TennisCoachFLA
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The comedy payoff of all this is a guy living in a trailer telling us that "college is a waste of time" and "if you work hard your dreams will come to pass".
Is 14 Year old Deja ready for the US Open Wild Card?
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Number1Coach
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The kid who won the 16's has a losing record to DB no need to duck had to nurse a broken hand.
TennisCoachFLA
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Why lie? First you lie about his age, he turned 15 in April, not in December.
Now more lies. We know he was not "nursing a broken hand", we know he played a low level kid in the first round of a men's open the same date, then lost in the 2nd round. You pulled out of the Easter Bowl which was played from April 10-17th....and played the men's open on the 13th-14th. SAME DATE.
http://tennislink.usta.com/Tournaments/Draws/EventDraw.aspx?T=99852&E=1
And he has not played Gage Brymer at any time in the last year.
http://www.tennisrecruiting.net/player/activity.asp?id=245331
Boys change fast at this age, who cares if he played him years ago. He could not beat Gage now and that is what matters.
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Number1Coach
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So.Cal and FL. 2 toughest sections and within 6 months he's knocking on the door of No. 1 in Ca, not bad, 12 spots to go..
Still has a winning record over him and in your book even if it was at Eddie Hurr 3 yrs ago it counts. Boys change fast at this age, who cares if he played him years ago.
TennisCoachFLA
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What does that have to do with why you lied about the broken hand and pulled out against the top kids his age? Who cares if he beat Gage 3 years ago?
Knocking on what door in So Cal??? He couldn't touch any of the top 5 boys. Let alone when you talk national and ITF. Everyone knows the top 5-6 boys are light years away from the rest when talking sectional rankings.
http://tennislink.usta.com/tournaments/rankings/rankinglists.aspx?id=888862
You are the one saying he should skip college and go for the pros. And you are worried about So Cal 18s rankings? Thats light years in level away from where he would have to be by this age to even consider the pros. Giron is 10 times the player and even he is going to UCLA.
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PhilAnderson
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Comedy at it's finest!
So which hand is broken?
I heard he also has a broken leg and is hopping around the court beating people.
It seems like every time he plays he has some sort of injury. Have you guys thought of putting a helmet on his head and cover his body with foam?
Or maybe you guys should do your training in a bouncy castle? Just make sure only to let him in there so he doesn't break his hand hitting part of you.
Oh wait better idea! Maybe you should take him out of tennis (Too physical) and put him into a game that requires to use your brain and not your body?
Could you imagine this guy in the pros (I know laughable)?
"So why did your son lose today coach?"
"Well you see he had open heart surgery this morning and we thought what the hell, he can play through the pain"
Complete joke. Hopefully he gets into a good college (I know overrated!) and ditches the father like the daughter did.
So which hand is broken?
I heard he also has a broken leg and is hopping around the court beating people.
It seems like every time he plays he has some sort of injury. Have you guys thought of putting a helmet on his head and cover his body with foam?
Or maybe you guys should do your training in a bouncy castle? Just make sure only to let him in there so he doesn't break his hand hitting part of you.
Oh wait better idea! Maybe you should take him out of tennis (Too physical) and put him into a game that requires to use your brain and not your body?
Could you imagine this guy in the pros (I know laughable)?
"So why did your son lose today coach?"
"Well you see he had open heart surgery this morning and we thought what the hell, he can play through the pain"
Complete joke. Hopefully he gets into a good college (I know overrated!) and ditches the father like the daughter did.
Number1Coach
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Philanderson I will forgive you for being stupid but its common on here .....he won the tournamnet but that would take a college education to be able to read tournament results, anyways after some idiot from usc law school does a bypass I will let you know the results. Tell your wife the mothers day gift was my pleasure.
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TennisCoachFLA
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I think folks are just getting a kick out of your games. I am confused about why you think you need to play them. The kid is a solid player, just let him play the top 16s, get to the top of the national rankings, then the 18s, get to the top of the national rankings.
If the results scream pros, go for it. If they say play college first, do that.
You are making this bizarre when it does not have to be. Play the top kids his age, let his body mature, and see where he realistically stands at age 18. No need for the pullout of a top tournament with a 'broken hand', play a men's open the same date, then play juniors vs the 100th-400th ranked 18s.
