Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Federer will not win a Slam on clay

Mungo73

Mungo73

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Nadal is 22 and improving on every surface. this year he made his best results in the AO and the USO (semifinals), winner in Toronto and Beijing, runner up in Miami...next step is to win a hardcourt Slam!!!
Fed cant beat Nadal at RG and he is already 27. Other players like Djokovic, Andreev, Schwank and Bellucci will get better and Federer will not have the chance to play the final. I feel Federer has wasted his chances to win in Paris but Nadal is much younger and keeps improving on every surface. I am calling it now. Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Fed will not win a Slam on clay. Say what you want. Time will prove me right!
 
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Zeppy

Rookie
Well, we won't know until it happens. I mean, Nadal has knee problems as it is, so we don't know if his knees can handle it. And there's up and coming players that are pretty good on hard courts.

Federer, I don't know. He has consistently made FO finals a few times, but Nadal has been the one stopping him.
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

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Nadal had the best run of his life and he still couldn't make the USO final, even when he didn't play any seeded players. I can't see him winning a USO, maybe an Aussie. I don't know about Fed winning the French, I know he can't beat a healthy Nadal there.
 
stormholloway

stormholloway

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Mungo73 said:
Nadal is 22 and improving on every surface. This year he made his best results in the AO and the USO (semifinals), winner in Toronto and Beijing, runner up in Miami...next step is to win a hardcourt Slam.
Federer can´t beat Nadal in Roland Garros and he is already 27. Other players like Djokovic, Andreev, Schwank and Bellucci will get better and Federer may not have the chance to play the final. I feel Federer has wasted his chances to win in Paris but Nadal is much younger and keeps improving on every surface. I am calling it now. Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Federer will not win a Slam on clay. Say what you want. Time will prove me right!
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Does all of this make you feel better about yourself? Because it shouldn't.
 
VikingSamurai

VikingSamurai

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Mungo73 said:
Nadal is 22 and improving on every surface. This year he made his best results in the AO and the USO (semifinals), winner in Toronto and Beijing, runner up in Miami...next step is to win a hardcourt Slam.
Federer can´t beat Nadal in Roland Garros and he is already 27. Other players like Djokovic, Andreev, Schwank and Bellucci will get better and Federer may not have the chance to play the final. I feel Federer has wasted his chances to win in Paris but Nadal is much younger and keeps improving on every surface. I am calling it now. Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Federer will not win a Slam on clay. Say what you want. Time will prove me right!
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Are you Nadal_Freak using a different user name?

Nadal Freak has been getting a hard time of late, so he has started toning down his posts.. But this new guy comes along, and sounds exactly the same... hummmmm
 
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urban

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I thought and wrote beforehand, that the USO was the most open major in years, due to the overcrowded schedule. But it showed, that the contenders of the "old" guard, like Roddick or Davydenko are simply not able, to use the exhaustion factor, caused by the Olympics. The top three are way ahead, although Nadal, Djoker and even Fed were not playing their best. Federer has shown his fighting heart here, and has secured the Nr.2 spot for the year. His fifth straight USO is a modern day record, only Tilden did more. He seems on his way to the 14 majors record, but i doubt, that he will win more than 15-16 overall. The challenge to the big three will come from younger people like Murray, Cilic, Gulbis, Del Potro, Andreev. I think they will fill the top ten in next year, with Roddick, Davydenko or Ferrer fading away.
 
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luckyboy1300

Hall of Fame
chris_in_japan said:
Are you Nadal_Freak using a different user name?

