Head Gravity

[blablavla]

I actually like the rounder shape of the Pro beam and the TK82S pallet as well.
The PT with its hefty SW (at least on the one I had) paired with tight pattern and firm string setup demands full throttle all the time for me at least.
And even when I was on, and could hit the sweet zone pretty consistently, esp on the FH, the pace came with low trajectory and lack of depth.

my PT came in a tad less SW than the GPro, so it feels a bit easier to swing.
my challenge is to hit the sweet spot of the PR often enough.

and yes, the lower trajectory is what I absolutely like about the PT, as in my case, it makes it easier to flatten out the ball, whereas with GTour I was rather generating too spinny balls in competitive environment, that lacked enough plow.

as I received the GPro just recently, don't have enough data on how it would behave in competitive environment.
data from training is discarded for now, as with GTour in training mode I had enough plow , just forgot to bring it with me to competitive matches
so will need to wait till I play some actual matches with GPro to see how I can swing it, and whether I can hit through opponents or not really.

 

[blablavla]

I have tried several racquets over the last summer and the Gravity line crossed my path twice.

A little background - I have not played tennis for a couple of years and re-started this June. I always favored a powerful but versatile tennis.
Fast points but not Goran Ivanisevic if you know what i mean
Now, being in my mid 40s, I had to reinvent my play and also my gear.

I started off with the Wilson Blade 100L but came to a stop after a couple of weeks due to its low weight. So, after that I tried several racquets including the Gravity Pro and the Gravity Tour.

When I first started playing with the Pro I really liked it but the weight took its toll - fast. Damn, this one is heavy.... It wore me out and at the net I lost my timing due to its weight.
So, I switched towards the Tour - at the beginning I was not a big fan. I was missing the pop and speed - BUT....things got better hour after hour. We moved towards each other and I found out that the TOUR has some really nice characteristics that made my playing style a little bit more versatile. First of all, the backhand slice is really nice with this one. Secondly, the straight serve is a beast - kick/Slice not as much but straight... wow. Thirdly, awesome pocketing, with this one you don't need to hammer your opponent 24/7. Point & shoot and let your opponent run.

Also very nice is the large sweet spot, especially on returns. A very forgiving and nice thing compared to the Blade (e.g.). Whenever i didn't really hit it spot on, it was jarring a little bit. The GT is nicer to your arm.

I still miss the heavy shots (haven't figured out how to get them back yet) and sometimes it freaks me out that I have to be more patient in my game. But to me it is definitely a keeper and I will try a couple of different strings to see if I can adjust a little bit more towards my style. Currently I got a Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution with 25/25 but will try lowering it to 23 or maybe even 22 in the future.

The Tour will probably not become my most powerful racquet but it is very enjoyable and broadens my style.

try Pro Tour 2.0 if you have the chance.
for BH slice, it's a beast.
flat serves, it's a beast.

the only draw back when compared to Gravity is a smaller sweet spot.
but if you can hit it, you'll get the pop.

 

[mscream]

Gravity Tour > Pro! More power, a lot better maneuverability, heavy ball hitting and serving bombs. Honestly i can’t find a reason to prefer pro.... it’s so demanding that becomes pointless to me. You only get a little more solidness and plush feel. Gravity tour is the real blade 16x19 alternative on heads line of racquets while prestige 360+ mp is the 18x20 competitor. Seriously i am very curious why it’s all about gravity pro on Talk Tennis and not about tour....

I love the Tour. It's my primary stick, and agree with your description.
My fascination with the Pro is the feel. Having only come back to tennis this past year after 20+ years away from the game, it's the one racquet that just stuck in my brain. But yes, the weight is challenging.

The GPro definitely has better feel no doubt, however the Tour is a very reasonable trade-off IMO to sacrifice a bit of feel for a lighter, more maneuvreable package. Maybe not a bad idea to have both in the bag.

 

[ajspurs]

Anyone know what racquets hit similar to the Gravity Pro? I'm demoing a range and have tried the Babolat Pure Strike 98 16x19, Yonex Ezone 98. Yonex Vcore Pro 98 HD, Babolat Pure Aero, Dunlop CX200, Wilson Clash 98 and the Head Graphene 360 Speed Pro but the Gravity Pro just feels the most comfortable to hit with, has such nice feel to it. I love the feeling of precision with the Vcore Pro 98 HD but it doesn't have the same comfortable feel, plus I think I like the larger head of the Gravity and the shape of it, the sweet spot feels great.

I think I will make the jump to the Gravity Pro, maybe I should give the tour a go also.

 

[Power Player]

Was the person who told you that, also the same one who told you that sales of the Gravity racquets tanked? In my opinion, I wouldn't put much stock in his/her opinion; but of course my opinion is worth to you exactly what you paid for it, which is to say nothing.

Weirdly, like some other TTW member who is obsessed with H22 racquets, you both seem to like hanging out on HEAD threads discussing garbage. Have at it.

He's a notorius troll account here.