Aren't you used to it by now? He doesn't know how to tell the the truth. Stories are told in BB version only. No more, no less.
TennisCoachFLA
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I just hope the kid keeps his college options open, even if it means keeping that quiet around dad.
PhilAnderson
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Uh oh I hit a nerve.
Sorry old timer I'm not married, so I don't know whos wife you gave a present too. Please try again.
Who cares about his last tournament? You know we're all talking about pulling out of the Easter Bowl with a "broken hand" and then play in a Mens Open.
So which part of his hand did he break? It must still be pretty tender eh?
Sorry old timer I'm not married, so I don't know whos wife you gave a present too. Please try again.
Who cares about his last tournament? You know we're all talking about pulling out of the Easter Bowl with a "broken hand" and then play in a Mens Open.
So which part of his hand did he break? It must still be pretty tender eh?
Number1Coach
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His dad calls all the shots ....... and points out to him how all of us guys that have college educations hang out on TW forum and argue over who the next great player is and if they are not from the inner-city the will have no chance.
Bash and Crash
Semi-Pro
Man, I love this thread. But, I see so many parents do similar things around here. The best kids should play the best kids as often as possible sectional, national, international....
Funny.... but am I the only one to remember that quite some time ago "the dad" saying he let the kid call all of the shots?
Just another chapter in the BB stories.TennisCoachFLA
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Funny.... but am I the only one to remember that quite some time ago "the dad" saying he let the kid call all of the shots?
You keep him honest, or at least call him on the nonsense. You caught the age thing and you caught the men's open thing. And now you remember him saying over and over "the boy drives the train, I just go along for the ride"...now its "the dad calls all the shots".
Lets hope BB is just having fun with us. I expect to see the boy playing tennis at a nice school some day.
One would hope so, for the kids sake!
See there, you have proven that Number1Coach really is the massage therapist. Brad would never have said that the dad calls all the shots. Only a confused outside observer who is there part time would say that.
Big Tennis Fan
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People here are hard on the Young ones you shouldnt hate on none of them for trying unless its taking away from your own dream or your students
Richard Williams Was the biggest Hyper of all and yall did the same thing
The hype got them trained that is what most of the parents do the cant afford the same training as most of you I see potenial in all of them Emira
Looks good and the Girl can serve lefty or righty she hasnt played Jr and you still find some negetive Deja Wants to win and you need that desire to even suit up she need work but its work in the progress and those Nor Cal Girls are the Best Pushers in Tennis Like Ellen Tsey who Beat Asia Mohammand in Straight Sets And Myiesha Looks like their Plan worked She will Be training At ITUSA With Rafa De fonte Mora With David Ferrer and Meghann Shaughnesy
I looked at her website Looked like she had nothing to hide she was asking for help I Donated $30 What about you Guys did you help no!! and she looked just like Venus in the Face and she hits a big Ball Alexus I Thing has Decent strokes and being Coached by Martina Navratilova and you all steal dont believe Children or our Future unless someone is paying you to coach them
the Only thing wrong with Alexus is her grunt please stop that Please Support American tennis Before its Gone
Big Tennis Fan
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People here are hard on the Young ones you shouldnt hate on none of them for trying unless its taking away from your own dream or your students
Richard Williams Was the biggest Hyper of all and yall did the same thing
The hype got them trained that is what most of the parents do the cant afford the same training as most of you I see potenial in all of them Emira
Looks good and the Girl can serve lefty or righty she hasnt played Jr and you still find some negetive Deja Wants to win and you need that desire to even suit up she need work but its work in the progress and those Nor Cal Girls are the Best Pushers in Tennis Like Ellen Tsey who Beat Asia Mohammand in Straight Sets And Myiesha Looks like their Plan worked She will Be training At ITUSA With Rafa De fonte Mora With David Ferrer and Meghann Shaughnesy
I looked at her website Looked like she had nothing to hide she was asking for help I Donated $30 What about you Guys did you help no!! and she looked just like Venus in the Face and she hits a big Ball Alexus I Thing has Decent strokes and being Coached by Martina Navratilova and you all steal dont believe Children or our Future unless someone is paying you to coach them
the Only thing wrong with Alexus is her grunt please stop that Please Support American tennis Before its Gone
TennisCoachFLA
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We all support American tennis to the fullest....Brooke Austin, Sloane Stephens, Sachia Vickery, Vicky Duval, etc. Many coaches like myself volunteer time to kids who can't afford lessons and then the talented ones we recommend to the academies for further help.
