If Nadal and/or Djokovic break Federer’s GS record does the record become meaningless?

[mike danny]

Laver, yes. Anyone else? If not, that would make a grand total of two tennis champions winning more than Federer around that age. As I said, it is misleading to say Roger couldn't win much at 26-31 years old. It was only not much by his insane standards.

In 2007-2012, Fed won more slams than Djokovic did, yet not a word about this.

 

[NeutralFan]

I'm not going to call out everyone on this forum, that's impossible. You replied to my post and I replied back. Calling you names? If the shoe fits.

Anyway, this discussion is turning into an unpleasant experience for both of us so better end it here.

Well, ofcourse you won't call it because you have problem with people telling Nadal haters how they were wrong and how Nadal made them shut up but you never had problem when Nadal fans and Nadal has been ridiculed at the mere suggestion of making slam record. First certain fan base said it won't happen, now when it happened they make ridiculous hypotheticals to bring Djokodal down. Also, i am not gloating , i am just pointing out how wrong some haters were . now, I'll give it a rest and yes GOAT can't exist, we can only ascertain best player of this generation and Djokovic is most likely to end up being best player of this era with Nadal having small chance and Fed having no chance. Peace !

 

[mike danny]

He was not old, no. But 2008 was the year he started visibly struggling with his form throughout the season, which was in start contrast to the 4 previous years. If you want to argue his form didn't drop and he started losing to players he routinely beat in the past because of his main rivals, be my guest.

In 2009 Federer lost the AO final to Nadal in an tough 5-setter, I don't see it as damning loss because Nadal playes one of his best AO matches.

2010 again some unusual Slam results across the board. Again, the drop in form that had little to do with playing Djokodal.

2011 was a very good prime year. That's where the amazing rival competition came in to spoil the results. Still Federer did stop Djokovic who entered the Punisher mode and then was a point away from stopping him two times. Quite a feat as a Rafa fan would know.

2012 was a very solid year, more positives from that than negatives. Really not much to explain because Federer had great results, clear second only to Djokovic who he beat for the Wimbledon title. The loss to Nadal at the AO was not egrigious at all. Roger was playing well enough, Nadal was simply better. It happens to the best of them.

2013 doesn't need any comments.

I'm glad for you, now that you get to boast you fave's Slam record. It is a great feeling. But think twice before you decide to be a hypocrite and make BS claims about Federer, because on this forum there are plenty of posters to call you out, and that's probably not a great feeling.

2012 AO was peak Nadal against a slightly post prime Fed on the slowest ever HC. How was Fed supposed to win that match when even peak Djokovic barely did it?

 

[Mustard]

2012 AO was peak Nadal against a slightly post prime Fed on the slowest ever HC. How was Fed supposed to win that match when even peak Djokovic barely did it?

Federer had not lost an official match since the 2011 US Open. He was the form man in that sense.

 

[mike danny]

Federer had not lost an official match since the 2011 US Open. He was the form man in that sense.

Most of those wins were indoors, a completely different setting to the slow HC of the 2012 AO.

Federer was not supposed to win that match just because it was outside of clay. At that point, age and surface favored Nadal massively. Federer would have needed his peak athleticism to compete with Nadal in that match.

 

[Deleted member 779124]

No if Nadal reaches 22 I will rank him ahead of any player I have seen play

I think even with the 1 less slam Federer and Djokovic are a little bit greater as of now.

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

It already was.

 

[The Fedfather]

In 2007-2012, Fed won more slams than Djokovic did, yet not a word about this.

Yep, the few relatively poor stats Federer has get brought up and mulled over incessantly by some posters, without any context beyond "he was not good enough". Anything else is ignored and written off as excuses. But try to apply the same line of thinking to Djokodal and those posters will switch up fast.

I'm not saying Federer fans don't have the same tendency but it honestly seems like Roger gets the short end of the stick most often.

 

[MichaelNadal]

No if Nadal reaches 22 I will rank him ahead of any player I have seen play

I think even with the 1 less slam Federer and Djokovic are a little bit greater as of now.

Slay

 

[mike danny]

No if Nadal reaches 22 I will rank him ahead of any player I have seen play

I think even with the 1 less slam Federer and Djokovic are a little bit greater as of now.

To me Nadal is already the greatest at 21.

 

[Deleted member 779124]

To me Nadal is already the greatest at 21.

I think Nadal needs one more to pass Fed/Novak but I can see why people would say 21 is enough.