Gravity Tour > Pro! More power, a lot better maneuverability, heavy ball hitting and serving bombs. Honestly i can’t find a reason to prefer pro.... it’s so demanding that becomes pointless to me. You only get a little more solidness and plush feel. Gravity tour is the real blade 16x19 alternative on heads line of racquets while prestige 360+ mp is the 18x20 competitor. Seriously i am very curious why it’s all about gravity pro on Talk Tennis and not about tour....

TT is almost always about the heaviest version of a frame. Even though the majority of posters can't generate high enough racquet speed with them, they still use them anyway.

why? I think its just because heavier frames feel better and add to the placebo of playing better tennis. We have all been there at some point. And im not saying no one can use them, just that a lot of folks would probably be better off with frames like the Tour in this case.

i agree about the tour. I am sure the pro feels awesome just like the pt 2.0 but the best thing to do is film yourself hitting with them and examine if you really are generating the racquet head speed you think you are.

 

[nov]

He's a notorius troll account here.




TT is almost always about the heaviest version of a frame. Even though the majority of posters cangenerate high enough racquet speed with them, they still use them anyway.

why? I think its just because heavier frames feel better and add to the placebo of playing better tennis. We have all been there at some point. And im not saying no one can use them, just that a lot of folks would probably be better off with frames like the Tour in this case.

i agree about the tour. I am sure the pro feels awesome just like the pt 2.0 but the best thing to do is film yourself hitting with them and examine if you really are generating the racquet head speed you think you are.

I was very sceptical about most people here praising heavier frames until i started using heavier frame. Of course i am working everyday on my fitness and before i started working out seriously i couldnt even dream about playing heavier frame. Now i generate more RHS with 330gr racquet compared to 2-3 years ago playing with 300g one. Of course if your technique flawless and you hit sweetspot most of the time, its not that much matter. But for me its easier to play with heavier frame, but i need to generate decent RHS for my game. I could play 350gr racquet if i only play pushers whos giving me a lot of time, but 330gr its perfect mix for now.

 

[Lorenn]

i agree about the tour. I am sure the pro feels awesome just like the pt 2.0 but the best thing to do is film yourself hitting with them and examine if you really are generating the racquet head speed you think you are.

force=M*A so everything doesn't have to be about swing speed. I understand for the modern game SPIN SPIN SPIN...Other ways to get there. I like heavier racquets for a few reasons...One it is what I am accustom to...Two it makes me read the other player versus waiting and reacting to...Three I can relax and let the racquet do more of the work. Four Forces me to find a better efficient motion.

 

[La Pavoni]

I've been finding that as I've got used to the weight of it I've actually been playing better the longer matches have gone on (whereas coming from a lighter Blade 98s I did initially feel fatigued with it).

I also feel as though I have benefitted (especially on RoS) on telling myself to relax and just swing without forcing things on shots.

Strings though are my real problem at the moment. I had Golfer's Elbow earlier this year and I'm back on softer polys in a hybrid (current is PTP with Cream). It plays fantastically for around 3-4 hours. It then turns in to a trampoline. This is at 51/48lbs. I'm tempted to up everything by 3lbs on both mains and crosses and see what happens.

 

[HitMoreBHs]

force=M*A so everything doesn't have to be about swing speed. I understand for the modern game SPIN SPIN SPIN...Other ways to get there. I like heavier racquets for a few reasons...One it is what I am accustom to...Two it makes me read the other player versus waiting and reacting to...Three I can relax and let the racquet do more of the work. Four Forces me to find a better efficient motion.

Point 4 is exactly why I moved my sons upward in racquet weight as soon as they were ready at every stage. It helps to develop sound footwork, proper core muscle stabilisation and use of an efficient kinetic chain to execute shots. Too little weight and there’s a tendency to taking short cuts with stroke execution. Obviously there is a natural limit that each of us has, and it’s important to make a sensible choice rather than let ego take over!

 

[Lorenn]

Strings though are my real problem at the moment. I had Golfer's Elbow earlier this year and I'm back on softer polys in a hybrid (current is PTP with Cream). It plays fantastically for around 3-4 hours. It then turns in to a trampoline. This is at 51/48lbs. I'm tempted to up everything by 3lbs on both mains and crosses and see what happens.

Have you tried rehabing with Tyler twists?

 

[La Pavoni]

Have you tried rehabing with Tyler twists?

I've been doing them since about May (along with a few other arm exercises and some massage). I'm at a point now where I'm debating getting a blue flexbar as well.

 

[Lorenn]

I've been doing them since about May (along with a few other arm exercises and some massage). I'm at a point now where I'm debating getting a blue flexbar as well.

I feel they really help with recovery normally. 80% of the time...SO much better then the older method of basically not playing.

 

[t_pac]

Have you tried rehabing with Tyler twists?

Tyler Twists are for tennis elbow, won't do anything for golfers elbow. Need to reverse them.

 

[nov]

force=M*A so everything doesn't have to be about swing speed. I understand for the modern game SPIN SPIN SPIN...Other ways to get there. I like heavier racquets for a few reasons...One it is what I am accustom to...Two it makes me read the other player versus waiting and reacting to...Three I can relax and let the racquet do more of the work. Four Forces me to find a better efficient motion.

