UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Can you refute my facts just once? I mean a real refutation, not this silly nonsense you always give us.
Is that so hard to do?
Oh right... it is next to impossible.
Federer, Nadal or Djokovic will win the 2019 US Open
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Is that so hard to do?
Oh right... it is next to impossible.
So injury Nadal's biggest opponent...that we can agree on.
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Sorry but I cannot find it. I am not obsessed by it, I am curious to know about this statement that Nadal was injured at USO 2015, which before you, no one else ever mentioned here. I mean if it was injury that prevented him from the beatdown that was coming his way in that quarter final, then it does change the narrative. Now, since you asked me for Federer's medical reports in the other thread, and then said you will go with facts which is what he said, I will do the same, if you cannot show me his medical reports, I will go with what Nadal himself said about 2015, that he was low on confidence not that he was injured.
Happy to end this discussion here.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Why about Rublev?
I have already refuted every opinion you have posted..yet to see you post a fact that is accurate.
I wasn't referring to Nadal's quote..i said Uncle Toni
I only post facts.
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Uncle Toni isn't Rafa. Rafa himself said he wasn't injured at any time in 2015, he was low on confidence. Sorry, but I will take the word of the man himself, unless you are calling Rafa a liar here.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
.Queens used to be the ONLY real test before Wimby. Still is a major test.
Even after Halle appeared Queens remained a pivotal event that drew in a field as strong as some weakly fielded M1000s.
Check the draws at Queens. Check out the Queens draw in 1994 for example.
It's because Queens is taken very seriously because aside from Halle there is no better test.
Capiche?
I repeat: players take whatever is the best test available for an upcoming slam, and since Queens isn't a Masters, they are happy to play it as a 500. It makes no difference. It's a tune-up.
Next you'll be telling me Queens/Wimbledon don't count because they aren't in Canada...
I am only posting what Uncle Toni said and he often is correct. You can believe what you want. Fact is Nadal is Canadian Open champion which guarantees him a good USO run, always does. And I only see Djokovic as even remotely capable of beating him and even that seems unlikely on the current form I am seeing.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
There is only one liar on this thread... He uses LOLs and makes up non-facts. He is a comedian.
stopped reading after you said Queens was the real test...a 250 event. cannot stop laughing sorry.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
It's completely relevant guy
Here we go..lose the argument then resort to personal insults. If a nadal fan did that they would be banned. Oh the irony.
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So you are basically calling Rafa a liar here. And of course I will believe what I want, I will believe what has come out Nadal's mouth himself, that 2015 his confidence was down, not that he was injured. Sorry if that goes against the narrative of Nadal is better than Djokovic at USO if he is not injured. Not buying it if Rafa himself is not selling it.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I am glad you finally realized that laughing at yourself is a much better way out than trying to play with irrelevant non-facts.
The men in white are coming though...
TheAssassin
Legend
If you did, you wouldn't always tell other people to google when they are asking you to back up what YOU said.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Who insulted you?
If you feel insulted then how come you can laugh at the same time? Makes no sense. Insulted people generally aren't in the mood to laugh.
But yeah, love the fact you boycotted my last post about Queens, that you stopped reading it. Facts scare many people...
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Is that what he does?
Now that is so bizarre. And weak.
I don't have any helpers, don't need them. I assumed other posters were self-reliant too. Seems not...
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UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Rafa's 2015 being a result of a confidence slump and not injuries is pretty much common knowledge. I can't believe we are even discussing it.
Pheasant
Legend
Here are the odds against winning the USO in Vegas.
Djokovic 5/4
Nadal 4/1
Federer 5/1
Zverev 20/1
Delpo 20/1
MuryGOAT 25/1
Cilic 25/1
Thiem 25/1
Tsitsipas 25/1
Nishikori 28/1
Kyrgios 28/1
Medvedev 33/1
Note: I never bet on low pay outs and never have. That's why I've never bet on Rafa to win the FO, or won't bet on Djokovic to win here. The pay out is not exciting in the least to me.
I bet on long shots, like 8/1 or better. Note: I don't even know if I'd bet on Federer at 8/1. I think 5/1 is terrible odds for him. He's more of a 15/1 to me.
I don't like any of the above. But if I had to choose, I'd go Thiem at 25/1.
