Federer Nalbandian Madrid 2007 finals stats

abmk

Bionic Poster
Nalbandian def. Federer 1-6,6-3,6-3

I know neither of these two are retired, but most of the stats are here, so I’m posting it here.

Federer had come into the finals not losing serve even once. Nalbandian hadn’t done much all year long, but in this event had defeated nadal and djokovic back to back coming into the finals.

First set was total dominance from an in-form fed vs a sub-par nalbandian. However nalbandian raised his level in the 2nd set and earned an early break and kept holding against a federer who played well apart from the game to get broken to take the set 6-3. The third set, federer grew sloppier and allowed a consistent and impressive nalbandian to wrest the initiative and take the match by winning it 6-3 in the 3rd . Good match, but not a high quality one. I'd say their match at paris , the very next master series was clearly the better one .

These are the stats:

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10 of the 24 UEs from nalby came in the first set and 15 of 35 UEs from federer came in the third set.

Federer had 2 return winners, both from the FH side. He had 1 passing shot winner from the FH side and 2 from the BH side ( including a sliced one in the 3rd set ). He had one lob winner of the FH wing.

Nalbandian had 2 return winners, one from each wing.He had no passing shot winners.

Almost at the end, the scorers had federer making 19 UEs from the FH wing, I had him at 16. He didn’t commit any more unforced errors of that wing after that
 
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thalivest

Banned
I am surprised there were so many more errors than winners. It seemed a better quality match than that.
 

The-Champ

Legend
I think both Federer and Nadal are lucky that Nalbandian's head is not in the right place. When his game is on, he certainly is capable of beating both at their best.
 

thalivest

Banned
I think both Federer and Nadal are lucky that Nalbandian's head is not in the right place. When his game is on, he certainly is capable of beating both at their best.

Federer at his best Nalbandian would only have a chance indoors and maybe clay. Nadal at his best Nalandian would have a chance indoors or on an outdoor hard court, and on indoors would win almost for sure. On grass though Nalbandian even at his best would be destroyed by Federer or Nadal at their best, on an outdoor hard court a prime Federer is a bit too much for even Nalbandian's best, and on clay Nadal is far too good.
 

krosero

Legend
Published stats

Philadelphia Inquirer:

Top-ranked Roger Federer made 38 unforced errors yesterday in losing to David Nalbandian, 1-6, 6-3, 6-3, in the Madrid Masters final in Spain.

The 25th-ranked Argentine moved Federer around the court with a variety of ground strokes. The title was Nalbandian's first since he won the Estoril Open in May 2006.

Nalbandian, who beat No. 2 Rafael Nadal and No. 3 Novak Djokovic to reach the final, broke Federer three times and became the second player this year to beat the top three players en route to winning a title. Djokovic also did it this season.​
 

krosero

Legend
ABMK, with your UE counts I've got Nalbandian and Federer each with an Aggressive Margin of 12.18%.

I've been looking for UE counts for Nalbandian to see what his highest AM might have been.

I also have these, from UE counts in the press.

2003 USO
Nalbandian - 16.4%
Federer - 9.8%

2005 USO
Federer - 29.5%
Nalbandian - 7.4%

2004 AO
Federer - 16.4%
Nalbandian - 13.9%

2011 Wimby
Federer - 40.8%
Nalbandian - 28.2%

Do you know the stats for their match at 2003 AO?

Would love to Nalbandian's UE count for their Masters Cup final. I do know Federer was credited with 72 ue.
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
krosero,

don't have the stats for the AO 2003 encounter.

same for the TMC 2005 encounter ( searched quite a bit and couldn't find, which is a shocker as that was an amazing see-saw thriller )

as far as nalby's highest AM goes, his Davis Cup match vs hewitt on grass in 2005 would be up there, I'm guessing ...

apart from

archive.org
google news
tennis.matchstat.com
stats from the end of the match ( if you have the full match that is )
noting down the stats for the whole match

what else do you use to get these stats ?
 

krosero

Legend
krosero,

don't have the stats for the AO 2003 encounter.

same for the TMC 2005 encounter ( searched quite a bit and couldn't find, which is a shocker as that was an amazing see-saw thriller )

as far as nalby's highest AM goes, his Davis Cup match vs hewitt on grass in 2005 would be up there, I'm guessing ...

apart from

archive.org
google news
tennis.matchstat.com
stats from the end of the match ( if you have the full match that is )
noting down the stats for the whole match

what else do you use to get these stats ?
That's all I use too. Unfortunately I can't pull up anything for '03 AO at webarchive.

Anyway here's a press report on that match.

Nalbandian played the steadier tennis, with the streaky Federer committing 60 unforced errors, including 25 in the first set alone when he also recorded five double faults.

Nalbandian also was far better performed on his second serve, where he enjoyed a 56 per cent winning strike-rate versus just 37 per cent for the Swiss.

It was the second straight year Federer had lost a five-setter in the fourth round of the Open.

Nalbandian was the first Argentinian player to make the quarter-finals of the Open since the great Guillermo Vilas in 1980.

"Guillermo was a very, very good player and after that we had many good players but they never played good here - I'm very happy to be in the quarter-finals" Nalbandian said.​
 
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