You right, but you need adequate RHS and the bigger level of players, more RHS you need. For example slice is very important shot and there is the difference when you hit it with different amount of RHS.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

What attracted me to the GPro was the classic beam and 18x20. Got one from Classifieds and got to say I really like the racquet and will probably switch to it as my only racquet.

It's really solid at everything with a lot of control. I don't feel the SW is high and the balance point makes it very maneuverable. The only thing that's annoying is the whole hitting backhands with the teal side/forehands with the red side. Probably because of a little OCD, but the red side is very distracting during my forehand preparation since it's right in my face.

 

[Lorenn]

You right, but you need adequate RHS and the bigger level of players, more RHS you need. For example slice is very important shot and there is the difference when you hit it with different amount of RHS.

You have to be better when you are playing better players. It is hard to have a forum and cover all levels. From 3.0 to College Scholarship and beyond. If I had to pick the one issue that separates ok players from good players it is the amount of tension in the body, followed by "proper kinetics" or as I would call it body unity. They go hand in hand. Many players might think only way to get better RHS is a lighter racquet when a more efficient relaxed motion will do more to increase swing speed. Sometimes a heavier racquet will allow a player to feel confident enough to relax. Which will do more for swing speed then reducing a racquet XX grams. In the end it really depends on the player and their level. At the Pro level they are now tuning at an insanely fine level. Rest of us... likely the most gains are in relaxing and efficient unified motion.

As for the red teal issue...likely that is why they switched it to green/blue

 

[Lorenn]

Tyler Twists are for tennis elbow, won't do anything for golfers elbow. Need to reverse them.

Using tyler twists as a general name for both the TE and GE versions of the exercise. I should've been a bit more precise.

 

[La Pavoni]

Using tyler twists as a general name for both the TE and GE versions of the exercise. I should've been a bit more precise.

I actually do both anyway. I don't have TE at the moment, but feel it can't hurt to prevent it happening

 

[Dartagnan64]

Using tyler twists as a general name for both the TE and GE versions of the exercise. I should've been a bit more precise.

I find the GE version of Tyler Twists to be too awkward. I basically due eccentric supination exercises with a frypan or some other similarly weighted object. That helps my GE the most.

 

[jdx2112]

Using tyler twists as a general name for both the TE and GE versions of the exercise. I should've been a bit more precise.

They've been very helpful for me. I suppose I had GE, but really I was just shredding the pronator teres muscle band serving with stiff racquets. Completely stopped and healed when I stopped using racquets with an RA over 64.

 

[DJTaurus]

He's a notorius troll account here.




TT is almost always about the heaviest version of a frame. Even though the majority of posters cangenerate high enough racquet speed with them, they still use them anyway.

why? I think its just because heavier frames feel better and add to the placebo of playing better tennis. We have all been there at some point. And im not saying no one can use them, just that a lot of folks would probably be better off with frames like the Tour in this case.

i agree about the tour. I am sure the pro feels awesome just like the pt 2.0 but the best thing to do is film yourself hitting with them and examine if you really are generating the racquet head speed you think you are.

No offense to any poster on TT. But i would like to view a video from many posters here competing against at least similar level players (2-3 hours match) with Gravity Pro, Prestige mid, cx tour, blade 18x20 (over specked ), blade pro lab, pt tour, tf40, ezone 98 tour, c10 pro etc. I am very curious how they will compete after only a 1 hour match and not a walk on the park. I guess they are either gym freaks or naturals like fed .... cause the best club players i see winning out there are using 295-305gr/16x19 sticks.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

No offense to any poster on TT. But i would like to view a video from many posters here competing against at least similar level players (2-3 hours match) with Gravity Pro, Prestige mid, cx tour, blade 18x20 (over specked ), blade pro lab, pt tour, tf40, ezone 98 tour, c10 pro etc. I am very curious how they will compete after only a 1 hour match and not a walk on the park. I guess they are either gym freaks or naturals like fed .... cause the best club players i see winning out there are using 295-305gr sticks.

Congratulations, your impossible to verify pseudo-fact just settled this thread.

 

[Vicious49]

I am currently demo'ing the Gravity Pro and Tour versions. After a few games I clearly preferred the Pro over the Tour. As someone else mentioned the feel is the primary thing that attracted me to it. I also prefer the added stability and plow through that it offers over the Tour. I need to do a bit more testing but am 80% sure I will be picking up this frame.

My question is as @Lorenn posted above, they will be changing colors shortly. Looks like TWEurope is already out of stock on some grip sizes of the current model. Do we have a specific date when Head will be releasing the new colors? Price being the same, I prefer the new color scheme slightly more than the current one so don't mind waiting a month or two.

 

[jdx2112]

I am currently demo'ing the Gravity Pro and Tour versions. After a few games I clearly preferred the Pro over the Tour. As someone else mentioned the feel is the primary thing that attracted me to it. I also prefer the added stability and plow through that it offers over the Tour. I need to do a bit more testing but am 80% sure I will be picking up this frame.