Djokovic 5/4
Nadal 4/1
Federer 5/1
Zverev 20/1
Delpo 20/1
MuryGOAT 25/1
Cilic 25/1
Thiem 25/1
Tsitsipas 25/1
Nishikori 28/1
Kyrgios 28/1
Medvedev 33/1
Note: I never bet on low pay outs and never have. That's why I've never bet on Rafa to win the FO, or won't bet on Djokovic to win here. The pay out is not exciting in the least to me.
I bet on long shots, like 8/1 or better. Note: I don't even know if I'd bet on Federer at 8/1. I think 5/1 is terrible odds for him. He's more of a 15/1 to me.
I don't like any of the above. But if I had to choose, I'd go Thiem at 25/1.
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Yeah, me neither. Which is why I was interested in him giving us some facts which show that we have been mislead all this time, and mislead by Nadal himself of all people, who played a full season in 2015.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Everything you said is 100% true.
I am waiting in rapt anticipation how your post will be "refuted"...
Will anyone dare try to refute it?
This should be interesting.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
He's in the other 0,01% alongisde other 1000 players, don't mention it
Enceladus
Legend
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
So Las Vegas odds-makers are completely incompetent nitwits? I don't get it.
Giving an awful Murray the same odds as Thiem and others is literally like me betting on cycling or Martian NBA.
The fact they rate Rafa higher than Roger is also pretty troubling. Maybe it's that desert air, it's full of dust particles that invade the brain through the ears...
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Winning Canada doesn't guarantee anything lol. He struggled to win almost every match last year at UO before retiring in the SF.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Murray is the guy you decide to point out when Zverev is 4th? That's the biggest joke on the list. Also, how is Delpo going to win if he has already withdrawn?
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I figured I'd leave the absurdly high Zverev odds for someone else to comment. He has so many haters, I don't need to add myself to that lynch mob.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I don't actually hate the guy, but very disappointed with him. I once disliked him a long time ago.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Good luck finding any betting company that puts Federer before Rafa to win.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I don't mean you, and I don't mean literal hate.
Literal hate on TTW exists only amongst Big3 fans toward the rival players. That's real hate, in some cases.
But yeah, Zverev is disappointing now, but many early upstarts have a bad year after the early successes. He will be back, be sure of it.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Understandable since Fed hasn't won it in over a decade. I'd still favor Fed in a h2h clash though.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I don't understand that. Do these knuckleheads just go by rankings? Are they that thick?
Don't they realize RF won two HC slams recently, and Rafa won just one since 2014? Don't they know Rafa beat no Big4 players to win his USO17? Don't they know Rafa can't beat either Novak or RF on non-clay events since 2014?
As if a no3 player is totally inferior to a no2. Laughable.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I don't hate any of them. I have a strong dislike for Djokovic. Nadal is an OK guy in my book, but I disagree with a lot of things he does on court and some of the injury stuff. Hopefully, you're right about Zverev. Tennis needs someone to step up.
tennishabit
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TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe you guys should place a huge bet then if Fed gets in Rafas half and they play the semis
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
I find him absolutely hilarious. His quirks and OCD, he is just like me, except even more insane. To me, his weirdness and peculiar "warrior gestures" are what help make him unique in tennis. I much more prefer the weird than the mundane, like all those pros who seem like robots, they bore me.
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
It wouldn't even be a contest. RF in three sets. Because:Maybe you guys should place a huge bet then if Fed gets in Rafas half and they play the semis
1. Rafa fears RF.
2. Rafa is usually plagued with injury by the time he gets to USO QF/SF.
3. Hasn't beaten RF on non-clay since half a decade.
4. RF will be in top form.
5. RF figured out how to beat Rafa hence no longer fears him.
And they should play in the same half. 2 seed should always get 3 seed in semis. I hate that random crap, 1 vs 3 and 2 vs 4. That's rubbish.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Murray isn't even playing lol
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Rafa has given me and many others laughs over the years. He is a walking meme for sure.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
With who? You?Maybe you guys should place a huge bet then if Fed gets in Rafas half and they play the semis
I don't want to see you lose like that.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
I’m willing to do a bet with you. Are you in?
If I win you have to join the prediction league for 6 months and prove yourself and your skills.
If you win, what do you want me to do?
I also think it’s a 50% chance Federer will not even reach the semis. When I see the draw I might do a double bet on that too.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
No, with a betting company of course so you can make some cash.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
I left my gambling ways a while back. It's a bad habit.
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
I won a sum on Federer yesterday. Still a bit high on that, my betting fingers ache for more lol
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Most addictive thing in the world imo. Nothing feels worse than losing cash or better when winning it.
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