Nadal Freak has been getting a hard time of late, so he has started toning down his posts.. But this new guy comes along, and sounds exactly the same... hummmmm
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he isn't exactly new here. i kept remembering all those official fed fan excuses thread he makes everytime fed loses. see his post count. that's just what he's been doing. and i don't know what brings him back here after a big fed win.

once a troll
always a troll
 
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joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Mungo73 said:
Nadal is 22 and improving on every surface. This year he made his best results in the AO and the USO (semifinals), winner in Toronto and Beijing, runner up in Miami...next step is to win a hardcourt Slam.
Federer can´t beat Nadal in Roland Garros and he is already 27. Other players like Djokovic, Andreev, Schwank and Bellucci will get better and Federer may not have the chance to play the final. I feel Federer has wasted his chances to win in Paris but Nadal is much younger and keeps improving on every surface. I am calling it now. Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Federer will not win a Slam on clay. Say what you want. Time will prove me right!
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You might be right, So? What's your point exactly? Nadal's much younger and not going to face the best player on hardcourts forever, while Federer is always going to face the best player in the world on clay. This is such a stupid statement, cause either your prediction comes true and it's really nothing spectacular, or it ends up false and yiou look really dumb.

You just need to do something because Federer won US Open? Nadal had a great year, enjoy it.. he's number 1 now, get used to it and learn to respect a player like Federer. You don't really have to cry everytime Fed's going to win a Slam.
 
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janipyt05

Professional
they will both win on clay and hard, difference is Rafa can win on hard while Federer is still playing while i think Rafa needs to not be at the French Open for Federer to win it.
 
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janipyt05

Professional
Mungo73 said:
Nadal is 22 and improving on every surface. This year he made his best results in the AO and the USO (semifinals), winner in Toronto and Beijing, runner up in Miami...next step is to win a hardcourt Slam.
Federer can´t beat Nadal in Roland Garros and he is already 27. Other players like Djokovic, Andreev, Schwank and Bellucci will get better and Federer may not have the chance to play the final. I feel Federer has wasted his chances to win in Paris but Nadal is much younger and keeps improving on every surface. I am calling it now. Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Federer will not win a Slam on clay. Say what you want. Time will prove me right!
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I agree with you only i don't think Federer has wasted his chances for the past 3 years his played Nadal and lost, what chances did he have, his never taken Rafa to 5 sets, could never sustain his tactic for the whole match and is steadily getting worse at figuring out the right tactic.
 
anointedone

anointedone

Banned
urban said:
I thought and wrote beforehand, that the USO was the most open major in years, due to the overcrowded schedule. But it showed, that the contenders of the "old" guard, like Roddick or Davydenko are simply not able, to use the exhaustion factor, caused by the Olympics. The top three are way ahead, although Nadal, Djoker and even Fed were not playing their best. Federer has shown his fighting heart here, and has secured the Nr.2 spot for the year. His fifth straight USO is a modern day record, only Tilden did more. He seems on his way to the 14 majors record, but i doubt, that he will win more than 15-16 overall. The challenge to the big three will come from younger people like Murray, Cilic, Gulbis, Del Potro, Andreev. I think they will fill the top ten in next year, with Roddick, Davydenko or Ferrer fading away.
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I am close to agreement on most of that. I think Federer will stay at or near the very top for several more years, but he could well be the only guy not born in the 1986-1989 group that is even able to in the top 10. Roddick will fight hard for it but probably eventually the superior talent level of the upcoming younger field will be too much for him to stay in there, Davydenko and Ferrer are late blooming grinders who are on the verge of burnout and battle fatigue already.

Not sure so much on Andreev though, who isnt all that young (a year younger then Roddick), and seems like a typical hot and cold unpredictable Russian type who will continue to mildy underachieve.
 
Mungo73

Mungo73

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chris_in_japan said:
Are you Nadal_Freak using a different user name?