My question is as @Lorenn posted above, they will be changing colors shortly. Looks like TWEurope is already out of stock on some grip sizes of the current model. Do we have a specific date when Head will be releasing the new colors? Price being the same, I prefer the new color scheme slightly more than the current one so don't mind waiting a month or two.

Is it confirmed that it's just a new paint job? And not some tech upgrade?

 

[Djokofan]

I am currently demo'ing the Gravity Pro and Tour versions. After a few games I clearly preferred the Pro over the Tour. As someone else mentioned the feel is the primary thing that attracted me to it. I also prefer the added stability and plow through that it offers over the Tour. I need to do a bit more testing but am 80% sure I will be picking up this frame.

My question is as @Lorenn posted above, they will be changing colors shortly. Looks like TWEurope is already out of stock on some grip sizes of the current model. Do we have a specific date when Head will be releasing the new colors? Price being the same, I prefer the new color scheme slightly more than the current one so don't mind waiting a month or two.

i love the current teal/red. not a big fan of the yellow-ish look to the 2021 stick

 

[Lorenn]

Is it confirmed that it's just a new paint job? And not some tech upgrade?

My understanding is that all of the existing racquets which are already 360+ tech will be staying the same.(tech wise) The racquets which did not get upgraded last time will be upgraded to 360+ tech.

 

[jdx2112]

My understanding is that all of the existing racquets which are already 360+ tech will be staying the same.(tech wise) The racquets which did not get upgraded last time will be upgraded to 360+ tech.

Ok. Makes sense. I was asking bc I thought I saw some new markings on the new Gravity paint job image that was floating around.

 

[Lorenn]

No offense to any poster on TT. But i would like to view a video from many posters here competing against at least similar level players (2-3 hours match) with Gravity Pro, Prestige mid, cx tour, blade 18x20 (over specked ), blade pro lab, pt tour, tf40, ezone 98 tour, c10 pro etc. I am very curious how they will compete after only a 1 hour match and not a walk on the park. I guess they are either gym freaks or naturals like fed .... cause the best club players i see winning out there are using 295-305gr/16x19 sticks.

Do you think 10 grams is really going to make that much difference?(2.8% extra weight) I don't know you or your play level but if you think 10 grams is tons of extra weight to carry I am guessing you are using too much arm muscle when you play. Look at the play testers for tennis warehouse and which racquets they use...Almost all use player frames. A heavier frame is often easier to swing and requires less energy. Largest increase for swing speed is relaxing and proper kinetics. Not using a 10 gram lighter racquet.

 

[nov]

You have to be better when you are playing better players. It is hard to have a forum and cover all levels. From 3.0 to College Scholarship and beyond. If I had to pick the one issue that separates ok players from good players it is the amount of tension in the body, followed by "proper kinetics" or as I would call it body unity. They go hand in hand. Many players might think only way to get better RHS is a lighter racquet when a more efficient relaxed motion will do more to increase swing speed. Sometimes a heavier racquet will allow a player to feel confident enough to relax. Which will do more for swing speed then reducing a racquet XX grams. In the end it really depends on the player and their level. At the Pro level they are now tuning at an insanely fine level. Rest of us... likely the most gains are in relaxing and efficient unified motion.

As for the red teal issue...likely that is why they switched it to green/blue

You can win match by just pushing the ball, being not even close better. But when i look at truly good players, they strokes look much faster than lower level players.

 

[blablavla]

I am currently demo'ing the Gravity Pro and Tour versions. After a few games I clearly preferred the Pro over the Tour. As someone else mentioned the feel is the primary thing that attracted me to it. I also prefer the added stability and plow through that it offers over the Tour. I need to do a bit more testing but am 80% sure I will be picking up this frame.

My question is as @Lorenn posted above, they will be changing colors shortly. Looks like TWEurope is already out of stock on some grip sizes of the current model. Do we have a specific date when Head will be releasing the new colors? Price being the same, I prefer the new color scheme slightly more than the current one so don't mind waiting a month or two.

it is only PJ upgrade.
having this in mind I ordered a bunch of Gravity Pro and Tour rackets at 50% discount that happened recently at TWE.
hope this will be my investment into rackets for the next 6-10 years.

