If Federer Can't Finish Year Number One

McEnroeisanartist

Hall of Fame
If Federer Can't Finish the Year Ranked Number 1, do you think he will put up a big fight to finish the year number two ahead of Nadal.

Federer, of course, has the record for most consecutive years ranked in the top 2 - with 8 years. If Nadal finishes the year ranked in the top 2, he will also have eight consecutive years.
 

veritech

Hall of Fame
If Federer Can't Finish the Year Ranked Number 1, do you think he will put up a big fight to finish the year number two ahead of Nadal.

Federer, of course, has the record for most consecutive years ranked in the top 2 - with 8 years. If Nadal finishes the year ranked in the top 2, he will also have eight consecutive years.

is this true?
 

6-1 6-3 6-0

Banned
Federer should be more concerned about not meeting Nadal at the US Open. Just unthinkable that the hard-court GOAT would be 0-3 against Rafael "The Impossible" Nadal at HC slams. :shock:
 

OldFedIsOld

Professional
Federer should be more concerned about not meeting Nadal at the US Open. Just unthinkable that the hard-court GOAT would be 0-3 against Rafael "The Impossible" Nadal at HC slams. :shock:

Never played each other at the US Open, if he took Djokovic 2011 to 5 sets he can definitely take Nadal in 4 maybe even 5.
 

6-1 6-3 6-0

Banned
Never played each other at the US Open, if he took Djokovic 2011 to 5 sets he can definitely take Nadal in 4 maybe even 5.

Federer currently trails Nadal 10-18 in the H2H, and 2-8 in slams (having never beaten him in over 5 years). And it doesn't work like that, Federer beat Djokovic in 4 sets at the French Open (in 2011), and Nadal swept him aside in the final to a record-equalling 6 French Open titles (tying Bjorn Borg at the time). :D
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Federer should be more concerned about not meeting Nadal at the US Open. Just unthinkable that the hard-court GOAT would be 0-3 against Rafael "The Impossible" Nadal at HC slams. :shock:

so what? Federer won the Us Open for the first time 8 years ago, Nadal 2 years ago. It's easy to beat people when you play them in your prime and not theirs.

Btw, what is the significance of the changing numbers in your avatar? I think it was 3 then 8, now 10?
 

ibbi

G.O.A.T.
Federer currently trails Nadal 10-18 in the H2H, and 2-8 in slams (having never beaten him in over 5 years). And it doesn't work like that, Federer beat Djokovic in 4 sets at the French Open (in 2011), and Nadal swept him aside in the final to a record-equalling 6 French Open titles (tying Bjorn Borg at the time). :D
they've never met at the US Open though, and as it is the quickest of the 4 slams, and quickness. Favours Roger, I'd say his best chance to beat him is there in New York.
 

merlinpinpin

Hall of Fame
so what? Federer won the Us Open for the first time 8 years ago, Nadal 2 years ago. It's easy to beat people when you play them in your prime and not theirs.

Btw, what is the significance of the changing numbers in your avatar? I think it was 3 then 8, now 10?

Probably the next expected Nadal draught as far as tournament wins is concerned... ;)
 

TeflonTom

Banned
of course he will want to stay number 2. with such a strong top 3, top 2 seeding at slams is a big advantage

uso is definitely fed's best chance to beat nadal. but i suspect he would still prefer not to meet him
 

Clarky21

Banned
Probably the next expected Nadal draught as far as tournament wins is concerned... ;)



Kind of like the more than 2 1/2 year long slam title drought Fed had,huh? :wink:


Anyway,I still think Cvac will finish the year at #1 with Fed at #2. Fed has a lot of points to defend in the fall while Cvac can gain lots of points. We will just have to wait and see what happens.
 

cknobman

Legend
I think Roger won his 7th Wimbledon, 17th GS title, reclaimed the #1 and will take the all time weeks @ #1 record.

After all that I think that Roger likely does not give a dang about whether he will finish higher than Rafa @ EOY rankings.
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
Kind of like the more than 2 1/2 year long slam title drought Fed had,huh? :wink:


Anyway,I still think Cvac will finish the year at #1 with Fed at #2. Fed has a lot of points to defend in the fall while Cvac can gain lots of points. We will just have to wait and see what happens.

from now to the end of the year Djokovic is actually defending more points than Federer.

He's defending a slam win, a masters win and a masters final.

Fed is defending a masters, the WTF and a 500. Which is very close to what Djokovic is defending but still less, but basically it doesn't really matter what they are defending, it's about who does better (since they are both defending around 4000 points)

Federer gain gain big at Canada, Cinci and at the US Open should he win or make the final and Djokovic doesn't. He can also gain at Shanghai. Djokovic can only gain points in Paris, shanghai (but fed can too) and the WTF. Basel is not gonna gain him that much more.
 
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tennis_pro

Bionic Poster
Federer currently trails Nadal 10-18 in the H2H, and 2-8 in slams (having never beaten him in over 5 years). And it doesn't work like that, Federer beat Djokovic in 4 sets at the French Open (in 2011), and Nadal swept him aside in the final to a record-equalling 6 French Open titles (tying Bjorn Borg at the time). :D

Is there no way to get rid of this troll?
 

chatt_town

Hall of Fame
That's a good question. I think that is something to remain to be seen. :) I think he's going to probably after this year fall quickly to 5 or 6 and just try to win 2 or 3 more majors. There is no need after he has broken the record to break his body down trying to stay number 1 when he can easily win 2 or 3 more majors if he stays healthy.