Nadal Freak has been getting a hard time of late, so he has started toning down his posts.. But this new guy comes along, and sounds exactly the same... hummmmm
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Nadal is mere potatoes compared to Mungo. Haw haw! :twisted:
 
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FloridaAG

Hall of Fame
Well considering there are 2 hard court slams and only 1 clay court slam, the odds are stacked in his favor already ignoring any other variables
 
Polaris

Polaris

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Mungo73 said:
Nadal is 22 and improving on every surface. This year he made his best results in the AO and the USO (semifinals), winner in Toronto and Beijing, runner up in Miami...next step is to win a hardcourt Slam.
Federer can´t beat Nadal in Roland Garros and he is already 27. Other players like Djokovic, Andreev, Schwank and Bellucci will get better and Federer may not have the chance to play the final. I feel Federer has wasted his chances to win in Paris but Nadal is much younger and keeps improving on every surface. I am calling it now. Nadal will win a Slam on hardcourts and Federer will not win a Slam on clay. Say what you want. Time will prove me right!
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Why doesn't someone ban this Haw Haw-ing ass which obviously opened an account to show of its trolling skills ?
 
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Cenc

Hall of Fame
it doesnt matter who wins wheresampras never reached FO finals and he is the best player ever imofederer never won french he is 2ndagassi won all, he is 3rdmy opinion
 
Conquistador

Conquistador

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Cenc said:
it doesnt matter who wins wheresampras never reached FO finals and he is the best player ever imofederer never won french he is 2ndagassi won all, he is 3rdmy opinion
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Really, I would have to say that Roger making the French Open finals would be a shoe in for a spot over Pete. Pete consequently wouldnt be in the position he is in without his 7 wimbledons--at least you can say that Roger had a chance to win them all--to me the all time greatest player should win on every surface
 
matchmaker

matchmaker

Hall of Fame
Obviously this is a fanboy thread, but who knows, there might be some truth in it.

OTOneH side Federer has done a lot better on clay than Nadal on HC. 3 RG finals in a row is not too bad I'd say.

OTOtherH scores have been more and more lopsided (2006 was actually his best chance) so one could come to believe it is never going to happen as long as Nadal stays healthy.

OTOneH side, Nadal could never get past the semis in HC slams.

OTOtherH, there are 2 per year, USO and AO, so statistically he has many more opportunities to do so than Federer.

I feel at one point in time the AO might lend itself for a good Nadal run. After all, he is only 22, an age at which Federer had never even reached the RG final.
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

Legend
matchmaker said:
After all, he is only 22, an age at which Federer had never even reached the RG final.
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22 going on 30. His style does not lend itself to longevity. Just look at how he was wilting by the end of the USO. Just look at how he has wilted at every USO. Sure he just had his best result, but to me that means he is hitting his peak. How can you expect him to play better than he did this year. IMO there is no way he will be playing at this level when he is Federer's age. You never know though, we'll just have to see.
 
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BlahDow

Rookie
I dunno...Murray is getting better...And Djokovic and Federer are still there -_-...I doubt he'll get a hard court slam...as for Federer...ya...he's not getting an FO until Nadal injures himself during the tournament.
 
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Murray_Maniac

Banned
You shouldve said Fed will not win the slam on clay. But I see it very likely that Nadal will win a slam on hc during his career, but he'll have to watch out for those more suited to hc.
 
hyperwarrior

hyperwarrior

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Conquistador

Conquistador

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Murray_Maniac said:
You shouldve said Fed will not win the slam on clay. But I see it very likely that Nadal will win a slam on hc during his career, but he'll have to watch out for those more suited to hc.
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Nadal may win one..He has heavy competition on the HC including djokovic,del potro,and murray among others
 
tennis-hero

tennis-hero

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Rafa had his best year and couldn't get to the final of either HC slam

i mean its a bit early to say he will definitely win a slam, and Roger at hard court slam finals has never lost

take away clay and roger is what....... only one final loss on grass, all wins at hard court finals, 5 time consecutive US winner

Roger has never, i repeat, never lost a hardcourt slam final

Rafa has never made a hardcourt slam final
 
S H O W S T O P P E R !

S H O W S T O P P E R !

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Nadal has a chance at the USO, but Djokovic is better right now. And of course Fed's not gonna win a clay Slam, there's only one and that is given to Nadal on default.
 
TheTruth

TheTruth

G.O.A.T.
Nothing can be written off on anybody at aged 22. Especially when you would be hard pressed to find (m)any ATP players with five grand slams at his age. That's just silly!
 