P.S.
of course I ordered racket matching service + spare grommets

 

[blablavla]

No offense to any poster on TT. But i would like to view a video from many posters here competing against at least similar level players (2-3 hours match) with Gravity Pro, Prestige mid, cx tour, blade 18x20 (over specked ), blade pro lab, pt tour, tf40, ezone 98 tour, c10 pro etc. I am very curious how they will compete after only a 1 hour match and not a walk on the park. I guess they are either gym freaks or naturals like fed .... cause the best club players i see winning out there are using 295-305gr/16x19 sticks.

dude, unfortunately it's not that black and white.
indeed, there are enough who play light-weighted stiff frames.
but actually the best player in my club swings a Prestige. OK, he is a former ATP player. But he swings it all day long, as he is now a coach.

going to the weekend warriors, there are as well both, stock light-weighted frames and heavier frames, or frames that have some weight added.

going to myself.
currently rated at approx. top 15% of players in a country with tens of thousands of active competitors. So probably a tad better than your typical 3.0 or 3.5 analogy in US.
Played most of my life with Babolat Control, then Aero Pro Drive, Pure Aero, all in stock form.
Because of pain in the wrist switched from Pure Aero to Gravity Tour.
I ordered Pro Tour 2.0 as soon as it was released, which coincided with the end of lockdown. During first hours it felt clunky. At low speeds, I had laser precision, but as soon as speed increased, I felt that hefty SW and how it stopped me.
Few months later tried it again and now I choose it over GTour, cause now I am in a better shape, and swinging it for 2 hours isn't a problem and when I hit the sweet spot, well, there is a difference in plow through.
Recently during the sale ordered some Gravity Pro, matched, which came at a bit higher SW than advertised. I believe with the strings it's probably 340-345.
Well, I don't have an issue in playing 1 or 2 hours with the GPro.
And I am not a gym freak or something.
But yes, it takes a period of adjustment. If I simply take the GPro after hitting with GTour and try to serve as hard as I can, my shoulder might have something against it.
Give the body a bit of time to get used to the racket, proper warm-up, and after actually playing and training with GPro, hitting as hard as I can from the baseline and the service, well, you don't need to be Schwarzenegger to play with it.
But sure, you're right, it is not for everyone.

 

[odtennis]

Hi!
Wanted to tell you about my story coming to the Gravity line.
Last summer (2019), I played with the Pure Strike 16x19 at 305 grams.
Had been playing with that frame for over two years at that point and was liking that racket, but wanted to
see what else was out there and how other racket played.

At the time the Clash was very hyped up, so I bought a Clash Tour 310 gram and a Gravity Pro 315 gram
to try to play with a heavier racket.

When receiving them I immediately realised two things (which all of you here already know ofc.):

1. Balance and SW is so much more evident than the static weight. The Clash felt light, very manoeuvrable and fast.
The Gravity felt head heavy and slow. <= In my hands that were used to the Pure Strike.

2. String pattern and beam width make a huge difference. The Clash produced very good amounts of spin and power.
The Gravity Pro had much less spin and much less power on it.

But there was still something about the Gravity Pro that felt really good about it. I forced me to hit the ball with better technique.
I could not cheat with it our try to arm the ball. I needed to let the racket do the job to re-gain the spin and power.
And I could do that without loosing control, when I was on on my A game.

During winter, The courts are slower here and I'm not as "fit" as during summer, which meant I was not able to play with the Gravity
during matches. I got fatigued and needed the power from the Clash. So I played with the Clash all winter, but never really loved that racket.
It always felt too "soft" and a bit mushy to me.

During spring I picked up Gravity again and the more I played with it, the more I loved it, and it continued to evolve my technique on both my FH
and Serve. Today I play with it exclusively and It no longer feels slow, or powerless.

Pros and Cons of GPro for me:
- Demands that you use it correctly. You cannot arm this racket.
- Big sweet sport that feels plush at impact.
- Very accurate, which, together with a lower launch angle, can make it lethal on good days.
- On a bad/slow/weak day, it makes you feel powerless.
- I sometimes miss the more open pattern and light head of other rackets for being able to generate spiny, defensive, shots easily. You can't create those without
effort on this frame. You need to have time to "throw" the racket weight through the ball to generate anything at all.

As a side note, I recently test played the Ezone 98 Tour (315 gram, 16x19), because it was in between, in terms of specs, what I have played with previously.
Strung it up the same way as I do my Gravity Pro, with Solinco Confidential 17g at 50 lbs.
That's a really good racket, and It generates more spin and a lot more power then the Gravity, But I had a hard time controlling it and lacked the "pin-point" precision I have on the GPro. And the much higher launch angel needed me to ALWAYS think about the amount of spin that I needed to make the ball land in (Same as with the Clash). I don't have to do that with the Gravity Pro.

 

[mikele]

I recently just got 2 Gpro matched, 337gr with damper and overgrip, really liked the frames, I used to play competitively in the past with oversized ( donnay pro one ltd) so the head shape did not bother me. Always liked heavier frames so with these ones felt like at home. I got them as I was lately playing with babolat but they gave me a TE and wrist pain, really liked the babs but, as someone mentioned before, I really think are better suit for younger players and I am in my mid forties. I loved the feel of the racquet but is true that you need to be on the top of your game to take the most out of it, and it penalize you when you are lazy on your feet and hit late, but once you are on time and hit the sweetspot it is really a great frame. At the moment I am looking for the best strings, so far I have tested:

Hyper G in 1.25- Liked the spin but did not like the feel, too harsh outside the sweetspot
Adrenaline 1.30- liked the feel and control, not so much spin, but good overall
Lynx 1.30 - Liked the feel and spin , so far the winner

Still to test :

Hyper G soft 1.30
Wilson Revolve spin 1.30

What is your best string set up so far?