What we do not support is the website hypers who do not allow the kid to compete so no one knows what they have.
Richard Williams.....please do not mention him with these hypers....the Williams sisters were a combined 102-3 in juniors BEFORE Richard pulled them out of competition. So sponsors had a very clear idea of what his girls could do.
All the girls you mentioned need to compete, yes, even against "pushers"....then if warranted, we will fully support them.
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Funny how a new poster pops in here on these threads from nowhere with something to say. Brad?
TennisCoachFLA
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The run on sentences and grammar seem 'interestingly familiar'.
Brad,
I am glad to see DB took down the Anaheim title - that's a good achievement for any 15 years old. Like I said over and over again, if DB keeps improving his tennis, and more importantly, shows that he can win and win at a high level, he will be ready for the "show". You know I am rooting for you boy to make it and I can't wait to see him play again to see his development/improvement.
BTW - take it easy on this tennis forum Brad - you know what I mean
Number1Coach
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TCF your research goes unchallenged could you give how many of the 102 wins were at the top national and ITF level ?
Now if I do the math right the DB kid in the 12's was 40-3 x 2 people equal 80-6 or x 3 of him would equal 120 -9 .....verses the williams 102-3 or 120-9 if DB went after all the tournaments ......... so where is the % difference here ?
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Number1Coach
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Brad,
I am glad to see DB took down the Anaheim title - that's a good achievement for any 15 years old. Like I said over and over again, if DB keeps improving his tennis, and more importantly, shows that he can win and win at a high level, he will be ready for the "show". You know I am rooting for you boy to make it and I can't wait to see him play again to see his development/improvement.
BTW - take it easy on this tennis forum Brad - you know what I mean
Who do you think you are calling me Brad ? Manny the Pacman ? Back off or you will look like Mosley when I get done .
Number1Coach
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The dad and I both say college is "Overrated" now what school did you go to that translates that into Losers ? I can see why his dad says a college education can be a waiste of time look what you have come up with .....overrated. equals loser
The dad and I both say college is "Overrated" now what school did you go to that translates that into Losers ? I can see why his dad says a college education can be a waiste of time look what you have come up with .....overrated. equals loser
TennisCoachFLA
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Lets say for giggles that your boy and the Williams sisters were 100% equal in the 12s. Fantastic. Now lets continue the comparison.
The difference lies in that every single coach that saw them at age 12,13,14,15 was blown away. Whether knocking the stuffing out of Roddick and the very top boys in practice matches, hitting against pros, they jumped off the charts. It was so evident of their talents compared to other girls that major sponsors actually tossed lots of money at them.
Your boy has no such effect. He goes against decent but not spectacular kids, wins a few, loses his share. He enters men's open and beats a high school average player in the 1st round, loses in the 2nd. He has zero wins against any top 5 16 or 18s in the past 3 years.
The Williams sisters screamed 'tennis freaks', your boy does not.
No one is saying he may not develop some day. Who knows. But the gamble of the Williams sisters was backed up by consistent evidence year after year. You have zero evidence your boy has anything remarkable.
Thus you give him time, keep college front and center, and see what happens.
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Number1Coach
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Great point now do me one favor tell me how many of those. Williams wins were at top national or ITF level ?
TennisCoachFLA
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At age 12? None. I already said lets assume your boy and the Williams sisters had equal records at age 12.
Now your turn.....explain the talents your boys has such as beating the very top 18s in a practice match. Name the major sponsors throwing $400,000 contracts at him?
Now tell me which top coaches and sponsors are simply blown away by him like they were the Williams sisters? Not discounted clothes, I am talking Reebok throwing massive amounts of money at him.
