TennisCanada1
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It's been one week with no tennis and I'm already going mad. MAD.
Hey rogue! I was reading through and I found your comment interesting. I was dealing with Te and a little GE for 3 months, after it pretty much healed up I started playing and gut rotator cuff tendinintis. After reading your post I'm wondering if my shoulder could have caused both. I could hit groundstrokes as hard as I wanted as long as I had a motrin or two, but serving was excruciating. I am pretty sure my shoulder issue was caused by the repetitive movement of tennis causing my shoulders to roll forward due to imbalance.Or you might consider that if groundstrokes don't affect the elbow but overhead serving does, there might be some connection to your elbow from your shoulder region.
Like pulling a rope, you can pull from one end but feel it at the other end. You can treat the end where you feel it all you want, but until you release the pull from the other end, you'll never get satisfactory results.
Something to think about.
It's been 10 days of no tennis. I have lost about 40% sensation in my two little fingers on two of those 10 days. It feels like it's not even getting better and I haven't picked up a racquet. I get it takes time but it feels the exact same as 10 days ago, if not worse. I did my MRI yesterday, so I'm just waiting for the report..
try out of the box therapies. Maybe acupunture to stimulate blood flow to the area or cryotherapy to reduce inflammation. also supplementing with cissus/glucosamine or "Elbow Revive", using a "Flex Bar", and "Voodoo floss". good old self applied massage is great for loosening up tthe muscles in the forearms as well.
Yea its both little fingers. Yea my dr. is going to give me the findings from the report. He thought it was my ulnar nerve as well.
Hey rogue! I was reading through and I found your comment interesting. I was dealing with Te and a little GE for 3 months, after it pretty much healed up I started playing and gut rotator cuff tendinintis. After reading your post I'm wondering if my shoulder could have caused both. I could hit groundstrokes as hard as I wanted as long as I had a motrin or two, but serving was excruciating. I am pretty sure my shoulder issue was caused by the repetitive movement of tennis causing my shoulders to roll forward due to imbalance.
I would think that the ulna nerve affects one little finger. There are probably right and left ulna nerves at a certain vertebra of the neck.
I don't know what affects 2 little fingers, make sure the Dr understands that your little finger symptoms were bilateral.
My son used to get finger numbness, maybe in both hands (pain too?) after some weeks after starting a new workout at the gym. He did some shoulder conditioning exercises to better align his scapulas and it went away. I guess that some muscle got bigger or some exercise irritated or pinched certain nerves. I have never has a pinched nerve.
There must be several causes. I guess your Dr is a specialist?
If things start to go chronic despite you treating the symptomatic area, you have to look elsewhere for potential "kinks in the chain" so to speak.
People understand the kinetic chain analogy for tennis, on how getting power to hit the ball starts from the ground up.....it's the same thing for injuries.
I've treated people's hips to address and correct their symptomatic elbows.....everything is all connected.
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Results: ulnar nerve swelling..
both 4th and 5th digits on my right hand.
Also do you think the poly will make a difference in this case? I hate the natural gut so far.
I'm a 6.0 at least and I can definitely notice the difference in playability with a poly. I break poly after 1-2 hours on average depending on the poly. If I put the gut in the crosses though, instead of the mains, would that maybe help with the issue of too much power?
UPDATE: Took my MRI to an orthopaedic surgeon (elbow specialist) this morning.
It turns out, it's not golfer's elbow and its not a nerve issue either. This makes sense because I've always had a strong forearm and I wasn't feeling it exactly where golfer's elbow is, but rather more in the centre than on the side.
I have something called lateralis impingement, which is where the bicep and forearm don't attach properly. It's so rare/new that further consulting has to be done between different doctors, and I might be the first in my city to have the procedure.
Great :\
I would get a second opinion before letting doctors experiment on you.
To correct myself, it's "Lacertus Fibrosis Syndrome"
To correct myself, it's "Lacertus Fibrosis Syndrome"
The first link you posted is exactly what I have.
I was told that surgery recovery time is 4-6 weeks.
How would I go about that?
I would go to a massage therapist and ask for soft tissue work of the lacertus?
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http://www.tenniselleboog.nl/fig20.jpg
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Chastennis any ideas?
I recognize GE pain now and if I got a TE injury would know it also. GE is distinct. Mine is small, sharp, painful on stressing. It is very close to where the illustrations show that it should be. GE may not show the same symptoms for everybody. There may be several other injuries that fit this description.
There is an issue where a nerve goes through that area of the arm and is pinched under some forearm muscle, the pronator, I believe. The syndrome is common and has a name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronator_teres_syndrome
Nerve pinches can cause pain and numbness farther away from the brain than the pinch. Numbness is clear. I don't know what nerve pain feels like. Other symptoms? Issues may be away from the pinched nerve and vary. Doctors may know of a 100 possible injuries where I have heard of a few of the more common ones. I can't recall the nerve injuries that well.
Thanks for the reply.
Yes, I was told it's pronator syndrome. Lacertus Fibrosus syndrome is basically the same thing as pronator syndrome. Pronator syndrome is supposed to be entrapment of the median nerve but I don't feel median nerve symptoms. Ocassionally, my two little fingers get numb, which is the ulnar nerve, but both surgeons told me that it is irrelivant from my issue. The only real symptom I have that they believe to pertain to my issue is that I feel pain in the exact spot in the photo when I serve, and the more I serve, the worst it gets. I haven't played since January 11th and I don't plan on playing since March 2nd, because the second surgeon doesn't want to conclude that it is pronator syndrome because it's not something that you can confirm on an MRI, but she doesn't know what it is so she wants me to take a close to 2 month rest from tennis to see if it may be some type of muscle or ligament injury that could heal. I have no idea if it's helping, being halfway through my rest period now, because when I don't serve it's fine but usually when I serve it hurts, so I will see on march 2nd. But in the grand scheme of things, I want resolution and I don't know what to do because I have 2 surgeons with conflicting views and I want to be able to play tennis again.
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Yes, I was told it's pronator syndrome. Lacertus Fibrosus syndrome is basically the same thing as pronator syndrome. Pronator syndrome is supposed to be entrapment of the median nerve but I don't feel median nerve symptoms. Ocassionally, my two little fingers get numb, which is the ulnar nerve, but both surgeons told me that it is irrelivant from my issue. The only real symptom I have that they believe to pertain to my issue is that I feel pain in the exact spot in the photo when I serve, and the more I serve, the worst it gets. .............................because the second surgeon doesn't want to conclude that it is pronator syndrome because it's not something that you can confirm on an MRI, but she doesn't know what it is so she wants me to take a close to 2 month rest from tennis to see if it may be some type of muscle or ligament injury that could heal. .................... I don't know what to do because I have 2 surgeons with conflicting views ..........................................