 

[Lorenn]

As a side note, I recently test played the Ezone 98 Tour (315 gram, 16x19), because it was in between, in terms of specs, what I have played with previously.
Strung it up the same way as I do my Gravity Pro, with Solinco Confidential 17g at 50 lbs.
That's a really good racket, and It generates more spin and a lot more power then the Gravity, But I had a hard time controlling it and lacked the "pin-point" precision I have on the GPro. And the much higher launch angel needed me to ALWAYS think about the amount of spin that I needed to make the ball land in (Same as with the Clash). I don't have to do that with the Gravity Pro.

I enjoy the Lynx Line of String when it comes to Poly.

Speed MP. Radical Series 360+ when release in January. Off days I use the Speed MP or Prince Beast 98 O3. Depends on how much of a off day I am having.

 

[Lorenn]

You can win match by just pushing the ball, being not even close better. But when i look at truly good players, they strokes look much faster than lower level players.

If I play a person and they let me push the ball until they error. I am the better/smarter player. The goal of the game is normally to win, or at least have fun. Question you have to ask yourself now is how do they swing so much faster...do they look tense when swinging? or does the swing look natural...like a walk in the park. Are they using their core and structure to add strength to their shots. DO they get tired faster than the lower level player? or are they using efficient motion to prevent that from happening?

 

[HitTheBall]

I’ve been playing with the Gravity Pro for a couple days now. Same specs as my modded Ultra Tour; and with same strings. As I hoped it is a way more forgiving frame; the good hitting zone feels much larger; way more types of spin are accessible with much less risk. Power: significantly more; defence easier; generally don’t have to hit it as hard (therefore feels easier on the body) - wouldn’t want more power. Slices are surprisingly good. As expected spin serves are easier with more rotations. Flat serves give a satisfying crack sound. Feel and feedback excellent - i find this important, then you know when you’ve hit it well! Works well for the one hander backhand. Pleasure to play with. It’ll take me a few weeks to figure out the true potential and feel of attack drives in particular. Driven and drop volleys more than fine. No squeaky butt cap (like my Speed Pros, thankfully); still tinkering with grip to get it to fit my hand..... i don’t like switching racquets but this one feels worth the effort! ( or is it just the infatuation stage....!)

HaHa: reporting back on this GPro after more than a year. Couldn’t put the stick down since! So what more do I know now?
(Clearly i couldn‘t get a court tonight, so i find myself writing this!)
I picked up a Project one 7 Pure Drive the other day for a few minutes and it reminded me of a few things .... pretty quickly.
GPro is a very comfortable racquet - yes a bit of maintenance needed on an ageing body, but nothing a bit of stretching and massage can’t alleviate.
(20 mins with pure drive and wrist, elbow, know about it the next day!)
GPro hitting wet heavy balls in cold British winters: still works!
In Summer in the heat, you can raise the tension a bit if you like. Or more simply just cover the ball more, there’s plenty of string bed to work with!
Spin is there to be had, 100 sq inches, and a thin beam....
1 handed backhand topspin: choose a sweet spot nearer the top of the racquet and let rip!
Serves over 100mph (according to head sensor) and you can feel the whole head cup and catapult the ball
Topspin serves - there’s no excuse, there’s so much string bed to work with?
Volleys and drop shots - more than plenty of feel.
High topspin above shoulder height? Plenty of racquet head real estate to work with. Likewise for low half volley pickups receiving serve returns at the backhand....
I chose a very thin grip (wilson featherthin) so i can hold the racquet mainly by the butt cap: makes it feel super manoeuvrable for topspin forehands or weird emergency volleys. Makes the racquet feel light and flickable.
Slice is not the best (say cf RF 97), but again if you pick the higher sweet spot it’s there to be had - to make serious weapon for the grass.... (gotta work on mine)
So any criticisms? well no, it’s just me, which is great, it gives honest feedback. Perhaps it is not a showy racquet? It’s understated. When you hit well, it just happens. There is no wow like a Pure Strike monster forehand?
String: if interested; tour bite 120 at 45lbs strung Sergetti method (could go to 48 in summer) which increases the sweet spot size embarrassingly.
When against players way better than me (some ex ATP, some with forehands faster than my serve), it feels like i need to read the ball and move faster; if they have big strikes I never feel the racquet can’t take it; it’s just me being late. And against slower balls, just relax and enjoy!
Of course this doesn’t mean I won’t try other racquets, but this does seem to work.....

 

[geubes]

I have tried several racquets over the last summer and the Gravity line crossed my path twice.

A little background - I have not played tennis for a couple of years and re-started this June. I always favored a powerful but versatile tennis.
Fast points but not Goran Ivanisevic if you know what i mean
Now, being in my mid 40s, I had to reinvent my play and also my gear.

I started off with the Wilson Blade 100L but came to a stop after a couple of weeks due to its low weight. So, after that I tried several racquets including the Gravity Pro and the Gravity Tour.

