I just bought a couple of Volkl C10 Pro's .......

[iscottius]

One is an older version with the fishnet on the frame, and has a sticker that says made in germany. Also on the side of the frame where "c10 pro" is written is smaller and written differently than the newer ones.

It weighs 12.2 oz strung with overgrip & dampener.

The other one is the newer version that is sold on TW and is 12.5 oz strung with overgrip & dampener.

Where these racquets ever made in germany? Has the weight, balance or swingweight changed over the years? Is the .3 oz a big deal?

by the way love the feel, touch, power & spin this racquet provides. The ball feels as though its on the strings forever.

Iscottius

 

[dl125]

I'm curious on strings and tension used on your C10.

 

[iscottius]

The older one (lighter) is strung with sensation at 57, and the newer one is strung with Alpha Tenacity (tenacity is a PSGD clone that came with my revo 4k) at 59.

 

[Django]

Many (including me) have found that the C-10s play better at middle to lower range of tension. 57 is about as high as you'd like. I also found that a thinner gauge provides better feel and bite. I used 17-gauge multifilaments including Wilson's NXT line and Tecnifibre NRG2.

 

[Rabbit]

Agree with Django. I used to string mine at 54 with TIMO. I really found out that 54 is the ideal tension for any string for me and the C10.

 

[NoBadMojo]

iscottius to answer your questions, yes Volkls were once made in Germany, and I believe the specs have changed over time. The older graphic frames <the ones without the hologram sticker> played lighter and stiffer <to me>.

 

[mctennis]

I also think a 54 or 55 lb range is better for the C10 Pro racquet. It is a flexy racquet to begin with. Playing with a tight string tension takes some of the feel away. IMHO. Welcome to Volkl World. They are GREAT sticks.

 

[Michael Musok]

I've gone back to playing with my C10 Pro and liking it much better than my Gen2. As far as tension, I took someone's advice (I think it was ron anderson) who used to post here. His advise was string it at 62 and when I did it really made the C10 Pro come alive for me. It's funny because I string all my other Volkl 10 series racquets around the middle, about 55, but for some reason I love the C10 Pro at 62 with Blue Star Lazer these days, I used to use Gosen JC 17 which also worked well. I really think the tighter/firmer string bed works well with the C10's more flexy than normal hoop. Kind of funny, I always seem to come back to the C10 Pro after 6 month stints with other 10 series racquets. I think it's the racquet for me even though I keep trying to ditch it every time Volkl puts out a new racquet. You would think that I'd learn. Now, what does that new DNX 10 weigh?

 

[Colpo]

I'm puzzled that you have a C10 or C10 variant frame marked 'made in Germany'.

The earliest version of the C10 I know of is the old Comp Series 10, a mostly black frame with light yellow fishnet accenting and a 93" head (before there were 98" heads). The Comp Series line was clearly and permanently marked 'designed in Germany' on the side of the throat, and the Comp Series dates back to the mid-90s. The idea that at any later stage, Volkl would have returned production to Germany is highly unlikely.

My best guess is that Volkl ceased German production around '93 or '94, not too long before the Comp Series was introduced, but before nonetheless.

Volkl kept the fishnet graphic for the next version of the 10, called the 'Classic 10 Pro'. Those words actually appear on the side of the frame. The graphic of the 'Classic 10' is alot louder and with more of a graffiti influence than the Comp 10. The next and current version is the 'C10 Pro', which dates back to about '98 and seems to borrow its graphic from a bombed number 4 train circa 1981 (that's an NYC reference, yo).

 

[NoBadMojo]

Regarding tensions in the C10, I believe the C10 can play well with a wide variety of tensions and strings. Depending on the string I would say mid40's to mid60's. That's one of the great things about frames like this. You can set it up to play in different ways depending on your needs, capacity to generate power, ablity to produce spin, desired ball feel, etc etc.

 

[dl125]

I'm glad to read the strings and tensions used by other C10 owners. I had Luxilon alum at 62lbs and liked it. I had it restrung a few weeks ago at 58lbs with Luxilon original rough and it feels sort of lame. I think I might try a lower tension and see if I can love it again.

 

[jonolau]

Over the years, I finally settled on my current setup: Gamma TNT Extreme Spin 19 at 57lbs. The aramid strings give it really great feel on your shots, and adds much more spin.

I know that there are lots of detractors of aramid/kevlar strings, and I am one of them. However, IMO the combination with the C10 Pro is a match made in heaven as it brings out the best of its buttery feel and control.

Only drawback is that the strings move around quite a fair bit.

 

[Saxten]

I agree with Mojo, I've used a lot of different strings at different tensions, and none of them played absolutly horrible. A very forgiving and versatile frame!!

 

[iscottius]

iscottius to answer your questions, yes Volkls were once made in Germany, and I believe the specs have changed over time. The older graphic frames <the ones without the hologram sticker> played lighter and stiffer <to me>.

NBMJ,
Thanks, one of the three that I have does not have a hologram and was made in Germany, I like it but it does not match the other 2, so I can either sell it, or match it to the other two. Very nice playing racquet

iscottius

 

[iscottius]

I'm puzzled that you have a C10 or C10 variant frame marked 'made in Germany'.

The earliest version of the C10 I know of is the old Comp Series 10, a mostly black frame with light yellow fishnet accenting and a 93" head (before there were 98" heads). The Comp Series line was clearly and permanently marked 'designed in Germany' on the side of the throat, and the Comp Series dates back to the mid-90s. The idea that at any later stage, Volkl would have returned production to Germany is highly unlikely.

My best guess is that Volkl ceased German production around '93 or '94, not too long before the Comp Series was introduced, but before nonetheless.

Volkl kept the fishnet graphic for the next version of the 10, called the 'Classic 10 Pro'. Those words actually appear on the side of the frame. The graphic of the 'Classic 10' is alot louder and with more of a graffiti influence than the Comp 10. The next and current version is the 'C10 Pro', which dates back to about '98 and seems to borrow its graphic from a bombed number 4 train circa 1981 (that's an NYC reference, yo).

This is a classic 10 pro 98 made in Germany, don't know the year. It is yellow & black with Fishnet, but the 'Classic 10 pro' on the side is smaller and different. It is also lighter than the 1998 version C10 Pro's that are still for sale currently.

 

[iscottius]

As far as string set up is concerned, I am happy with Syn Gut at 57-58 16 guage, good pop crisp feel, soft frame---works for me

 

[wlinchon]

Concerning the Comp Series C10 93, Designed in Germany. I saw one in all red, basically. Would you know where that was made? Do the C10s differ in quality and playability between where they were made?