If Federer Can't Finish the Year Ranked Number 1, do you think he will put up a big fight to finish the year number two ahead of Nadal.

Federer, of course, has the record for most consecutive years ranked in the top 2 - with 8 years. If Nadal finishes the year ranked in the top 2, he will also have eight consecutive years.
 

sunof tennis

Professional
Federer should be more concerned about not meeting Nadal at the US Open. Just unthinkable that the hard-court GOAT would be 0-3 against Rafael "The Impossible" Nadal at HC slams. :shock:

You are so predictible. Take a post that was clearly about Federer and drag Nadal into it. Me thinks you are grasping at straws and are obessed with Rafa...
 

hedera

Rookie
Now that Roger has taken the number one ranking, his next goal is to be YE1 surely. I don't think he'll stop now.
Let's say Nole loses in the SF in Canada and USO, which isn't far fetched at all imo, that alone will cost him 1920 points. He can't gain much in Basel, he can gain points in Paris, though. Roger can afford himself the luxury of losing a match in the RR at the WTF and still win the event and lose only 200 points if I'm not mistaken.
It's pretty much even but Roger has a better chance.
 

purge

Hall of Fame
it is as delpo has put it last year. you want to play well and win matches/titles. and if you do the ranking just comes with it.

fed will not go into any match thinking "oh if i win now ill probably finish as #2 but if i lose nadal may overtake me and ill drop to #3"
he goes in thinking "i want to win this match, i want to win this title"

the only time the ranking matters to him directly is when its about the #1. hes made that clear many times before
 

Wuppy

Professional
Roger once said to me, "I take it one match at a time, mother*******, one match at a time."
 

frinton

Professional
I think Fed's objective now is to enjoy what he achieved not only the last Sunday, but since loosing to Djok at the US Open last year, relax a bit and the start preparing for the next things to come. His planning is about 2 years ahead and his goals are set a long way in advance.
I am sure one of his goals is now to preserve the ranking, or at least the highest possible ranking, but that will be a consequence of his other goals: Olympics, US Open, defending his indoor titles.
 
Federer should be more concerned about not meeting Nadal at the US Open. Just unthinkable that the hard-court GOAT would be 0-3 against Rafael "The Impossible" Nadal at HC slams. :shock:

In fact Rafael "the S***" nadal should be worried to face federer at the us open..fed's 2 losses on hc's came at the aussie and not at the us open..aus open is just a joke with such a high bounce and slow conditions..us open is faster and the bounce will be lesser compared to AO..****** will be no match to even a 30 yr old fed at the USO :lol:
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
Fed's schedule is fixed. His main aim is to win titles and grand slams. He won't play a bunch of tournaments just to finish No. 1

I think that No.1 will be decided by the tournaments of Canada, Cincinnati, Shanghai, Paris and London. Though they have a load of points they don't get wholehearted effort from top players like the grand slams.
 
I hate when people tell players what to do, or even predict what they will do. But even I would understand if Federer after this season choose to wind down. However I do not see him as one playing halfheartedly on the tour. We'll have to see...
 

Evan77

Banned
Kind of like the more than 2 1/2 year long slam title drought Fed had,huh? :wink:


Anyway,I still think Cvac will finish the year at #1 with Fed at #2. Fed has a lot of points to defend in the fall while Cvac can gain lots of points. We will just have to wait and see what happens.
kinda agree with you here, altough many guys here underestimate Nadal. just because he lost to Rosol at W doesn't mean he won't bounce back.

Every time when a player wins a major, everyone is going ballistic (in this case Fed fans).

We all speculate here, so I'll do the same. I have a feeling that Djokovic will end up as year #1, Nadal as #2 and Roger as #3 (Rog fans please don't crucify me :)) ...
 

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
kinda agree with you here, altough many guys here underestimate Nadal. just because he lost to Rosol at W doesn't mean he won't bounce back.

Every time when a player wins a major, everyone is going ballistic (in this case Fed fans).

We all speculate here, so I'll do the same. I have a feeling that Djokovic will end up as year #1, Nadal as #2 and Roger as #3 (Rog fans please don't crucify me :)) ...

I dunno, historically this is the part of the year where nadaldoesnt do too well, especially after USO. Of course he is more rested this year going into the summer hc season, and I don't think the olympics would be too physically taxing.

I think there will be two races

One between fed and djoker for number 1, and one between murray and rafa for number 3

Either way, it will be an interesting summer
 

Evan77

Banned
I dunno, historically this is the part of the year where nadaldoesnt do too well, especially after USO. Of course he is more rested this year going into the summer hc season, and I don't think the olympics would be too physically taxing.

I think there will be two races

One between fed and djoker for number 1, and one between murray and rafa for number 3

Either way, it will be an interesting summer
my friend, tennis is so fickle ... Nadal won many masters (off clay) ... he is more than capable of winning IW or Miami ... the thing is that too many guys here have a very short memory. Yes, Djoko beat him last year there but it was close and it could have gone either way. I'm still puzzled how he managed to defeat Novak at the USO 2010 (serving like being possessed, and that serve simply disappeared), but I won't go there right now.
 

Bruce39

Banned
my friend, tennis is so fickle ... Nadal won many masters (off clay) ... he is more than capable of winning IW or Miami ... the thing is that too many guys here have a very short memory. Yes, Djoko beat him last year there but it was close and it could have gone either way. I'm still puzzled how he managed to defeat Novak at the USO 2010 (serving like being possessed, and that serve simply disappeared), but I won't go there right now.

You're not suggesting Tropicana are you? :shock:
 
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