When I first started playing with the Pro I really liked it but the weight took its toll - fast. Damn, this one is heavy.... It wore me out and at the net I lost my timing due to its weight.
So, I switched towards the Tour - at the beginning I was not a big fan. I was missing the pop and speed - BUT....things got better hour after hour. We moved towards each other and I found out that the TOUR has some really nice characteristics that made my playing style a little bit more versatile. First of all, the backhand slice is really nice with this one. Secondly, the straight serve is a beast - kick/Slice not as much but straight... wow. Thirdly, awesome pocketing, with this one you don't need to hammer your opponent 24/7. Point & shoot and let your opponent run.

Also very nice is the large sweet spot, especially on returns. A very forgiving and nice thing compared to the Blade (e.g.). Whenever i didn't really hit it spot on, it was jarring a little bit. The GT is nicer to your arm.

I still miss the heavy shots (haven't figured out how to get them back yet) and sometimes it freaks me out that I have to be more patient in my game. But to me it is definitely a keeper and I will try a couple of different strings to see if I can adjust a little bit more towards my style. Currently I got a Kirschbaum Pro Line Evolution with 25/25 but will try lowering it to 23 or maybe even 22 in the future.

The Tour will probably not become my most powerful racquet but it is very enjoyable and broadens my style.

Have you tried strings other than Pro Line Evo in the Gravity? I tried it on multiple occasions (including again only this week) and will be cutting it out. Something about the combo of frame and string means I get an odd feel on contact and produces a really inconsistent ball.
Ice Code and YPTP are two polys I personally like in this frame (full bed or hybrid as a main)

 

[La Pavoni]

Considering how cheap these are at the moment I'm thinking about picking up an MP or a Tour to go with my pair of Pros.
In the winter with the availability of courts I find myself playing more doubles than I would ideally like. In many matches I find that the Pro is probably overkill. You don't get enough opportunity to really swing out and I think you need to swing out to get the best from these.

Which would anyone pick in a similar situation? MP or Tour? I'm slightly worried that an overspec Tour might be a bit pointless?

 

[Lorenn]

Which would anyone pick in a similar situation? MP or Tour? I'm slightly worried that an overspec Tour might be a bit pointless?

If given an option I would test Speed MP, Gravity MP and Extreme MP. I ended up picking Speed MP in the same situation.

 

[jdx2112]

If given an option I would test Speed MP, Gravity MP and Extreme MP. I ended up picking Speed MP in the same situation.

I find the Gravity MP to be a significantly less stable racquet than those other two.

The Speed MP has the a thicker beam, even though it's still light, same with the Extreme MP.

Personally, I think if you want to gear down from the Gravity Pro you should consider:

Gravity Tour - it's very close to the Pro
Blade 98 - 18x20 is closer in SW to the Pro
Clash Tour
TF40 305

 

[jdx2112]

Considering how cheap these are at the moment I'm thinking about picking up an MP or a Tour to go with my pair of Pros.
In the winter with the availability of courts I find myself playing more doubles than I would ideally like. In many matches I find that the Pro is probably overkill. You don't get enough opportunity to really swing out and I think you need to swing out to get the best from these.

Which would anyone pick in a similar situation? MP or Tour? I'm slightly worried that an overspec Tour might be a bit pointless?

Good point about the Tour. My Tour came in strung at 11.33oz and 323 SW, 3.75 balance. With dampener and overgrip, 11.7oz and I'm assuming the SW ticked up a point or two, as well as balance.

 

[La Pavoni]

I find the Gravity MP to be a significantly less stable racquet than those other two.

The Speed MP has the a thicker beam, even though it's still light, same with the Extreme MP.

Personally, I think if you want to gear down from the Gravity Pro you should consider:

Gravity Tour - it's very close to the Pro
Blade 98 - 18x20 is closer in SW to the Pro
Clash Tour
TF40 305

The thing is I can sneak another Gravity in to the tennis bag without it being noticed. Anything else (especially the Extreme!) will definitely be noticed.
After arm issues earlier this year (brought on by a Blade 98CV) I also think I'll stick with them for arm health reasons

 

[jdx2112]

The thing is I can sneak another Gravity in to the tennis bag without it being noticed. Anything else (especially the Extreme!) will definitely be noticed.
After arm issues earlier this year (brought on by a Blade 98CV) I also think I'll stick with them for arm health reasons

Understood. You will have no arm issues with the Gravity.

Speed Pro is pretty flexy, though heavier than the MP. And the Extreme line has a slightly higher RA than previous versions, but the 360+ makes it maneagable.

 

[Lorenn]

I find the Gravity MP to be a significantly less stable racquet than those other two.

The Speed MP has the a thicker beam, even though it's still light, same with the Extreme MP.

Personally, I think if you want to gear down from the Gravity Pro you should consider:

Gravity Tour - it's very close to the Pro
Blade 98 - 18x20 is closer in SW to the Pro
Clash Tour
TF40 305

Not sure he is looking for a scaled down Gravity Pro. In all honesty one doesn't exist. The Tour has thicker beams. MP was not my favorite. It played fine as long as my timing was perfect. It felt like work.(just my experience) I think what he was looking for is a good doubles racquet, with a Head like feel that is easy to use.(basically increased maneuverability and maybe slightly more forgiving) If it was me I would look at

Speed MP
Extreme MP
Prince Textreme series
Prince Beast 98 O3 if in the US.
Radical 360+ series when released.

