If Djokovic reaches 17 slam wins...

[Jonas78]

Zverev ane Kyrgios just *f* ed up djoker last year

So did Istomin. The Djoker pre W16 would easily beat Kyrgios and Zverev.

 

[Jonas78]

Your post was something 70% true

The decline came earlier and faster than i thougth. And then he got injured... unfortunately... And Roger got 3 more..

 

[Sum Buddy Ells]

What are your thoughts?

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

So did Istomin. The Djoker pre W16 would easily beat Kyrgios and Zverev.

Dunno about Kyrgios. There is a reason why he, Ivo and Roddick lead the h2h against Novak...

 

[merlinpinpin]

They have effectively cancelled each other out, meaning they have not dominated their era. Players in the past dominated their era convincingly but it's hard to make a case for these two. Sure they would have each won 17 but they let the other win 17 too. There is no standout. Laver was a standout. Borg was a standout. But these two are not. I think it's very lateral thinking and interesting to discuss.

So, at 17 apiece, Federer and Djokovic would have cancelled out each other and that would have meant neither was a standout, although Laver *was* a standout by winning *less* big titles than Rosewall? Got it. So, in a sense, Fed pulling ahead means that Djokovic now is a standout, is that it? The guy will be so happy to learn that, the more Fed wins, the more he, Novak, stands out.

 

[imonfire]

If Djokovic reaches 17 slams...


If he...


All I can say is that I won't have been watching tennis a lot most likely, cause that implies one heck of a gap in generations (unless Djokovic finds the fabled fountain of youth)!

Been watching tennis much lately?

 

[SpinToWin]

Been watching tennis much lately?

Not really. Watched some of the younger players, but the game has been pretty stagnant.

 

[Jonas78]

Dunno about Kyrgios. There is a reason why he, Ivo and Roddick lead the h2h against Novak...

If most of those matches were played between 2011 and W16 i can assure you that Djokovic would have the H2H vs all three...

 

[Deleted member 742196]

How come when we have these campfire conversations its never h2h2h?

W-L-L for example; including TW moral victories, Federer is: 1082-3-5.

???

 

[FHtennisman]

How come when we have these campfire conversations its never h2h2h?

W-L-L for example; including TW moral victories, Federer is: 1082-3-5.

???

No that's incorrect, allocation of all other player's moral victories go to Rafa.

 

[vex]

Dunno about Kyrgios. There is a reason why he, Ivo and Roddick lead the h2h against Novak...

Lol k. Kyrgios is garbage

NK and Ivo can serbot their way to a winner over ANYONE if they're on fire. But their average level is so flawed they didn't even make it to the Djokovic matches where he'd have spanked them. He's always been there, they only face him when their serve is on fire cause 99% of the time they got dumped in an early round

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Lol k. Kyrgios is garbage

He's so garbage that Novak could only reach to one break point in two matches...

 

[vex]

He's so garbage that Novak could only reach to one break point in two matches...

He's so garbage he's only managed to GET TO a Novak match by catching fire twice. Usually he watches from the bleachers after a R1-2 exit

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

He's so garbage he's only managed to GET TO a Novak match by catching fire twice. Usually he watches from the bleachers after a R1-2 exit

Novak was very lucky with that...

 

[vex]

Novak was very lucky with that...

What did NK being hot garbage have anything to do with Novak? You're seriously talking bout a dude who didn't get out of the second round of a slam in 2017 being some huge threat to an ATG

 

[Deleted member 742196]

No that's incorrect, allocation of all other player's moral victories go to Rafa.

1933-1-0 ??

 

[FHtennisman]

1933-1-0 ??

That looks more like it.