Has Nadal got the game to win a hardcourt slam?

Clay lover

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In my opinion, Fed and Nadal are pretty close on clay and grass. Nadal is better than Fed on clay in a similar margin to Fed is better than Nadal on grass. But the difference lies in hardcourts.

Nadal has won some hardcourt titles, but he has never gotten into a final of a hardcourt slam, let alone winning one. Which leaves me with a question: "has he ever beaten a top ten player in a hardcourt slam?" 3 setters are enormously different from 2 setters.

His game just don't shine on hardcourts. The topspin shots does not skid in Wimbledon or bounce ridiculously high in the FO. It just stays up within spanking height on hardcourts especially when the ball is short. The athleticism was useful but it did do damage to his body. It doesn't help when he is defensive most of the time, too, allowing good hc players to move him around and further break his game apart.

Nadal has got his chances when people were more unfamiliar to his game, but the furthest he reached was the 4r (not counting the lucky draw this year). Now, while his figured out game could still win on clay or MAYBE grass since it is too dominating, it would not do him any good on hardcourts.

Unless he changes his game to that of a more agressive and flathitting one, or pulls a Hewitt in the void of great hardcourt players, I don't see him winning a hardcourt slam in a billion years. But both I regard as highly unlikely.
 

Fedexeon

Hall of Fame
It's tough to see him winning a Grand Slam... He has Federer, Djokovic and some hard hitters to deal with.
 
I think Nadal will win a hardcourt grand slam..he is still very young and will keep improving his game..I hope he can hold onto his French Open title..I have a feeling he isnt going to win it this year..Nadal is amazing though...
 

edberg505

Legend
In my opinion, Fed and Nadal are pretty close on clay and grass. Nadal is better than Fed on clay in a similar margin to Fed is better than Nadal on grass. But the difference lies in hardcourts.

Nadal has won some hardcourt titles, but he has never gotten into a final of a hardcourt slam, let alone winning one. Which leaves me with a question: "has he ever beaten a top ten player in a hardcourt slam?" 3 setters are enormously different from 2 setters.

His game just don't shine on hardcourts. The topspin shots does not skid in Wimbledon or bounce ridiculously high in the FO. It just stays up within spanking height on hardcourts especially when the ball is short. The athleticism was useful but it did do damage to his body. It doesn't help when he is defensive most of the time, too, allowing good hc players to move him around and further break his game apart.

Nadal has got his chances when people were more unfamiliar to his game, but the furthest he reached was the 4r (not counting the lucky draw this year). Now, while his figured out game could still win on clay or MAYBE grass since it is too dominating, it would not do him any good on hardcourts.

Unless he changes his game to that of a more agressive and flathitting one, or pulls a Hewitt in the void of great hardcourt players, I don't see him winning a hardcourt slam in a billion years. But both I regard as highly unlikely.

Did you see the 2001 US Open final?
 
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edberg505

Legend
I think Nadal will win a hardcourt grand slam..he is still very young and will keep improving his game..I hope he can hold onto his French Open title..I have a feeling he isnt going to win it this year..Nadal is amazing though...

Just exactly who do you see beating him?
 

tricky

Hall of Fame
I think Nadal's closer than what people give him credit for. Making QF and SFs every year is no joke.

Nadal has got maybe the best inside-out FH in the game (this shot is his leverage against Federer at Wimbledon, where now the bounce is into Nadal's wheelhouse), and he's gotten better at using it on the HC surfaces, to open up the court. In a way, he executes the Roddick strategy better than Roddick, trying to force players wide and then cut off their passing shots. It's just that doesn't work well against top-10 players.

Where Nadal can improve a lot is in his 2H BH, especially at the DTL shot. He's so good at creating angles with his CC 2H BH shots, but he also needs to be able to hit flat, deep shots from that wing, where his own FH does not really provide this. This is what Joker does really well, and it helped him push Federer back.

Of course, Nadal can improve his serve further to get cheap point, and he can improve his returning skills and put more pressure on the server.
 

daddy

Legend
Just exactly who do you see beating him?

On the topic - if he stays healthy and improve few things, try to TRAIN like hard court player, flatten the serve, his less top spin and improve volleying even more, he has a fair chance.

Of the topic - who da hell is going to beat nadal on clay ? Other then fed if he pulls it together once every year if even that much.
 

PROTENNIS63

Hall of Fame
Nadal does have the game to win a hard court slam. The questions is, can he do it? He needs a good draw which he got at this years Aus Open. He went all the way to the semis and then Tsonga stopped him. Nadal did have a dream draw by not playing a top 20 player until the finals (if he would have won). So Rafa needs to keep working and he might win one hard court slam but like I said it will be a combination of nice draw, luck, and Rafa playing out of his mind.
 

tennismadman

New User
nadal is still only 21...he has time to learn...he wants to learn...he has the right mentality as well...i dont think he has the right style to win a hardcourt title....but his natural ability on a tennis court makes him a contender at any tounramnet he plays
 

edberg505

Legend
On the topic - if he stays healthy and improve few things, try to TRAIN like hard court player, flatten the serve, his less top spin and improve volleying even more, he has a fair chance.

Of the topic - who da hell is going to beat nadal on clay ? Other then fed if he pulls it together once every year if even that much.

I was refering to clay and the French. Because the above poster said that he had a feeling that Nadal wouldn't win the French this year.
 

daddy

Legend
I was refering to clay and the French. Because the above poster said that he had a feeling that Nadal wouldn't win the French this year.

yes yes I know. I said on hard courts he needs to hire other coach that uncle and take a different aproach cause the tallent is there. On clay - who da hell is going to beat him, cmon, he is unbelievable, if healthy that is. :)
 
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