He was leaning Gravity line because it was so affordable at the moment.(and avoids aggro) You could pay for matching and try to get a light tour. My issue with the MP might've been string choice or he might enjoy focusing on well timed swings. MP might be good enough for most doubles but it depends on who you play. Gravity S is not bad.

 

[jalapeno74]

Have you tried strings other than Pro Line Evo in the Gravity? I tried it on multiple occasions (including again only this week) and will be cutting it out. Something about the combo of frame and string means I get an odd feel on contact and produces a really inconsistent ball.
Ice Code and YPTP are two polys I personally like in this frame (full bed or hybrid as a main)

No, I did not. Until now...
Thanks for the tip, I will try that during the winter season

 

[La Pavoni]

The thing is I can sneak another Gravity in to the tennis bag without it being noticed. Anything else (especially the Extreme!) will definitely be noticed.
After arm issues earlier this year (brought on by a Blade 98CV) I also think I'll stick with them for arm health reasons

I bit the bullet and ordered an MP (I spent a couple of days putting both it and the Tour in my basket and switching between the two).
In the end I decided on the MP as my two Pros are around 312g unstrung. Even a tiny amount overspec on the Tour and I could end up being very close.

I'm looking forward to getting the MP strung up. Sadly though I got it really to experiment around with at doubles and we are now looking at a month in the UK with only singles (at least outdoors, hopefully....) allowed.

 

[jdx2112]

I bit the bullet and ordered an MP (I spent a couple of days putting both it and the Tour in my basket and switching between the two).
In the end I decided on the MP as my two Pros are around 312g unstrung. Even a tiny amount overspec on the Tour and I could end up being very close.

I'm looking forward to getting the MP strung up. Sadly though I got it really to experiment around with at doubles and we are now looking at a month in the UK with only singles (at least outdoors, hopefully....) allowed.

I’m current on the hunt for an under spec Gravity Pro, especially with swing weight. Spoke to TW’s main competitor the other day and the lightest swing weight in my grip size was 317 unstrung. Unreal.

 

[J-Wildcard]

Has anyone moved on from a frame such as the prestige to the gravity line. I have tried a lot of different rackets and always reverted back to the prestige mp (ig version) I have found rackets giving more on individual strokes but not the full package. I have looked at trying the gravity pro but I am concerned about the High swingweight and especially how that will affect maneuverability for doubles play etc. I don't want to do what I've done in the past with keep switching frames and would rather tweak string tension/type for fine tuning. The tour has also had a lot of good reports and feedback I've seen. I can see there is a drop down in weight, but as always the balance has been shifted towards something that would be more like the radical right? I think the last 305g head I used was a prestige s which was just lacking a bit to be honest but not a bad frame still, it hunk its profile similar to the tour too (22 maybe?) but open pattern I think

 

[iceman_dl6]

Has anyone moved on from a frame such as the prestige to the gravity line. I have tried a lot of different rackets and always reverted back to the prestige mp (ig version) I have found rackets giving more on individual strokes but not the full package. I have looked at trying the gravity pro but I am concerned about the High swingweight and especially how that will affect maneuverability for doubles play etc. I don't want to do what I've done in the past with keep switching frames and would rather tweak string tension/type for fine tuning. The tour has also had a lot of good reports and feedback I've seen. I can see there is a drop down in weight, but as always the balance has been shifted towards something that would be more like the radical right? I think the last 305g head I used was a prestige s which was just lacking a bit to be honest but not a bad frame still, it hunk its profile similar to the tour too (22 maybe?) but open pattern I think

I’m currently testing several racquets and the Gravity Tour is one of them. I like its maneuverability, big sweetspot, comfort and it has decent spin, stability, power and control! I have played with the Gravity Pro before, but while it has easier power due to the higher SW, it tires me out during a long match or hitting session.
I too have used the IG Prestige MP around 8 years ago, but found it to be underpowered.

 

[J-Wildcard]

I’m currently testing several racquets and the Gravity Tour is one of them. I like its maneuverability, big sweetspot, comfort and it has decent spin, stability, power and control! I have played with the Gravity Pro before, but while it has easier power due to the higher SW, it tires me out during a long match or hitting session.
I too have used the IG Prestige MP around 8 years ago, but found it to be underpowered.

Interesting, yes I agree that the ig prestige mp is a bit underpowered but that allows you to bring your own power to the table although in cold heavy conditions like I'm currently playing that is harder work of course during winter. The pro looks good but that high swingweight is of concern, the tour sounds worth a go to me as long as the balance isn't a problem, I've found 320mm rackets a problem in the past but obviously you have to play with the racket to see how it actually performs, on paper is one thing but there's no substitute for hitting with it.