Nadal_Freak

Nadal_Freak

Banned
TheTruth said:
Nothing can be written off on anybody at aged 22. Especially when you would be hard pressed to find (m)any ATP players with five grand slams at his age. That's just silly!
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Agreed. Nadal has already proven himself that he can win hardcourt tournaments. He just has to get hot at the right time.
 
norbac

norbac

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Nadal_Freak said:
Agreed. Nadal has already proven himself that he can win hardcourt tournaments. He just has to get hot at the right time.
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Wasn't he hot like all summer long and he still couldn't win the USO? I still think he may win a HC Slam though, someday.
 
Nadal_Freak

Nadal_Freak

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norbac said:
Wasn't he hot like all summer long and he still couldn't win the USO? I still think he may win a HC Slam though, someday.
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He was not hot at the US Open. He played his worst tennis of the summer at the US Open. I think he needed more rest.
 
norbac

norbac

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Nadal_Freak said:
He was not hot at the US Open. He played his worst tennis of the summer at the US Open. I think he needed more rest.
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Yeah, but he had the easiest draw ever, it was his chance in my opinion, not his last chance though, but he had a chance.
 
tennis-hero

tennis-hero

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Rafa had a pretty easy draw at the US

he destroyed Murray on Grass

but Murray is smart, he didn't just beat Rafa, he mentally destroyed him

Murray is going to win a HC slam for sure, one day

Rafa, a great player, has to overcome Djokovic, Murray and Roger, who are all better on hard courts- it will not be easy... if Rafa does it, it will really cement his place in history
 
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Michael Bluth

Semi-Pro
Yeah, Nadal had a pretty weak draw until Murray.
On hardcourts it will be very tough as has been said over and over. Federer, Djokovic, Murray, Del Potro, with Tsonga potentially in the mix if he's healthy enough, Cilic who I think is headed for the top 10 next year, Nishikori, and Gulbis who if he ever pulls his head out of his ass will be a top contender on hard.

For Federer to win the French he'll need a Nadal injury but Agassi won it at 29 and Gomez at 30 so it's not out of the question.
 
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msc886

Professional
Hard to say. Nadal has multiple threats on hardcourt so he has lots of barriers. Federer has Nadal who will pretty much win all the time against federer on clay. Either way it wil be pretty hard for both.
 
edmondsm

edmondsm

Legend
Nadal_Freak said:
He was not hot at the US Open. He played his worst tennis of the summer at the US Open. I think he needed more rest.
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Well if that is true then he should be smarter about his schedule. Does he think that he is going to be around forever? In his effort to get a gold medal and #1 ranking he may have missed his best oppurtunity to get what really mattered, a USO title.
 
jackson vile

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
Roger can 100% win the FO, but only if Nadal is not on the other side of the court.

So basicly the Fed fans are hoping either
#1 Nadal has injury and Roger wins with out facing Nadal
#2 Gods hand comes into play and Roger Magically wins and end world hunger
 
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ThugNasty

Guest
jackson vile said:
Roger can 100% win the FO, but only if Nadal is not on the other side of the court.

So basicly the Fed fans are hoping either
#1 Nadal has injury and Roger wins with out facing Nadal
#2 Gods hand comes into play and Roger Magically wins and end world hunger
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or we can hope that roger can give his 100 percent best in the tennis match and i can assure you if roger plays 100 percent, he CAN win even against nadal.
 
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MEAC_ALLAMERICAN

Legend
tennis-hero said:
Rafa had a pretty easy draw at the US

he destroyed Murray on Grass

but Murray is smart, he didn't just beat Rafa, he mentally destroyed him

Murray is going to win a HC slam for sure, one day

Rafa, a great player, has to overcome Djokovic, Murray and Roger, who are all better on hard courts- it will not be easy... if Rafa does it, it will really cement his place in history
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Cement his place in history on this board? :confused:
 
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