How many slams will Novak win in 2023
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Hitman
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GabeT
G.O.A.T.
One must adjust to new information
DSH
Talk Tennis Guru
Where is the documentary your idol promised about his miraculous recovery from the alleged abdominal tear at the Australian Open 2021?
Please stop Gabe, you're killing that guy!
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Borg is in his rear view mirror. Lol. Having a higher winning percentage on grass and at Wimbledon while playing until he's 35 while the other guy retired at 25 closes that door completely.
Angel Sascha
New User
Thiem got what he deserved. "Stop! He’s already dead!", so to speak.Are they better than Thiem though?
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
Lol that's the perfect TTW answer.
Rafa the King
Hall of Fame
So did Nadal's family who came down for the second week, and managed to get back home on the same plane on which they arrived after it was re-fueled.
Damn, you pretend you are not, but you are really toxic you know that?
Lauren_Girl'
Hall of Fame
USO, average Medvedev? That was the most flawless match of his life. His own words. Easily his best tournament ever. He only lost one set through the whole tournament. Anyone would have lost against him that day. He is average SINCE USO21, on the other hand.
RG: easily? 7-6 in the 4th set tie-break. Djokovic was up 5-2 in the 4th and missed MULTIPLE set points on his serve. And he is unbeatable in 5th sets. If Djokovic closes this 4th set 6-3 he becomes the favorite of the match. And that was Nadal's pet tournament. And no, he wasn't injured, that is fan fiction. In any other Slam and other surfaces, Djokovic would straight set him. Like he does every single times on Hard courts since 2013.
WB... he beat 2 of the most in-form players, Sinner and Kyrgios. I have seen much easier Slam draws for other players.
He also won the last 3 AO he played and the last 4 Wimbledon he played. Didn't lose in RG against another player than Nadal since 2019. Hasn't lost a match on hard courts in Masters1000 since Shanghaï 2019. But sure, he is finished.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
TTW has only two options, you are GOAT or a mug!
DSH
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The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for confirming the USO hurt. Not laughing there are we?
What US Open hurt? You mean 4-3, 2-1 bud
Angel Sascha
New User
It’s true. And we all know that the GOAT is Nadal, whether one is willing to admit it or prefers not to.
Nadal_Django
Legend
It was a short trip for Papa Sebastian, that's for sure.So did Nadal's family who came down for the second week, and managed to get back home on the same plane on which they arrived after it was re-fueled.
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
It was a short trip for Papa Sebastian, that's for sure.
How was Novak's trip?
Tennfan123
Legend
oh, this thread really did backfire
Hitman
Bionic Poster
It was a short trip for Papa Sebastian, that's for sure.
At least he didn't have to worry about the jetlag.
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Slicehand
Guest
Wow, djokovic loss against felix didnt look convincing at all
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Don't worry about Rafa's father mate.... got far more class than the father of your boy...
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
But Fed is better at 3 of the 4 slams and 2 of the 3 surfaces. What kind of a goat is that?
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
He wins 1! 1 more than Rafa though!
Higher winning percentage by playing whom in last several years draw.
Borg won 5 in a row beating some of the best. While djokovic hasn't done that.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
For now but by end of next year it will end up 22-22.
Mark-Touch
Legend
I guess 0 now?
Latest is always greatest, no?
Latest is always greatest, no?
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Like Borg's era was so tough. Connors was his biggest rival who doesn't compare to Federer and Nadal. The era got tough when McEnroe arrived and then he bailed soon as he was beaten. Djokovic battled against better players at his peak and still ended up with the higher winning percentage, well after his peak ended while Borg retired while still on a high. Never played again once he came down from his peak so his percentage never dropped as it would have if he played in his 30s.
Yeah Since when Djokovic beat Peak Fed at Wimbledon. He is largely benefitted because of murrays injury halt when he was at his peak in 2016. Nadal in 2010s was never a threat on grass after his multiple injury breaks and mostly skipped it.
Rafa the King
Hall of Fame
I’ll just add him to the ignore list I guess
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
Federer at his peak or not, he still was better than most of the players Borg was playing against and definitely better than Connors. Djokovic battled defending champ Nadal in 2011 and resurgent aggressive Nadal in 2018. Murray fell off but Djokovic still had dangerous players like Cilic, Tsonga, Berdych and Anderson to deal with. Won the title in 2015 where every player he played against were at least top 20 at some point in their careers, and in 2014 six out of the seven players he played were all once ranked in the top 10. Borg's era is overrated and Djokovic's was solidly better in my eyes, at least when both were at their peaks.
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
I didn't watch all of it but the bits I saw do make me think it will be hard for Djokovic to win a Major again as he got bullied by FAA. Obviously its just an exho so there is zero pressure at all so it doesn't point to anything significant but in terms of stroke play there does seem to be a number of players who can over power which at his age is problematic as he isn't as quick as he was. Djokovic is better than FAA but back to back matches against the likes of FAA Alcaraz Sinner etc will be very hard for a 36 year old.
