks far from done IMO.

And Rafa already has the Masters record.
And Rafa is closer to the US Open record than Djokovic is.
And Rafa is about to tie Djokovic/Federer with 5 year-end-#1s, but Sampras has the record anyway..

The weeks at #1 is the only thing Djokovic can get, but hardly anyone can even say how many weeks that is, its quite trivial.
Djokovic is bad for Rafa, because he's prevented Rafa from getting the Double Career Grand Slam.
If the only thing that matters is the slam count, then why mention all of this? Weeks at #1 is trivial, but a double CGS isn't? Rafa's lack of weeks is a reflection of how clay dependent he's been along with a lack of success in the fall season. There's no guarantee he finishes with the Masters record either.
 

Sport

G.O.A.T.
What’s most interesting is Federer winning 3 micky mouse events and a Masters is a tremendous year. Nadal winning 2 Majors and 2 Masters is also amazing. But Djokovic winning 2 Majors and 1 Masters is seen as somewhat of a failure of a season by many.

Just goes to show how the Big 3 are perceived, with Djokovic being seen by most as the clear dominant player.
No single person has said his season was a failure, stop creating a fake story. People just state that Nadal's season (so far) has been better as he has won an extra Masters 1000 and leads the race. It doesn't follow from that that Djokovic is perceived as the most dominant player from 2019, only that he has had the second best season on the tour.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
You should tell that to Zverev at Hopman Cup and Kyrgios/Isner at Laver Cup. They were devastated with the loss and had given it everything.
Because they were paid $250,000 to do so. I can't imagine anyone believing LC is real. it's just laughable. It's an EXO, just a very well managed and well scripted exo. The fact the results from LC are now part of the ATP is testament to Fed and Tony Godsick's pull. Ranking points for LC? Do please enlighten us on that one, since it's zero. Ditto for Hopman Cup.
 

tennisaddict

Bionic Poster
Because they were paid $250,000 to do so. I can't imagine anyone believing LC is real. it's just laughable. It's an EXO, just a very well managed and well scripted exo. The fact the results from LC are now part of the ATP is testament to Fed and Tony Godsick's pull. Ranking points for LC? Do please enlighten us on that one, since it's zero. Ditto for Hopman Cup.

LOok at the dirty look Kerber gives Zverev when he messed up the championship point Germany had over Switzerland

I look at the match intensity to judge . Points or no points does not matter to me one bit
 

KINGROGER

G.O.A.T.
LOok at the dirty look Kerber gives Zverev when he messed up the championship point Germany had over Switzerland

I look at the match intensity to judge . Points or no points does not matter to me one bit
Not to mention Fed has now been Laver cup MVP 3 years running compared to 0 for Djokodal.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Wait, if we’re counting Hopman Cup as a legitimate win does that mean Bernard Tomic has a win over Novak Djokovic?

And Jarmila Gajdosova, Radwanska and Eugenie Bouchard have wins over Serena Williams?

Fascinating.
 
Because they were paid $250,000 to do so. I can't imagine anyone believing LC is real. it's just laughable. It's an EXO, just a very well managed and well scripted exo. The fact the results from LC are now part of the ATP is testament to Fed and Tony Godsick's pull. Ranking points for LC? Do please enlighten us on that one, since it's zero. Ditto for Hopman Cup.

No, Hopman Cup is a serious mixed team competition (and had a nice vibe to boot).

LC is an EXO and a fricking joke, considering the multiple cringe-inducing "bro" moments, with fake coaching etc.

:cool:
 

Sudacafan

Bionic Poster
No, Hopman Cup is a serious mixed team competition (and had a nice vibe to boot).

LC is an EXO and a fricking joke, considering the multiple cringe-inducing "bro" moments, with fake coaching etc.

:cool:
Hopman and LC have both the same worthless value to be mentioned in a serious discussion, in my opinion.
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
Pretty cool that all 3 of them have 4 titles each. Looking forward to seeing if any of them will break the tie, or if Medvedev will be the one to surge ahead.
 
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