Since college is not an option seems like you guys should have been signing huge contracts left and right like the Williams girls did at age 15. That stuff is public so lets hear all about them.
PhilAnderson
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Number1Coach, what College did you go to?
Maybe I'm just remember wrong but didn't this guy go to College?
I'm having a hard time understanding how this guy can call College overrated when it seems like he has never been to one.
Maybe I'm just remember wrong but didn't this guy go to College?
I'm having a hard time understanding how this guy can call College overrated when it seems like he has never been to one.
Wrongo, you just proved that you don't get all of those screen names are actually the same individual. He's a confused insider who has trouble keeping stories straight..
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Funny..... close, it crossed my mind, not quite enough bad grammar or ,,,, or lololololol
Mr. Anderson... the problem here is that Number1Coach if you look far back enough, actually gives a name for himself and says he is a massage therapist. Rest assured that the writer behind the screen name Number1Coach DID NOT go to college, I would bet they didn't even graduate high school.
Wrongo, you just proved that you don't get all of those screen names are actually the same individual. He's a confused insider who has trouble keeping stories straight..
Actually, you just proved that you don't recognize sarcasm.
Tennishacker
Professional
Dad of DB, IMO, you need to focus on $$$.
And there it is... round and round...
Bash and Crash
Semi-Pro
Nice strokes on that girl, is she playing national tournies? From your previous post Ellen Tsay is not really a pusher, top 600 in the world, #3 on TRN and a full ride to Stanford I think, pretty impressive. Wish I had a daughter like that.
TennisCoachFLA
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Recognition for 'talent' in tennis comes in the form of trophies, sponsorships, scholarships, etc. when you win a major tournament. It does not come from posting a video of someone hitting a ball on You Tube.
Bash and Crash
Semi-Pro
It's always amazing what tourney pressure and high caliber players can do to a persons game.
TennisCoachFLA
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True. This dad is trying to get 'recognition'? Girls like Gaby Andrews and Brooke Austin get recognition because they competed. And so will Emira, when she successfully competes she will get recognition. None of us heard about a 17 year old Russian girl named Sharapova, she got plenty of recognition when she started winning on the court.
Pro_Tour_630
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just wanted a heads up on Tom's latest, is advocating the next american champion will be trained using http://tpatennis.net/developing-the-next-american-tennis-champion/
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Bash and Crash
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interesting, and he has that video on there of the eight year olds, but what is funny the next vid is of a 4yr old with 26" racket hitting regular balls I think.
Pro_Tour_630
Legend
what I find interesting, he has all these books articles etc similar to TCF views on drills and no competition until later, yet he is posting a video of U8 tournament in the UK
makes my head spin.
Bash and Crash
Semi-Pro
what I find interesting, he has all these books articles etc similar to TCF views on drills and no competition until later, yet he is posting a video of U8 tournament in the UK
same video that USTA used out here at a RTC event
TennisCoachFLA
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what I find interesting, he has all these books articles etc similar to TCF views on drills and no competition until later, yet he is posting a video of U8 tournament in the UK
Interesting, perhaps an equipment manufacturer sponsorship is involved? He says the same stuff every supporter says, including the standard "Justine Henin" mini tennis thing. As we have said, we have no clue if Henin played mini tennis for 3 years or jumped out within 2 weeks and was moved to regular balls. Huge difference.
Most of his points make no sense. All players work on volleys in practice, always have. The game has changed because of equipment, etc. McEnroe was a great volleyer...he didn't have Quickstart....nor did any other players of the serve and volley or the all court style back in the day.
The Roddick stuff also makes no sense. Macci grilled Roddick all over the court, he was exposed to volleys, etc. Roddick made the choice to rely on his serve. It had nothing to do with mini tennis or not.
The fact is that great all around players have and can be developed using regulation equipment. Its up to the coach and parent and players to do so. A player's style is the result of his training, not the specific equipment used. Nadal plays his style because of how he was trained, Serena same thing, Henin same thing. Its the training, not the system being mini tennis or regulation.
This myth that mini tennis will lead to better players is silly. If they are coached wrong, they will end up playing wrong, no matter what method you use in the early years.
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Thanks for another thread highjacking.