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
I don't think there is a GOAT as the Big 3 are too closely matched. They have all got amazing numbers but of the 3 Nadal at the moment has the most satisfying resume. They are 3 GOATS though
ChaelAZ
G.O.A.T.
His best chances would be Aussie or, more likely Wibmy. But will see how the season starts and what draws he gets now that he is down in rankings. Curious to see if he gets a first round bye too.
Anyway, maybe 1 but I don’t think anything is as foregone a conclusion as the past. Got more faith in ALCZ moving forward.
Anyway, maybe 1 but I don’t think anything is as foregone a conclusion as the past. Got more faith in ALCZ moving forward.
vive le beau jeu !
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Djokovic_is_the_best#1
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From one scale to another makes sense!
Hitman
Bionic Poster
There is no GOAT. Just best of their eras, and Nadal is currently the best of his with the most slams.
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
Well I think he and Novak are best of their era and Roger preceded them. Honestly think Rafa and Novak and Roger would read stuff online about goat stuff and roll their eyes. 22 21 20 are insane numbers. Each has records the other doesn't. They all get on well. For me they are equals. Just always wanted a Rafa v Novak Wimbledon final and this year was a shame. No offence to Kyrgios but he is not beating Rafa and Novak at slams. They have him all worked out.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Oh, I agree. I am talking about the thinnest of margins here.
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
Wafer thin really. Let's just hope we get to see sport played out next year without politics. You would think its a given but honestly nowadays nothing will surprise me!!
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Oh, for sure. It's just here you get pulled into all the crap, because some simply cannot let it go and want their guy to be THE Guy, because somehow that makes them on the winning side of history, and of course many do live vicariously though these players. I've seen over 4 decades of this sport, and I can say, outside of this site, and others like it, no one really cares.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
We just have to enjoy what we have left of djokovic and Nadal. They could maybe only play for another a year or 2. They have not got long left now. It’s sad we lost the great Federer but tennis goes on and it will again without nadalovic as well. The sport is in good hands.
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
Yeah snap with me. I hate the Internet and what it has done to society but this Laver Cup and the camaraderie between the players just made me realise how much time people waster hating on players who don't even know they exist.
Yes if there is bad blood between the players then you can understand the toxicity but Federer Nadal and Djokovic clearly like each other and are happy for the success of the other two even though they want the records. They are content with their careers and have no major regrets. That was crystal clear this weekend. Many go on about Djokovic being like some sort of anti christ and nobody likes him and he and Federer don't get on and saltiness yet there Novak was hoisting the bloke in the air celebrating his career. Rafa and Novak will be the same with each other so you would think the toxicity would evaporate but that's not how the Internet works. People need a reason to be angry at someone about something
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
Definitely. What's not to like about all the guys we saw at Laver Cup and then Alcaraz and Sinner apart from the Tsitsipas backhand. Boy does he need work on that shot. Yikes
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Yeah I really enjoyed watching Tiafoe, Felix, Ruud and berra this weekend. That’s without sinner or alcaraz. Then tsitsipas is good to watch but his BH is a huge liability as you say. The doubles was fun too and sock played awesome in them. We have plenty to look forward to even when all the big 3 and Murray depart.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Here's the thing. People want to project what they would personally like onto these guys and paint the narrative. The real truth is, none of us know these guys personally. Djokovic has come out in the past and said that when he became a father, the first person he messaged and spent a lot of time talking to was Federer. Asking him how he managed to have a family and still be so successful, and Federer and him would spent a lot of time talking about their families.
Djokovic has also come out and said that he, Fed and Rafa all have a secret whatsapp group where they are often chatting to each other. Federer personally invited Djokovic to Laver Cup in 2018 and the two spent a lot of time together, so they get to experience being on the same side, and Novak had made it part of his objective to do that.
Federer was telling Novak that he loved him here, breaking down, Novak got all emotional also...that doesn't happen between two people who hate each other....there is only so much acting you can do.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
The field is way too weak to win 0.
Roubaixcomp
Rookie
Yes exactly. Novak said yesterday that what got him was when Rogers children came out. That isn't Fakeness or PR. And he looked Mirka straight in the eye saying he hoped they had a great new chapter. Rafa literally came just for the ceremony and doubles match.
Do people really think these three will lose a wink of sleep because one of them may have had a few more slams. They just wanted to do the best they could do and all three have gone way beyond what they thought they would.
I wonder if people still think of Mcenroe and Connors and mcenroe and lendl who don't speak to this day and sort of think that's how rivalries always are.
Times change. Look at Sinner and Alcaraz. Potentially they could be splitting slams for the next decade but they will always be very close off court.
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
who doesn't?
doesn't mean he's not classless either...
You just don't like him because he made Rafa
TheWizardFromElPalmar
Rookie
Carlos will win the Australian Open, Nadal or Carlos RG, Djoko Wimbledon, and US Open Carlos again.
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